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First, SWIM is an addict. His drug of choice is MORE. SWIM discovered this after his last bump with the authorities and is in love. 1g insufflated in bullet doses over a 15 day stretch was his first go with MDPV. First few days he had some panic, but no paranoia, and definitely verbose (which is tough with such a dry mouth). Daily and repeated dosing, the stuff now gives him a calm stimulation. When he wants to sleep, he sleeps. When he wants to eat, he eats. Doesn't seem to interfere with life the way his past substance use has, and he even performs better at his job, which requires much concentration and focus.
Looks like this one is going to be scheduled soon, so that sucks. SWIM may be a stupid addict, but he's smart enough to know that he shouldn't stock up in preparation as the authorities in his country will do some of the most unethical shit to make an example of him.
SWIM doesn't know the milligram amount, but could fit 4 separate doses inside the diameter of a smiley ---> She re-doses about 4-10 times a day...so that's 2.5 smileys worth per day.
The jury is still out on whether SWIM enjoys the chemical, but the side effects have already made themselves known in the form of shortness of breath, severe anxiety during the comedown and heart palpitations. Her run with it will probably be brief and end after she's managed to lose some weight.
SWIM knows the risks of eyeballing but doesn't have a scale. She has no reference as to what 5 or 10 mg. of MDPV would look like and can't find a picture anywhere online. She would find this very useful if anySWIY cares to direct her to one.
SWIM loves the stuff. SWIM has suffered from debilitating depression for nearly 30 years. He hasn't felt truly happy in at least 20 yrs - until he tried MDPV. That first night, he felt like he was 19 again. He was laughing and having a good time and telling stories, dancing, etc. He kinda always wished for a small coke habit - to shed those last unwanted pounds, but the price was not within his reach. MDPV took away the hunger and allowed him to lose 20 lbs far more inexpensively. SWIM is looking good and feeling fantastic.
SWIM had such a good experience from MDPV, that he wanted to share it with his friends, one of whom he knew had addiction problems. They each bought a packet, and SWIM demonstrated about how much to do and how often to re-dose and then they parted ways. SWIM's packet lasted him several days - but his friend was calling at 2-3 in the morning jonesing for more. He was up for the next 3 or 4 nights, chasing dragons, doing lines that were 3X as big as SWIM told him to take, sneaking bumps, real class-A addict stuff. When he missed work, SWIM took him aside and made his concerns known. They worked out an agreement to wean his friend off of the shit and SWIM took his friend at his word.
The next night, this friend accused SWIM of planting some kind of spy software on his computer through a 3rd party. He went over to his friend's house and pounded on the door. After several minutes of scuffling about inside, the friend answered the door, high as fuck. SWIM tried to get his friend to let him stay the night, to keep an eye on him, but his friend was not going to allow that to happen under any circumstances.
Long story short - SWIM can't hang around that friend anymore. SWIM told him not to contact him unless he was calling for help or to apologize. SWIM took the friend's picture down to the only store around that sells MDPV and slipped the guy some cash not to sell to the friend anymore.
SWIM advises not to try it, but if you do, stick to small bumps (about the size of a pea) about every 4-5 hours - and quit a few hours before bedtime, for Christ's sake! SWIM has found that 1-2mg of Klonopin and/or a few tokes of weed is very helpful for overcoming the paranoia/anxiety and to help SWIM come down and get some rest..
Hm. A friend's an addict, he likes anything that makes him feel better, improved, etc (almost every drug he's done, he's 'loved' even if just until the comedown.)
MDPV is no difference. After receiving a gram, he hurriedly sniffed what looked like a small sized bump off a key. Probably now known at around 30mg. Oops. Keeps going, keeps going.
Oh well, surprisingly he managed to get some sleep that night, the next day swearing off mdpv because of the comedown/crash.
Until noon that next day....Bump bump bump...
Again, slept a few hours, got up for a doctor's appointment, went...everything went well. Went home, laid on the couch in a miserable cranky mood until he had to goto work.
So, to defeat his 'mood' he couldn't get out of, a sniff was in order. That night at work was very nice. Empathic towards people, nice...personable. Not out of the ordinary for the guy, but people at work could see something was up and had to blame his dilated pupils on a medication.
Jeez, how many days is that... lost track. So this brings us to last night, Which, plain and simply sucked. Last dose was ~8pm, the gave up fighting the urge at 5:30am, called out of work promptly and decided to take a personal day. Sniffing MDPV. Ew. It's 4pm now. The friend doesn't necessarily feel bad, yet.... The friend is about to destroy his remaining supply, because he can see where this is going..in circles. He just says that he's glad he didn't try vaporizing this molecule after reading the crack-like compulsion to redose.
(The friend has a colorful substance abuse history, amphetamine, coke, benzos, alcohol... nothing has ever made him put his job at risk by taking a dose of a stimulant the night prior, knowing he probably wouldn't sleep, but didn't care...hmph. Setting himself up to use more, probably.)
MDPV is a great drug for focus and sociability, if you're able to curb the craving...which is on par or greater than the craving to redose with cocaine.
basically, my pet space camel did it and just didnt enjoy the effects. he said that even tho it was a good buzz and an empathy inducing drug, much like MDMA he thought, that the inability to become aroused or to sleep was not worth it. waste of his time he said. but then again, my space camel has been experimenting with psycho and disassociatives recently and much prefers them.
Guitar string found a brand of "salts" called Eight Ballz that is believed to contain MDPV (Source news article on internet so, not carved in stone fact yet I guess)
He's been reading about these things for months and wanted a stim without going fiend mode. He decided to take a cautious route and only attempt small quantities over time and space out usage in order to avoid the binge factor.
This approach proved greatly useful as he first had a mere 3mg sampling with little to no effect then 2 days later had 6mg. This actually worked fine.
String is sure he is missing the huge euphoria that others speak of, but is also sure that being happy with the slightest buzz from 6-20mg of this diluted source is far better than getting strung out and suffer the painful come down and loss of sleep.
Ofcourse Guitar string would like to go for more one day, but to this point has been pleased with keeping on the safe side and keeping it very infrequent. One wonders why they woke up at 3 AM for no reason this morning though
Mooblarian added 1 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...
can't edit but that was to read 6-10 mg....
Thanks for reading!
Last edited by Mooblarian; 07-05-2011 at 13:41.
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SWIM did this last year and won't be going near the stuff again. Two nights on it (widely separated) was plenty enough. horrible after affects, major paranoia during. Not fun, not worth the initial high and insane desire to redose. Does not play nice with booze.
Possibly. SWIM insufflated small bumps in both instances, but then redosed numerous times throughout to try and maintain the initial high to his detriment. Prior to the two nights a small control dosage was tried which was fine in moderation - the issue is that the high wears off so quickly and the compulsion to redose is so great that moderating is tricky. SWIM has tried methedrone, coke and amphetamines and did not find them anywhere near as compulsive for whatever reason.
Update: SWIM was forced to quit MDPV after becoming very, very sick during a recent bout of heavy use. The stuff had always upset her stomach, but she kept pushing until an ulcer developed. One night, she developed horrible stomach/back cramps, watery diarrhea and vomiting that lasted for 12+ hours. She debated going the ER all night but decided against it. The pain was unbearable. Could've been the omeprazole she'd been taking at the time, but it was enough to stop her daily use of MDPV dead in its tracks.
Moral: stop using MDPV if it causes bloating, acid reflux or other stomach issues. These could quickly become something far worse.