Anyone tried kratom + opiates?

[sterling77]

It seems like the combination of the two would work well together and
potentiate each other, as they have similar effects. Maybe a low
dose of vicodin with a little kratom extract, sounds like it could turn
out well.



Any experiences or info guys? My kratom extract should be coming in any day and I plan to post an experience of the combo.

[Nicaine]

In my opinion this would be a bad idea, like mixing Vicodin with Percocets. The two could potentiate each other in unknown ways... could cause stuff like severe nausea or whatever. I wouldn't do it myself, but if you do I'd go for a VERY low dose of each.

[sterling77]

Yea SWIM was planning on going for a low dose of each. It is
assumed that they will probably just potentiate each other in the way
that you suggested with vicodin and percocets, but who knows they could
have some unexpected reactions. Will post detailed results.



Another question knowledgable members. It is my understanding
that kratom does not directly stimulate the opiate receptors, but I was
wondering if those little tricks for potentiating opiates apply to
kratom. Such as: taking with grapefruit juice and carbonated
beverages, benadryl, nyquil, et cetera.

[sterling77]

Anyone know anything about that? I read on a supplier's site that
benadryl would potentiate kratom, although in a negative way.
Grapefruit juice works on the same enzyme as opiates, and kratom does
some wierd crossing-over type thing so would grapefruit juice have any
additive effect?

[Nicaine]

Originally Posted by sterling100

Another question knowledgable members.* It is my understanding that kratom does not directly stimulate the opiate receptors, but I was
wondering if those little tricks for potentiating opiates apply to kratom.* Such as: taking with grapefruit juice and carbonated beverages, benadryl, nyquil, et cetera.

AFAIK, Kratom *is* an opiate receptor agonist. That doesn't mean that the same stuff that potentiates opiates would work with K., because K. isn't an opiate.

My guess is that too little is known about the active alkaloids to know for sure. How come you want to potentiate Kratom, have you developed a heavy tolerance or something?Edited by: Nicaine

[sterling77]

Thanks for the answer. No I don't have a heavy tolerance, I was
just wondering for the sake of knowledge, and also it could help
stretch what you've bought.

[panchovilla]

Agave nectar is my prefered sweetener for kratom elixir.

[Red_Baran]

I love the combo of of a few grams of kratom, and a few (4-5)10/325 vikes.


i have a heavy tolerance