Reputation System

[baZING]

Thanks Kailey for the link, you're the best. Oh never again will I link to an external image site...

And yes, I think your point about encouraging creative writing (more sound) over SWIM (flimsy) is also very well taken. I think the reason people [...me] have/had problems with it is because, at least when I joined the site a while ago and it was still enforced, the self-incrimination rule was the hardest thing to get used to. That's obviously personal, but still. It was so strange having to constantly write in the third person at first. I mean, it's whatever, people should reread the rules every now and then and keep out for Announcements even if they were gone when the Announcement was first made, but old habits die hard and there's no harm in friendly reminders. I think linking to the original March 2011 Announcement is an even better idea.

[baZING]

So here's a question about giving rep for something: because of the flimsiness of SWIM, would anyone think it inappropriate to leave neutral (not negative) rep for someone to point out that if they would like to not use first person it is better to write creatively or talk about AFOAF? Or is that something to remind someone of in PMs?

[Mersann]

It says the following in the section:"What happens when I report a rating?"

If you have questions regarding rep, please post them in this thread. This will bring up a module where you can state why you are reporting your post.

I cannot make sense of "This will bring up a module where you can state why you are reporting your post." in the context of this paragraph whatsoever.

Also, I've been wondering about this, and I think it should be included in the Wiki, if that's the case -- Especially with newbie members who may not know their way around the forum yet, is it okay if a more experienced member reports a post that has received negative reputation, if this member thinks that the negative reputation is unjust?

[Alfa]

Originally Posted by mersann

I cannot make sense of "This will bring up a module where you can state why you are reporting your post." in the context of this paragraph whatsoever.

I have no clue either.

Originally Posted by mersann

Also, I've been wondering about this, and I think it should be included in the Wiki, if that's the case -- Especially with newbie members who may not know their way around the forum yet, is it okay if a more experienced member reports a post that has received negative reputation, if this member thinks that the negative reputation is unjust?

If you report a post then this does not give the moderator functionality to delete the rating. Such functionality and a feedback system is only present when you report a rating.
Supermoderators can go into the system and delete ratings. This is a hassle, but can be done.
So the most optimal approach is to ask the member to report the rating. Alternatively its possible to report the post with a good explanation, but we do not promote this.

[knightsmith]

I've only just found out what this reputation posting thing was, found a few of those on a post or two of mine.

[C.D.rose]

Originally Posted by Alfa

So the most optimal approach is to ask the member to report the rating.

Alfa, I hereby request that you report the rating you received for post #81 in this thread. ... Seriously though, I have come across a couple of positive reps these past months that, if I understand the rep rules correctly, shouldn't be valid. Another one is in post #46 in this thread. I'm not jealous of other members getting rep, but reps like those are actually a bad example for new members. If they see rep comments like that, they think they can give rep with similar comments which in turn will probably be deleted, causing confusion or frustration with the rep system.

My point is this: it may be a little tricky to make people report their own ratings if they are positive, so I do think there should be some way to report rep comments directly. I think that, in practice, this will probably only happen rather rarely, so there is no need to "institutionalize" the reporting of rep comments. Would it be possible to directly send a PM to a supermod - who, as Alfa said above, can delete reps - with a link to a possibly invalid rep?

I know this is really nitpicking, but having more or less clearly invalid reps stand will only increase the chance of other members using similar rep comments, and so on.

[Alfa]

Please mind that this discussion is an article discussion, about what should and what should not be in the article.

[C.D.rose]

Edit: Nevermind, I copied my initial post to the thread that discusses how to use the rep system.