Oral use - Quid Method

[gib]

Has anyone ever chewed salvia leaves instead of smoking an extract? How much did you chew and what were the effect?

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[PeppersGhost]

SWIM has had the 4g quid in his mouth for 30 minutes and hasn't had any effect, what is he doing wrong?

[demon_candy]

SWIM is interested herself in trying some fresh Salvia quids, and is hoping to procure some plants at some point.

SWIM has read though, that a lot of times the amount of psychoactive substance can vary from plant to plant, so it is quite possible that one could chew a quid from one plant and get very good effects, and then barely get any from another. SWIM has found erowid to be a pretty good source of information on Salvia.

She has also read that allowing the substance to absorb in your mouth as opposed to swallowing constantly also helps enhance the experience.

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM found he needed around 10g dry leaf to get strong effects sublingually.

Here's a trip report SWIM wrote:

"I poured around 10g of crushed up salvia into my mouth and started chewing. As it was dry leaf and not fresh it tasted terrible but I kept chewing it and retaining the juices in my mouth for about 20mins. I then swallowed it all down and was already feeling some affects. I laid down in my bed and felt very weighted down. 10mins later I was on the very edge of full blown hallucinations. The room was shifting about and I could see shapes and figures forming in front of me although these never took full shape. I turned the light out and became very close to full blown OEVs but not quite. So I shut my eyes and I was in another world. Its really strange, with salvia I seem to have another part of my brain unlocked that retains all my previous salvia trip experiences. I got my past experiences, which I had previously found very hard to remember fully, come rushing back. I know there is some of this trip I cannot recall at the moment but as soon as I do salvia again it will probably come rushing back. My CEVs were very similar to past trips. I always seem to be in some crazy cartoonish world where I am part of the scenery.

This time I was in some house but the house was made up of lots of people linking hands. They were all in brightly coloured jump suits. I was also one of these people but it felt like I was being forced into it against my will, quite strange. This trip was a lot easier to come out of as I could just switch the light on or open my eyes, then as soon as I shut my eyes again and turned out the light I was back again. This was about midnight, and after I had been tripping for 10mins or so I needed a slash. I managed with great effort to get out of my bed and to the toilet, I felt extremely stoned and quite drunk and couldn't walk properly. When I got back to bed I was still tripping but after a while managed to get to sleep again. I then woke up 2 hours later still tripping!! It was less visual this time, instead of people and landscapes I was seeing swirling patterns and colours. My body felt like it was spinning around, kind of as if I was falling from a plane or something. Anyways I needed another slash and walking was considerably easier this time. By the time I got back to bed I was not feeling the affects of the salvia that strongly anymore and got to sleep fine."

[Stradivarius]

SWIpsychedelaholic tried smoking it? One was curious about the strength of the dry leaf 1x, 10x? Hector is trying to calculate an oral dosage for himself.

[psychedelaholic]

Originally Posted by Stradivarius

SWIpsychedelaholic tried smoking it? One was curious about the strength of the dry leaf 1x, 10x? Hector is trying to calculate an oral dosage for himself.

SWIM has smoked it lots of times ranging from plain leaf up to 60x. Smoked SWIM finds it lasts a matter of minutes whereas sublingually it lasted for hours.

The leaf SWIM used was just 1x but was very very strong for plain leaf. SWIM was able to trip from smoking 1g of it at once.

[Stradivarius]

Sublingually should last longer but is it the same intensity? Also, what is the dosage compared to smoked ? Ten times the amount?

[`ForlornSage`]

Is SWIY using plain leaf?

SWIM finds that when using non-extracts, smoking some first and then stuffing as much under SWIM's tongue as possible will make it work. SWIM holds the quid tight under her tongue and keeps a cup nearby to spit out excess saliva. Chews maybe twice, pushes quid back under tongue (may have to use a finger) and starts to feel the effects within 15 minutes. SWIM has had it last quite long and has to force herself to turn the quid over every once in a while.