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Old 29-08-2009, 22:20
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Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

swim has attempted its first pod tea (pap s. but unk strain)
jumbo pods

swim only has a food processor..swim put 10 split/emptied pods into the processor and grinded away. some of the pods grounded up to a fine powder, almost a tumeric like texture. other parts chopped but didnt grind to powder but stayed bigger them swim would like.
they were grinded on and off for ab0uot 7 min..when they started to warm up swim figured better safe then sorry and just left them...though does one think that if water was used in the grinding process with the food prcessor that it would ground down easier???then this waster can just be used along with the rest when simmering??

swim sees many using coffe grinders..money is a lil tight but if swimyou's think from experiance the coffee grinder is a worthwhile invewstment that will give swim a better result, then the money can be finagled...

swim assumes the coffee machine is alot let hassle then the food processor and doesnt think the heat it obtains from long grinding would really damaage the goodies but wasnt sure..

swim has used this machine for fresh kava from kava root and it was said the heat (though ure also using liquid) could damage..


i know we are not allowed to use brand names (from what i am aware this pertains to "products" , but if its not againts forum rules can anyone/if allowed give brandnames to a low cost decent coffee grinder?

one kinows you get what you pay for, but one is sure that a top notch coffee grinder wold prob run a few hundred beans..that cant be finagled..

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if one can give brand names for the grinder , please keep in mind if helpful my locationand the best place to get one is bed bath and beyond

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Old 29-08-2009, 22:38
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

The food processor would be better for grinding the powder as coffee grinders are designed just to be used with coffee beans. SWIM has noticed that the coffee grinder he uses is starting to see its last days, even though it still grinds alright, the blades are getting really blunt.

Also it would probably be better to soak the pods in water for a little bit to soften the pods up then put them in the food processor as I'm sure they are not designed for hard and dry plant materials.

Another tip to extend the life of the food processor is to grind in small bursts, like 10 seconds at a time and wait for another 10 seconds, otherwise the motor will burn out faster. I'm sure a few of the members around here will tell SWIY the same.
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Old 29-08-2009, 22:47
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

talk about luck..swims specific other just told swim they have an extra coffee grinder from its parents that i can have..

so i guess ill give them both a whack to see what works better..
though swim will still try soaking the pods as well to see how that works..

sorry for the thread though i can still see some info coming from it..

how long wold one suggesst soaking them for as those fuckers are hard, or if anyone adds extra water to it how much do you add..
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Old 29-08-2009, 22:58
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

SWIM would just soak until they are soft, maybe 15 mins in warm water, probably less though. It wont be hard to tell.
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

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SWIM would just soak until they are soft, maybe 15 mins in warm water, probably less though. It wont be hard to tell.
would something like this unintentionally extract some of the alkaloids, even if it's an almost neglible amount? SWIM is a joke at anything chemistry, so he could have no idea what he's talking about.
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Old 30-08-2009, 03:18
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would something like this unintentionally extract some of the alkaloids, even if it's an almost neglible amount? SWIM is a joke at anything chemistry, so he could have no idea what he's talking about.
Even if it did, as long as you include that water or left over water in with swims final product, one would think nothing would be lost
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Old 31-08-2009, 05:51
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

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Even if it did, as long as you include that water or left over water in with swims final product, one would think nothing would be lost
oh yeah, SWIM hadn't even thought of that. SWIM also has no common sense.
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

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Even if it did, as long as you include that water or left over water in with swims final product, one would think nothing would be lost
If SWIOne insists on "pre-soaking" pods, SWIM would strongly recommend saving this water and combining with SWIOne's final product.

The amount of alkaloids unintentionally extracted during this initial soak may not actually be "negligible" at all. Of course, this is merely speculative... but these alkaloids in question can sometimes be much more water-soluble than many SWIOnes think.

SWIM always used to make tea by soaking the poppy grounds for 20-30 minutes, then straining. When SWIM moved to an electric coffee maker, he found the product to be equally potent, even though the water flows through the grounds in much less time this way (less than 10 minutes). Finally, he has been using a french press occasionally these days, in which he only soaks his grounds for 2 or so minutes before pressing and drinking. In all cases, the end product is the same.

So, if SWIOne were to pre-soak SWIOne's pods for 15 minutes, SWIOne is going to pull out as many of the alkaloids, SWIM thinks, as possible. These things are highly water-soluble, and SWIM has read accounts that a very good final product can be produced without grinding at all, and simply breaking the pods into chunks.
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

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swim has attempted its first pod tea (pap s. but unk strain)
jumbo pods

swim only has a food processor..swim put 10 split/emptied pods into the processor and grinded away. some of the pods grounded up to a fine powder, almost a tumeric like texture. other parts chopped but didnt grind to powder but stayed bigger them swim would like.
they were grinded on and off for ab0uot 7 min..when they started to warm up swim figured better safe then sorry and just left them...though does one think that if water was used in the grinding process with the food prcessor that it would ground down easier???then this waster can just be used along with the rest when simmering??

swim sees many using coffe grinders..money is a lil tight but if swimyou's think from experiance the coffee grinder is a worthwhile invewstment that will give swim a better result, then the money can be finagled...

swim assumes the coffee machine is alot let hassle then the food processor and doesnt think the heat it obtains from long grinding would really damaage the goodies but wasnt sure..

swim has used this machine for fresh kava from kava root and it was said the heat (though ure also using liquid) could damage..


i know we are not allowed to use brand names (from what i am aware this pertains to "products" , but if its not againts forum rules can anyone/if allowed give brandnames to a low cost decent coffee grinder?

one kinows you get what you pay for, but one is sure that a top notch coffee grinder wold prob run a few hundred beans..that cant be finagled..

oneeno added 2 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

if one can give brand names for the grinder , please keep in mind if helpful my locationand the best place to get one is bed bath and beyond
get a coffee grinder. go to a store like target, and get a grinder for like 15 bucks. it's a lot less work.
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Old 31-08-2009, 10:51
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

Swim was in some junk shop and bought this older avocado green blender...circa 1970s
The thing weighs a ton,and has this monster electric motor that will probably outlast swim.........
This thing can grind pods into dust 24/7........best part it only cost swim 1 usd...
So look around,never know what ya can find..........
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Old 31-08-2009, 11:08
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

A coffee grinder is definitely worth the price & is essential in making tea. Swim's cat first chops the pods into small pieces, then whizzes them in a food processor & finally grinds them to the finest powder possible. Swim's cat finds that this makes an excellent brew.
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

SWIM says go for it. He got one at the largest retailer in the world for fifteen bucks. The resulting grind was WAY finer than from the blender. And its much quieter.

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SWIM says go for it. He got one at the largest retailer in the world for fifteen bucks. The resulting grind was WAY finer than from the blender. And its much quieter.
Oh yeah, and its brand name had the word for a sandy place by the ocean in it.

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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

I really think that they are worth the money. SWIM told me that there is really no other way to get all of the matter down to a powder. Swim finds it easiest to just powder it up and stir it into some applesauce or yogurt w/granola and just man-up and slurp it down.
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Re: Is a coffee grinder worth the price?

A blender seems to work just fine. The thing is, whether eating the grounds or making tea, you just need to increase the surface area (massively) to speed/aid absorption. At a certain point, dust is dust is dust.
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