Opinions - Not sure what to get

[ronaldo]

swim is rollin in about 10 weeks and wants to have a euphoric feeling and be able to dance, have lots of energy. SWIM tried bigluv pills (beta ketones) and found he walked around the club all night and didnt dance - plus it wore off after 2 hrs and then swim just felt disappointed.
swim wants to know what rc to get so he can sustain the roll between 10pm and 5am, get euphoria, energy and rush but not just wander around so much looking for illegal substances to replenish swimself
what should swim buy?
swim read loadz bout methedrone and methylone but not sure what else to do?

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Originally Posted by ronaldo

swim is rollin in about 10 weeks and wants to have a euphoric feeling and be able to dance, have lots of energy. SWIM tried bigluv pills (beta ketones) and found he walked around the club all night and didnt dance - plus it wore off after 2 hrs and then swim just felt disappointed.
swim wants to know what rc to get so he can sustain the roll between 10pm and 5am, get euphoria, energy and rush but not just wander around so much looking for illegal substances to replenish swimself
what should swim buy?
swim read loadz bout methedrone and methylone but not sure what else to do?

If SWIY wants something with the exact action and duration of MDMA, SWIY should probably get MDMA.

Mephedrone will lead to excessive "topping up" - not recommended. SWIM does not have experience with methylone, but from reports it seems that it may be a decent substitute.

[teagy]

methylone is probaly safer but swim does not rate it as a party chem far to mellow
mephedrone hits hard good euphoric buzz as stated already its very moreish
read carefully about methedrone possible side effects
if swiy must use do not order any more than what swiy plan to take
swim recomends you look else where tbh

Reputation Comments on this post:

Good, earnest harm reduction advice

[Dr. Satan]

There are less "and at present legal substances" which can answer these expectations. The problem of some Rc's as the Methylone or the Mephedrone, it's their short half-life, especially the Mephedrone's.
The danger it's to fall in the spiral to take it all night long and to have a painful come-down with the very difficult next day.
Many young people trivialize these drugs because they are "legal" because they can order them on certain web sites.
For example: the Methylone is interesting only in one or two doses no more. The effects of the third one are totally without any interest.
The Mephedrone, is very appreciated for its fast effect but the need to take it all the night gives it a particularly negative image.
It's very important to read some threads concerning these substances to have a precise idea before taking them.

[ronaldo]

if swiy thinks there are other legal substances out there that will fulfill expectations other than metylone and mephedrone - what are they?

[Mona Lisa]

SWIM quite rates the classic BZP/TFMPP combo for it's euphoria, music appreciation, mild trippiness and long duration.

[tummy_bug]

Possibly 5-meo-dalt. This is just an idea to go have a look. Although it does have short duration too.

[Dr. Satan]

There is another substance, the 4-FMP (4-Fluoroamphetamine) it's duration is longer than the Methylone's or the Mephedrone's.
It's a chemical analog of amphetamine, with some effects like euphoria, increased energy, mood elevation etc... There's a lot of threads on his precise effects, duration and dosages. It's necessary to get some good advices before consuming it.

[ronaldo]

according to reports this is now a class a drug -

ronaldo added 1 Minutes and 28 Seconds later...

swim was wondering - if swim double drops - say 300mg of methylone - will high last longer or will be same duration but more intense?

[shadowchaser]

swim found he needed more than the considered normal dosage, maybe because of his size. so swiy should probably experiment to see what works for him, starting small in case of idiosyncratic response.

[Dr. Satan]

300mg for first time it's too much, normal dose for the Methylone is from 150mg to 200mg it's a enough and effective dose. It's better to avoid useless risk for first time.
A first parachute of 200mg boosted by the second of 200mg a few hours later. As The Devil have already said, the third one is usefull, it will only prolonging a more painful come-down and sleeping difficulties. With a good setting swiy can get some expected effects.
Last advice:
Begin with a low dose and wait more or less one hour to appreciate the effects, especially when it's the first time which swiy take it!
If after one hour, swiy don't still feel the effects of the Methylone, swiy should wait before swallowing the second parachute. Indeed, certain substances show themselves with an effect delay.
Besides, it depends on the weight and on the general metabolism of the person.

Take care

Reputation Comments on this post:

much clearer advice than the previous post

[ronaldo]

swim in 5ft 7 inces and weighrs 72kilos. Very average lol.
SWIM is 30 yrs old and has only done legal highs once in last 8 years. b4 that swim - from the age of about 17-20 was regularly taking ecstasy. (gone are the good old days)
swim wants to take mdma but has not the faintest idea where to get it so is hoping RC is the way ahead. swim thinks he can cope with a 150mg dose of methylone- wait an hour and then another 150mg.

ronaldo added 12 Minutes and 10 Seconds later...

swim cannot believe the shite that people are taking today!

[I<3Salvia]

Swim has been searching also for other substances with similar properties. His search hasn't provided that much in the way of progress. Just to be clear, as of right yet, there is no available one good extacy substitute otherwise everyone would be using it. What you are basically going to find is a lot of chemicals, each having maybe one or two similarities to mdma as far as effects go. From swim's personal experience with a couple of these chemicals, these benefits have not been near as rewarding, and not lacking in significant negative side effects.
If you're looking for something to lift your mood at the club, swim may advise to focus on what you're looking for most (energy, euphoria, etc.) and stick to finding that. You will probably end up a lot more satisfied. Happy hunting.