Experiences - E-XTC: Please don't do this to yourself...

[I<3Salvia]

Okay swim figured he has a moral obligation to tell everyone about his and his friends experience with this stuff when he went to Ministry of Sound in London. Please read this even if you're going to do it anyway, that way at least if you don't listen to me you'll know what most likely is going to happen to you. Enjoy...


Drug: E-XTC
Dosage: 1 Pill (There are 2 in a package)

Swim's specs
Height: 6'
Weight: About 170

Swim's Friend
Height: 5' 10"
Weight: about 150

Length of experience: Almost 12 hours
Length of major after effects: Another 12 hours


Background
Alright, let's give a little background here so you can understand what was swims situation at the time. He was visiting both Scotland and London with some friends and was wanting to get into the club scene a bit which he did. However, by the time he would get to the clubs he was tired and in need of a boost, both mental and physical. He looked and looked, but couldn't find any x, or anything else that would help in that manner. Walking down the street he found this wonderful headshop with all kinds of knick knacks, and accessories, to his amazement he found a counter full of herbal "extacy". He had been interested in these for a while and figured why not, since he couldn't get a hold of anything more legit. He bought some doves, which turned out to be lame (will post for these as well) and when he went back to the place to complain he got these little bastards for free. He should have flushed them down the toilet.

11:30pm

Swim and his friend arrive at Ministry of Sound, a place that swim has wanted to see for a long time. He's a bit tired but is still excited he's about to hear some trance and experience what a big European club is like. He forces his way and gets in...

12:30am

Swim has been familiarizing himself with the club, since this place is huge. He's looking around for extacy (e-xtc was a reserve) but he can't find any. He drinks a couple glasses of orange juice but no alcohol and dances in the meantime.

1:30am

Swim gives up trying to find x. Him and his friend decide to try out what the e-xtc pills have in store for them. He opens up the packet, takes one, and gives his friend one then waits.

1:45am

Swim feels better actually. Him and his friend start breaking it down with everyone else. The night looks to have a lot more promise.

2:00am

Swim stops dancing. He feels a little weird but doesn't know why or what. He goes to the bathroom and tries to throw up but only compulsively dry heaves. The episode seems to end and he decides that some air would be good for the next little bit. He heads outside to the patio.

2:15

Swim gets some water and sits down by the plants. He's the only one feeling this way by this point and his friend is concerned. Swim thinks his bad feelings may end but then it just gets worse and worse. He can't drink even though he wants to, he doesn't want to sit because he's motion sick, and he doesn't want to stand because he feels weak. His hands are shaking and he figures it's time to leave the club. He asks his friend if he can get his jacket, and they leave.

2:30

Swim has been lingering outside the club for a few minutes. He figures getting away from all those people would help but it doesn't, he still feels horrible. It actually feels worse. It reminds him of his 2c trips but not in a good way. Things are moving for no reason, he keeps seeing blue lights, and things feel completely fucked up. He's not high AT ALL just severely fucked up. He throws up a few times, and tries to replenish his body with water but can't because this drug isn't allowing him to even take sips (it's doing something really fucked up to his stomach).

2:45

Swim figures that these pills may be something similar to the doves in the way that they didn't last long, and he may actually start feeling better in the next 30 minutes or so if he can make it that far. Things are still moving around, he's motion sick, and it only gets worse when he sits, so him and his friend are wandering around the streets while swim is trying to walk it off. He hangs around with his friend at this bus station while trying to recouperate.

2:50ish

Swims friend finally gets the effects of this shit and throws up. Things rapidly get worse for his friend, while swim is at least leveled for the moment. He tries to coach his friend through what to do. They both try to walk it off.

3:00

Swim and his friend are only about 4 blocks from the club and are so dissassociated they have no idea how to get back. They find this little store and swim figures that some bubbly juice or water will help his stomach. He gets some and finds that there's no effect, mainly because he can't even hardly force himself to drink the shit. They are very worried because they both feel completely defenseless at the moment, and are alone in the streets of a big city.

3:15

After wandering around for god knows how long, him and his friend level out enough to figure their way back to the hostel. They walk back 4-5 blocks to the club (which was extremely hard to figure out) and got in a cab.

3:45

They get dropped off close to the hostel since they didn't know the exact address to give to the driver. They walk back and even though they know where they're going everything looks completely fucked up. The streets look really tiny, and everything for the lack of better terminology looks different. With what looks like a sure fired miracle, they make it back to the hostel unscathed, on the surface anyway.

4:15

They make it up to the room and are still completely fucked. It's actually gotten worse because not only are they absolutely exausted, but the lack of movement has caused at least swim to feel like the effects are picking back up. This thing is peaking!!! It took damn near all the willpower swim had to pull himself up to that top bunk and lay down. However whichever way he was laying was completely uncomfortable, the room was spinning, and he kept seeing those blue fucking lights!!! The last 5 seconds of this song that he heard at the club was playing uncontrollably over and over again in his head also, it was nice for a minute but after over an hour of it he was done.

5:15

The swimmers can't go to sleep even though they want to. Swim has been afraid to go to sleep because he's afraid of bad dreams, but at this point anything sounds better than laying in this deep pit of hell he has put himself in. He curses the people that put this pill up for sale, and wonders why there are two of those fuckers in the package. It's like the person will be like, "oh yeah the first one was such a good idea, let me take the second one." He feels so weak, so sick, and so dehydrated, but can't drink, eat, sleep, or anything. He's worried that he's going to die, which at this point he wants to but he knows his girlfriend would not appreciate that so he decides to keep on...

6:15

After a couple of incredibly difficult and wearing trips to the bathroom (which was right next door) he figures he's still not coming down at all. It's actually seemed to get worse since his limbs are actually going numb. This is mainly his left arm and both of his feet, however it moves around. It stays only in his extremeties, and he wonders what this means.

Later...

Swim passes out at some point. He would like to be more specific but he has no memory of passing out. He doesn't remember hardly anything after the whole body going numb part actually. He doesn't know how he slept, but he does know how he wakes up...

2:30-3:30pm

Swim wakes up about 2:30 but doesn't accomplish much. He feels like absolute shit. Completely lethargic, headaches, and everytime he moves it gets worse. He still has an incredibly hard time drinking anything, however it is a lot easier than before. His friend has had about the same night and morning as he's had. A third friend is trying to get them to eat food but they figure that idea's is very improbable at best. Regardless she doesn't let up and comes back with a couple of sandwiches and some juice. The juice goes down better than the sandwiches, as the only way swim can even attempt to eat the thing is by taking small nibbles every 10-15 minutes. After about another hour he finally gets out of bed.

4:30

Swim feels better being outside and is enjoying being able to at least sip off a glass of water. Noise is awful, so he's glad he's able to sit in a quiet area.


8:00

Swim is forced to eat his first actual meal of the day (some thai food). It takes forever to go down, but fortunately it stays down. He smokes a ciggarette and a little weed, both help and hurt his situation so he decides to just not do anymore of either and try to relax.

Next Couple of Days

Swim feels SOOOO much better. He still feels the after effects however for at least the first day. It seems to have effected his speech and attention which continued for at least the next 2-3 days. Swim attributed this to the shock his body and brain were going through during the whole ordeal. He vows to never do herbal extacy again.

After Thoughts

Swim can't believe they actually sell this shit in stores. If it was just the one he had a bad experience with he would be more understanding, however he's had two different experiences with two different drugs, both verified by his friend who joined in. Responsible retailers would not carry things that make people horribly sick, and frankly ISO deserve whatever retalliation they get by both the government and their customers. Note: swim is an avid supporter for legalization of drugs, even hard drugs, but these are not drugs, these are, "go fuck yourself" in pill form.

Any questions or other experiences are welcome, plus if anyone knows what the real drug is in there that does all this horrid stuff please don't hesitate to tell everyone. Peace.

Reputation Comments on this post:

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[Euphoric]

Any info on ingredients?

[Alfa]

The real ingredients are not listed.

Ingredients: Fatty Acid Fertisation Deriatives, Dicalcium Phosphate, Magnesium Sterate.

Its from the same producers as Ivory Wave, which is known to give horror trips as well.

A question:
How many doves where taken and at what time?

[I<3Salvia]

Swim and his friend took the doves at about 11:00 at night. They each consumed 1 capsule. An experience report will be posted in the next day or so for those who are interested.