Ethylone (bk-MDEA) trip reports

[radiometer]

SWIMs wife tried boosting methylone with bk-MBDB once. She had an awful experience and neither of them has ever been inclined to try again. SWIM had to give her a fair amount of benzodiazepines to alleviate her marked dysphoria which was starting to lead towards a panic attack.

Based on the one data point, it's basically the opposite of boosting with ethylone - excessive stimulation, dysphoria, MORE sketchy feelings than from methylone alone. A big disappointment to SWIM and spouse as they had a decent amount of bk-MBDB around and no way to procure any more ethylone. SWIM gave all of his bk-MBDB away except for a small archival sample.

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Thanks SWIRadiometer. SWIM will take that one off of the wishlist. SWIM had read nothing but the same about it and figures the consensus of opinions is worth heeding...

[enquirewithin]

SWIM's experiences have been different. In his opinion, bk-MBDB is more stimulating than methylone or ethylone/ bk-MDA and more euphoric. This is strange because MBDB is a lethargic sort of material with nothing of interest to SWIM.

He thinks that bk-MBDB is actually taken better on it's own. The dosage is comparable with methylone. Combinations are better when you know both materials a little.

He has tried combining it with methylone to very good effect and has only experienced dysphoria when taking too much of that combination, both redosing in, either order, or mixing the two. Perhaps people unused to stimulants might find bk-MDBD too stimulating, perhaps other factors unknown make this material dysphoric for some. All stimulants turn dysphoric if you take them too often or react badly to them.

SWIm found ethylone more dysphoric than bk-MBDB and, although OK but rather unexciting by itself. Re-dosing ethylone with ethylone seemed fairly negative-- paranoid thoughts, etc, but not very alarming.

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SWIM first tried bk-MBDB by itself and had a lousy experience, sans euphoria. To be fair, he and mrs SWIM only tried it the once each, and it could very well be that further exploration might have provided better results. But between this bad experience and the one with the missus having a hard time of it with the methylone combo, it was decided that enough had been tried.

This has all gotten a bit off-topic to "ethylone experiences," perhaps it would be better to start a new thread comparing these beta-ketos instead?

From what I've read and seen, the responses to bk-MDEA and to bk-MBDB have been all over the map.

[enquirewithin]

Yes. Both materials seem quite unpredictable, more so than methylone, which is probably why it's the most popular beta-ketone.

[radiometer]

Acknowledging that I helped steer this thread improperly, here's one more attempt:




This is a thread for trip reports from ethylone experiences. Your question should merit its own thread, especially if it's to help anyone use the search engine to find it.

[Alfa]

Please notice that ethylone is BK-MDEA, not BK-MDA as I see mentioned in this thread now and then.