Injecting - Partial circulation loss -gets better, right?

[PanSapiens]

SWIM injects just occasionally. Neddle got blocked, so SWIM just applied enough pressure to force the blockage through. Bad idea. Hurt a bit, but no bruising. SWIM now has, albeit minor, 'dead arm' (like when you go to sleep on it). Fingers feel cold. Not bad, just annoying, but still like that after a week. Other veins more prominent (pumped up look). Don't think the vein collapsed (had that before on same vein some years back ->felt similar, worse initially, but got better faster). Possible minor vascular blockage?
...anyhow, getting to the point, this kind of thing gets better, right? RIGHT???
SWIM likes normal use of his wrist and fingers, and could do with some reassuring noises.

[dyingtomorrow]

Hmmm ...

-Needed to use a lot of pressure to inject

-Hurt

-Caused entire arm to go dead

-Long term affect

These don't happen from shooting a vein. Sounds like you might have shot an artery instead. Did your arm swell up or turn red while you were doing it?
Where precisely, or in what general area, did you inject? There are two arteries that are around areas where people commonly shoot up - one in the wrist around where the pulse is taken, one in the bend of the elbow, towards the body. SWIM is going to guess it was around one of these two places?

[tourniquet]

Definitely sounds like an artery hit. SWIM had this happening several (!!!) times...And it had the exact symptoms swiy described. BUT... there's this excruciating pain while shooting into an artery...curious swiy don't mention it!
Either way, it's taking a bit too long to heal in swim's opinion. SWIM had hers healed in a matter of days. And she found out not ice, but hot water helps. Probably (IMHO)coz ice tightens the vessels while hot water enlarges them, thus alowing the tiny heroin&adulterants pieces evacuate the place and get swiy's circulation in the area back to normal.
However, artery shots are what junkies lose their members over. Couldn't hurt getting checked by some friendly doc.

[SmokeNmirrors]

Yeah swim is going to agree with the last two posts and it sounds like swiy may have hit a artery.Swim is surprised to hear that it hasn't got any better though but swim wishes swiy the best and thinks it will heal up shortly.

[tourniquet]

SWIM got stuck on the "no excruciating pain" thing. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't an artery but like swihself suggested, the vein collapsed. This could lead to other veins being more proeminent (blood trying to take other ways since that vein is fucked).
Also, if swiy would have hit an artery, besides the excruciating pain in the moment of the hit, his veins wouldn't get more proeminent since the arm would be swollen like hell, and discolored.
SWIM distroyed some of her veins on the hands, and the fingers related to those did get colder and going numb often for a long time.
If this collapsed vein is the case, not to worry too much, since with veins the body is always able to find other ways for blood circulation for the area.

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by tourniqet

SWIM got stuck on the "no excruciating pain" thing. So maybe, just maybe, it wasn't an artery but like swihself suggested, the vein collapsed. This could lead to other veins being more proeminent (blood trying to take other ways since that vein is fucked).
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Also, if swiy would have hit an artery, besides the excruciating pain in the moment of the hit, his veins wouldn't get more proeminent since the arm would be swollen like hell, and discolored.
SWIM distroyed some of her veins on the hands, and the fingers related to those did get colder and going numb often for a long time.
If this collapsed vein is the case, not to worry too much, since with veins the body is always able to find other ways for blood circulation for the area.

Well, SWIM shot his arm arteries 3 times. 1 time was excruciatingly painful and SWIM couldn't even finish doing it. The other 2 SWIM was able to get it off and it hurt, but wasn't "excruciating" really. Probably depends where/which artery you shoot. Also each time made his whole arm get red and splotchy, but it didn't swell up.

[Junkhead23]

Everytime pacman has hit an artery it has felt like a red hot poker being jabbed inside followed by immediate swelling. No doubt that the pain is sometimes unnoticeable. Also usually pacman finds when he has hit an artery the instant feeling of wanting to yank it straight out (don't do that)

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by Junkhead23

Everytime pacman has hit an artery it has felt like a red hot poker being jabbed inside followed by immediate swelling. No doubt that the pain is sometimes unnoticeable. Also usually pacman finds when he has hit an artery the instant feeling of wanting to yank it straight out (don't do that)

Do you remember where you hit?

SWIM hit his inner elbow artery once, and it hurt so bad he stopped after trying to get like .10cc in. But another time he shot it again (this was all before he learned not to shoot arteries, early in the addiction), and was able to get it off, but it made his whole arm red and splotchy. The third time he shot his wrist-pulse artery, and that hurt too but he was also able to get it off and his arm didn't turn that red.

BTW from breaking down crack with citric or lemon juice to make speedballs, SWIM noticed the burning factor is a lot higher (obviously), and one time he used too much and it burned like fire to shoot. Maybe the difference between H3 and H4 has to do with the pain/swelling/after effect factor of shooting an artery.

[tourniquet]

Originally Posted by dyingtomorrow

Do you remember where you hit?

SWIM hit his inner elbow artery once, and it hurt so bad he stopped after trying to get like .10cc in. But another time he shot it again (this was all before he learned not to shoot arteries, early in the addiction), and was able to get it off, but it made his whole arm red and splotchy. The third time he shot his wrist-pulse artery, and that hurt too but he was also able to get it off and his arm didn't turn that red.

BTW from breaking down crack with citric or lemon juice to make speedballs, SWIM noticed the burning factor is a lot higher (obviously), and one time he used too much and it burned like fire to shoot. Maybe the difference between H3 and H4 has to do with the pain/swelling/after effect factor of shooting an artery.

Maybe thats the thing why swim and swiy have contrary experience. SWIMs from romania and here is the afghan shit, heroin base, that doesn't solve into water without citric...
Indeed, swims artery hits were with citric as well ...and indeed even with vein good clean shots, if too much citric added, will burn like hell. Guess it's easier for citric junkies to tell if they did a good shot or not lol

[dyingtomorrow]

One thing SWIM would add: This is why SWIM uses short tip needles. Going in a centimeter or 2 doesn't have much risk of damaging anything. Digging around with an inch and a half needle in your body can do some pretty gross and painful things.

[Junkhead23]

Yeah pacman has hit the one in the wrist which he immediately yanked out which was a bad idea. That was pretty painful and made his whole arm swell.

The other one was on the forearm and he got some in and it didn't hurt that much but his arm swelled up big time for days.

Other was in crook of arm tried to shoot instant really bad pain and stopped but that one didn't swell so much.

[InstantKarma]

Another possibility is you may have hit a nerve...swim has done that with some similar side effects. However a week seems like a very long time for that to heal.