Health - The Dangers of Deliriant Psychedelics

[Nagognog2]

Ah yes. That amusing night when an aquaintence of Bongo arrived to say he wished to take 600mg of Cyclizine.HCl...such a spectacle.

Upon the beginning of effects, the usually shy young 19 year old boy began to talk to his "girlfriend" (he wished), who seemed willing. Oh boy oh boy! It got really tacky...

A full night of watching this now-naked sweating, drooling, twitching, and quite totally delirious kid make passionate love to an empty sleeping-bag that was lying on the floor (better it that anyone else). It required a certain mental reserve to sit through that floor-show.

Yessiree. That was almost as much fun as, when Cylizine-Boy had come down and slept in a pool of moist semen and a soggy sleeping-bag, he awoke. His first words: "Where did she go?"

He was forced to go and dry-clean the sleeping-bag. For some odd reason, none of those present at this remake af "Last Tango In Paris" saw that guy again for quite a long time.

[Akewstick]

swiake, no idea what you mean

Yeah, me neither.

A full night of watching this now-naked sweating, drooling, twitching, and quite totally delirious kid make passionate love to an empty sleeping-bag that was lying on the floor (better it that anyone else). It required a certain mental reserve to sit through that floor-show.

That's an excellent story. SWIM introduced a friend to diphenhydramine, and this friend discovered that 400mg of the stuff, plus 500mg of zoloft was like deleriumX5.

One time SWIM entered the friends room (he had no idea she wasn't going to sober) and heard her saying "what?"...."no, i don't think so" and "speak up, i can't hear you", staring intently at a point on the side of her wardrobe. SWIM asked if everything was ok, to which the response was a scolding for interrupting a conversation. SWIM found that the other participant in this conversation was none other than a life-size poster of Nick Cave.

SWIM waited patiently for the poster to give him his chance to speak, and the conversation carried on for some time, sometimes SWIM would try to butt in, but they must have had a really important topic at hand, because they would be interrupted for nothing. A few times, SWIM's friend had to get closer to the poster and shield her mouth from SWIM, obviously intimate secrets were being shared, not meant for SWIM's ears. SWIM heard his name mentioned a few times and was uncomfortable with being discussed, he wondered what Nick Cave had to say about him.

This went on for a while, and just as SWIM was ready to say "I need to go, call me if you ever sober up" when his friend curled up into a ball and shook, terror in her face. SWIM paniced, and wondered what he should do when his friend squeaked "take it down take it down take it down, he's shouting at me" from inside the ball she'd rolled herself into, and then "STOP IT! shut up!". SWIM took the poster down and folded it with the picture side on the inside.

SWIM's friend has never told him what they said, or what the horrible things he shouted when the conversation turned sour.

Nytol + Zoloft = being abused by your rockstar idols

[imyourlittlebare]

no offense but that is a very stupid thing to do. very dangerous. that was making the person delerious by an influx of serotonin. a neurotransmitter. its potentially fatal and has terrible side effects. read up on it. im cringing at how dangerous that is.



That's an excellent story. SWIM introduced a friend to diphenhydramine, and this friend discovered that 400mg of the stuff, plus 500mg of zoloft was like deleriumX5.

One time SWIM entered the friends room (he had no idea she wasn't going to sober) and heard her saying "what?"...."no, i don't think so" and "speak up, i can't hear you", staring intently at a point on the side of her wardrobe. SWIM asked if everything was ok, to which the response was a scolding for interrupting a conversation. SWIM found that the other participant in this conversation was none other than a life-size poster of Nick Cave.

SWIM waited patiently for the poster to give him his chance to speak, and the conversation carried on for some time, sometimes SWIM would try to butt in, but they must have had a really important topic at hand, because they would be interrupted for nothing. A few times, SWIM's friend had to get closer to the poster and shield her mouth from SWIM, obviously intimate secrets were being shared, not meant for SWIM's ears. SWIM heard his name mentioned a few times and was uncomfortable with being discussed, he wondered what Nick Cave had to say about him.

This went on for a while, and just as SWIM was ready to say "I need to go, call me if you ever sober up" when his friend curled up into a ball and shook, terror in her face. SWIM paniced, and wondered what he should do when his friend squeaked "take it down take it down take it down, he's shouting at me" from inside the ball she'd rolled herself into, and then "STOP IT! shut up!". SWIM took the poster down and folded it with the picture side on the inside.

SWIM's friend has never told him what they said, or what the horrible things he shouted when the conversation turned sour.

Nytol + Zoloft = being abused by your rockstar idols[/quote]

[jaypeddie]

hahahahaha, that's absolutely absurd, and hilarious. Deleriants lead to the funniest stories out of any drug

[darkglobe]

Haha! Nick Cave! Hahahahaha!



~dark

[mrvideoheadache]

Hi, this is my first post. My friend had a very peculiar trip off dramamine. He had decided to take 12 pills. I of course took none . Anyway, after a few minutes he began to sort of robo trip. After a while outside he ventured into his friend's house and crashed on the bed. Moments pass, and the haulucinations begin to take affect. A small dot on the wall transforms into a spider then morphs into several little spiders. There's a lump of clothing piled atop a chair, that for some reason resembles a person in his mind. So he has a long conversation with it, while everyone else is outide. The next day he drives home when it begins to rain. Only it's not raining at all. From what I understand this deleriant drugs don't give you a very fun trip at all. the haulucinations are not simalar to lsd either. They're more comparable to getting your head banged against a blunt object and seeing stars. They're blurry and usually non specific. From the descriptions all my friends gave their experiences are all the same. However, I would be interested to know if dramamine, or any other deleriant psychedelics are useful in mixing with other drugs.

[Probing Tranquility]

When swim was in highschool he took alot of dramamine and dxm. One night after taking 20 pills he started watching south park in the dark. He then noticed that there were creatures that seemed to be made out of what soap bubbles are made of. He watched them for awhile and then he started seeing native american midgets that had the face of baraka from mortal kombat running around his room. Another night on a box and a half of triple cs and about 20 dramamine swim was laying in his bed staring at his wall when a portal opened up and all sorts of creatures made of this soap bubble substance started running out of it and then dissapearing. It was very strange to say the least.

[boylizard]

au contraire, swim knows they are not blurry at all, but incredibly real. they... they are some very different drugs... swim has tried both diphenhydramine and dimenhydrinate, and they do seem to have a mild addictive quality - swim went through a period of time where he wanted to keep doing them, over and over - every day, every nite, DURING SCHOOL even... swim didnt enjoy it but he kept wanting to try. careful with em..
thats the end of swims lecture, he decided to shut up. altogether, swim doesn't think they are really worth abusing.

[El Calico Loco]

The only benefit to mixing diphenhydramine or dimenhydrinate with other drugs is to offset nausea caused by said other drugs. A normal, theraputic dose is recommended.


ECL

[darkglobe]

Publication: Journal of Neuroscience Nursing
Date: August 2002
Subject: Neurology (Research), Insomnia (Drug therapy), Nursing (Practice), Diphenhydramine (Complications)
Location: United States


Diphenhydramine is commonly used to promote sleep and is largely considered safe by most clinicians. However, a recent report from Yale University suggests that elderly patients taking diphenhydramine may experience serious adverse effects.
In a study of hospitalized patients over the age of 70 years, those who received diphenhydramine for sleep had an increased risk for delirium as compared to those who did not receive this drug. Specific problems encountered included inattention, disorganized speech, altered sleep-wake cycles, behavioral disturbances, and abnormal psychomotor activity. Further, these patients also had a greater need for urinary catheterization and had a significantly longer length of hospital stay.


This study suggests diphenhydramine be used with caution in the elderly population. Further, nonpharmacologic approaches to sleep, such as creating an environment conducive to sleep, might be even more beneficial in this age group.



REFS:

Agostini, J.V., Leo-Summers, L.S., & Inouye, S.K. (2001). Cognitive and other adverse effects of diphenhydramine use in hospitalized older patients. Archives of Internal Medicine, 161, 2091-2097.



~Dark

[darkglobe]

I hate to piss on people's drug-loving parade, but I like to keep some form of balance here. Whilst I in no way tell people not to do Diphen, I like to be cautious (in case you hadn't noticed). Here is a list of Diphen OD symptoms:

Symptoms & Signs

• body as a whole
  • unsteadiness
  • convulsions
  • delirium
• respiratory
  • slow, labored breathing
• eyes, ears, nose, and throat
  • ringing in the ears
  • blurred vision
  • very dry mouth and throat
• gastrointestinal
  • nausea and/or vomiting
  • diarrhea
  • stomach pain
  • dry mucous membranes
• heart and blood vessels
  • rapid heart rate
• nervous system
  • dizziness
  • agitation
  • incoherence (not understandable)
  • confusion
  • coma
  • drowsiness
  • movement disorder
  Lovely. Lol.

~Dark.

[El Calico Loco]

Heh...I thought that list of symptoms is what DPL lovers were going for. Except maybe the "coma" part.


ECL

[darkglobe]

I'm not sure I want nausea or coma. The list isn't amazingly scientific though... How the fuck does an anti-emitic cause vomiting, huh?

Lol.

[imyourlittlebare]

an antiemitic isnt a guarenteed thing. if the brain registers enough poison to reach a threshhold even if the stuff isnt supposed to make you nauseous it will

Originally Posted by darkglobe

I'm not sure I want nausea or coma. The list isn't amazingly scientific though... How the fuck does an anti-emitic cause vomiting, huh?

Lol.

[Alicia]

^^^ excess amounts taken perhaps could cause or warrant that effect.

[darkglobe]

True. I was just having a random philosophical moment.

[imyourlittlebare]

someone in here said dxm and pcp are deleriants. they are not. they are dissociative anestetics. they act on NMDA receptors and can cause hallucinations and such but are more of an out of body experience. deleriants such as nutmeg, mandrake and other such drugs tend to cause true hallucinations that are MORE intense than what even schizophrenics have. pcp is and can be used as a model of schizophrenia just like meth and cocaine for its role with glutimate. those true delerients cause much much more pain and psychosis because of ones inability to remember even after the events. schizophrenics given haliperidol remember their psychosis. pcp and meth users can remember. deleriant users cant and they entirely lose control of working memory and their body and luckily its sedating unlike pcp which induces a flux of epinephrine which causes a fight response. thats my two cents. i apologize for the poor spelling. its 3 o clock in the morning here.

[MaggotxChild]

dihenhydramine is unpredictable. sometimes i get unbelievably vivid dreamlike closed eyed visuals, as if i could go in and out of slee by simply blinking. other times i take 700 mgs and just feel drunk. 1 thing is for sure though, the more times you tae it consecutively the more tolerance you build. if you want the full efffects, wait a week and do it. /if you want to feel that lovely buzz, and relaxation, go ahead, but expect nothing too profound. It's chheap, and can be fun if you do it right. I've had as much fun on dph as on lsd and morning glory seeds, and at a fraction of the cost, which is why i find myself hittin up that little bottle every week at least 2 or 3 times(not to hallucinate, to get high)

[Orchid_Suspiria]

As fun as lsd?lol swim wouldn't go that far.It is a totally different kind of experience.lsd is light and spiritual whereas diphenhydramine is dark and eerie.If swim feels particularly masochistic he will sit up late at night on diphenhydramine reading paranormal websites and ghost stories.No this isn't a good idea unless swiy likes being in a state of complete paranoia or even sliding into terror.

[seeingred]

Swim never had problems with Diphenhydramine- probably never took that much. But, it makes swim nauseous to take them, just can't seem to take them at all- not like they were any thrill.

[MaggotxChild]

right, swim said fun, definitely not the same experience. Funny though, swim almost never has anxeity attacks on dph but every time he trips acid paranoia and anxeity almost ruin the entire experience. Swim prefers L.S.A from morning glory seeds though...he pukes EVERY time he does morning glory, but once thats done he gets very vivid oevs and cevs (ussually colorful patterns, breathing visuals, color swirling...not holy shit barneys in my fridge visuals...) and with less anxeity.....swim hardly ever gets visuals with dph anyways...love the body high though....it's really something unique....But never again.....they are dangerous, and swim would claim them addictive, but then again Swim is said to have an 'addictive' personality....good thing swim refuses to try coke heroin or meth.....

[GodspeedFx]

Swim has dramatripped twice in his life.. once at 10 pills, and once at 14. The first trip was quite fun.. swim's pillows on his couch were bubbling like they were volcanic, as well as the floor, however he had no totally sentient hallucinations..

The second trip, however, was quite scary for swim.. the bubbling returned, but the auditory hallucinations weren't very pleasant. Swim began seeing random friends that he knew weren't at his house (swim 2 sitters and a tripping partner for both experiences). These hallucination friends wouldn't speak, and they sat motionless on the couch with their mouths open like they were zombies.. swim also heard voices coming from other rooms in the house, and sometimes screaming.

Swim saw 2 of the exact same remote controls for his TV on the couch, and whenever he would reach for one, it would disappear and reappear somewhere else on the couch. Swim was quite frustrated.

Swim probably won't be tripping Dramamine again.. the hallucinations were too real and too vivid to be enjoyable.

[jayjee123]

u just gotta prepare urself beforehand. just tell urself before u take them and while ur taking them "okay i might hallucinate just block out anything unrealistic" its not so hard to do once u get used to taking them

[Orchid_Suspiria]

Just don't get too used to them.Swim used to use diphenhydramine daily and while he has no evidence to back this he thinks his mind and body have suffered for it.

[Swift Serenity]

SWIM thinks it too. he hasnt tooken it for about a week since the trip to the hospital, but plans on it later to see if he can still hallucinate.

SWIM would take atleast 300-400mg daily, where he got so big of a tolerance it wouldnt effect SWIM at all