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Old 04-09-2009, 01:54
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UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

I have heard from reliable people that a quite well known UK legal-highs/research-chemical vendor was arrested a week or so ago and is awaiting court charges . Apparently the police said it was on the grounds of "Endangering the publics health". They were selling at the time mephedrone which is currently not classified in the UK. They are apparently now getting legal advice for their court case.

I think that this is scare tactics in action. I dont think that their case (whatever it may be) will stand up in court; because at the same time they have to deal with people selling scheduled/classified drugs. Even so, this is a nasty turn of events, and could set a precident for future laws and arrests for various legal highs.

Holland and Barretts better watch out, 5-htp and other psychoactive substances might be next.

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Old 04-09-2009, 02:14
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Re: UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

Very interesting; can't say I'm surprised, though. Any chance your acquaintances happen to know if this was specifically a legal-highs vendor, or a more clandestine RC vendor? Also, do you know if mephedrone was the only thing in stock?
More details, if at all possible, would be appreciably appreciated.
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:36
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Re: UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

They had other things other than just Mephedrone. Please see the thread http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...t=98769&page=2 and read from Mona Lisa's post on for more information. Apparently, its not just this one vendor but several vendors have disappeared. See Alfa's post at http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...5&postcount=33
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Old 04-09-2009, 02:45
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Re: UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

I think that the vendor in question used to sell various other legal highs like jwh-018, methylone, lidocaine, etc, but at the time of arrest was only selling mephedrone. Not entirely sure. Thanks for the link Chillinwill, probs a good idea to quote mona's post here:

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No, it was posted straight from the horse's mouth along with posts from other users on a couple different forums

Another customer has had the police come by, up in Scotland: As quoted by a poster on another forum, '... wasnt eager to make this public, but it's left me absolutely disgusted with the Police, and reinforced my belief that most of them are misleading and conniving buggers.

Yesterday I receieved a call on my mobile from a Scottish Police force, in particular, from a Detective Constable. She got my details from a Mephedrone supplier, who's website I used frequently some time ago. She stressed that I wasnt in any trouble, but wanted to ask me a few questions regarding my purchases from the site. I immedietly tried to get some legal advice, firstly to make sure that I wasnt going to be incriminating myself, and secondly to make sure that I wouldnt be putting anyone in the shit. Even though im well aware that Mephedrone is still a legal compound, I have no idea what my standing would be.

They called round this morning, and were freindly enough at the start, though we had a small disagreement, when they tried to paint an ignorant picture of one man dying from Mephedrone use in Dundee. I asked them what other substances he had taken with Mephedrone and they admitted he had mixed a fair few, and I found myself spouting my usual Drugs debate, which pissed them off slightly. As soon as I started, they were forcibly ramming the point home that this wasnt about my opinion on Drugs, and it was about the specific point of asking me questions related to the investigation. Then they started taking a statement, which I was comfortable with up until she asked me personal questions about my Drug use. I asked her three times during the interview why these questions were necessary, and she told me it was standard practice to ask these questions whenever they take a statement. When she asked me how long i'd been taking Mephedrone for, I realised that she was asking questions from a sheet that was tailored for the investigation that they are carring out. I asked her this, and she got absolutely defensive, tried to lie to me, and hide the sheet. When I asked that the interview be stopped, and I asked to stop answering questions, she tried to swing it back round on me and tried to run the guilt trip of how kids were taking Mephedrone, and I was 'unwilling to help them put a stop to it'. Only a fucking woman would have the nerve eh!

I asked to end the interview and was unwilling to say anything further. Quite frankly, im absolutely disgusted that they totally mislead me. While this is part of a major investigation for the Police, it's clear that they want to canvass user's habits and get more information on Mephedrone. I highlighted this, and they agreed, but what really makes me angry is the bias that they seem to have installed in them, and I asked them why they dont bother to leave their ignorance at the door, and actually do some research themselves. I mean, jesus. As I was showing them out, I was threatened with the knowledge that if this goes to the fiscal, they could force me to give evidence and if I refused, would be commiting an offence.

Most of you will have no doubt used the same supplier as me, who is now shut down, so expect a call from the Police, if you havent already.

MY OPINION:

I think I did the right thing, though I fully accept that people who sell Mephedrone from websites and such, do so with no warning whatsoever, and this practice is extremely irresponsible. I absloutely do not agree with this, and it's something that I could not do personally. I also understand that a lot of people are classing Mephedrone and other legal high's, as safe substances, purely for the fact that they are legal. Surely though, as with all substances, controlled or not, education is the key? If only the Police and other agencies would realise this.

This also highlights the extremely rapid public knowledge of Mephedrone, and how it's coverage has absolutely exploded over the last 2 months or so. This can only be seen as a bad thing. I dont know of any other legal high that has gained so much coverage so fast, or is on everyone's lips when I go out. I honestly have serious concerns that this issue will be part of new legislation next year. Sad times.


Discuss if you please, EADD...'

Believe this customer is also based north of the border.... am under the impression that people in Scotland have more to worry about concern this case. Understand that the police are contacting customers whose packages were clearly labelled to be sent out at the time of the vendor two separate arrests. Packages lying around the vendor's residence about to be shipped out rather than from customer records found on his computer apparently. Though imagine further investigations could take place if the case esculates.
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Re: UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

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I think that the vendor in question used to sell various other legal highs like jwh-018, methylone, lidocaine, etc, but at the time of arrest was only selling mephedrone. Not entirely sure. Thanks for the link Chillinwill, probs a good idea to quote mona's post here:
also noticed other vendors also only offering large doses?
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Re: UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

and so it begins...

Turtle doesn't think any member here can claim to be that suprised though...not if they've been paying attention these past few months.

Turtle only hopes this stays focused on the likes of mephedrone and bzp and doesn't take down the broader world of rc's...

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Re: UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

if we ease off the demand by calming down a little and letting the smoke settle, hopefully the attention will be drawn away towards something. However, as is always the case, its never the responsible ones like the people who use this website who cause the problems; its the ill-educated drug users who eat these RCs like candy without even doing the slightest bit of research, and then end up dying and ruining it for the sensible amongst us. its a damn shame, and i for one have bought my last big batch to last me this cold winter, until hopefully spring arrives and theres some new chems to sample and maybe with demand down, so will be the prices!
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Re: UK legal highs vendor arrested and facing charges

I do think it is a little to late now to be doing that especially considering its being banned like wildfire right now in numerous countries. Hopefully, we can keep that in mind for future RC's
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