Effects - Mushrooms vs 2C-X Compounds

[teagy]

swim is new to the 2c family of rcs but is considering
taking a little look at them
swim has enjoyed the good old english magic shroom on numerous
occasions
swim loved shrooms but is concerned he may find the 2c overwhelming
swim is not sure how they compare?
any advice very welcome

[sandoz1943]

SWIM would suggest 2CI if you are looking for a "shroomy" RC. In her opinion the trip is very simular. The 2CE is more visual but she tends to feel kind of speedy when she does it and she not in to speedy. The 2C's are nice but not all up in your head like shrooms or LSD. My trip buddy like to say they aren't as thoughtfull as other some of the other trips.

[polidelaiko]

2C-I can feel very speedy too...
In fact, last time SWIM took 14mg and the comeup felt like he had taken an entire plantation of coffee, with shivers and tremors, nausea and dry heaves.
After a while it stabilized into something nicer, but still speedy.

[lucian]

SWIM finds mushrooms more friendly then either 2C-I or 2C-B, but then he is more accustomed with the former. 2C-B definately has a speedy edge which is reasonably pleasent but it does make you sweat loads in the first hour or two. 2C-I has less of a body load for SWIM, one of the most physically comfortable psychedelics he has tried however again it does makes you sweat a bit.

SWIM had a particularly fun time with 2C-I however the mindset appears to cycle from ultra-peaceful to totally intense for entire peak of the experience; there is also some short term memory loss during the experience for SWIM.

If SWIY has had an intense mushroom trip which had difficult moments, and perhaps some anxiety which SWIY overcame, then a jump to these will not be felt too much. All psychedelics cause some mental discomfort for SWIM in the shape of anxiety, and he believes this is a normal effect of hallucinogens. These feelings are normally fleeting and do not spoil the overal experience and in fact are very much part of the trip.

Mushrooms just feel calmer and this may be because they have a saftey catch for SWIM it seems: when visuals become too much shutting eyes produces kalidoscope patterns and a peaceful dreamy mindset which dispells any creeping anxiety. This may be the case for 2C-B/I with SWIM however it certainly is not the case for LSD; shutting eyes when things become to much just creates visions off even wierder and more complex stuff. SWIM also finds mushrooms more introspective and contemplative; both 2C-I and 2C-B are more social and energetic. 2C-B in low/medium doses has been nice at festivals and walking in the country however mushrooms whilst pleasant with music are a sit down thing for SWIM.

With this in mind as long as SWIY dosn't overdo the dose than I am sure it won't be wildly different to what you have experienced; many of the classic hallucinogens have a similarity in their mindset. Mushrooms are one of SWIM's favourite substances, so this may colour his judgment in response to SWIY's question : )

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[DiiZZy_D]

SWIM says:

doing 2c-e was one of the worst decisions of my life. Previosly i had done acid once, shrooms a couple times, and daily weed smoking. As soon as i took it i felt like i kept goin up and up and it got more intese for about a hour and a half. This made me start to panick and i had what you could call a bad trip, but once i plateaud i felt better and enjoyed the next 8 hours of my trip. All was good until about 2 weeks later when i would smoke buds and notice things sliding or patterns flowing, although this was tolerable and seemed irrelevent at the time. another week passed and i came home from lunch sat down and began smoking a bowl, and i started to see 3d faces in my carpet... every direction i looked i would see a face. I wondered if somebody was playing a trick on me or if i had left some in my pocket and accidentaly ingested it. The next week was one of the most teriffying times of my life as i went to bed tripping balls each night only to once again wake up in the morning still trippin balls. I stopped smoking weed for about two months, hoping that the halucinations would stop. They didnt it has been about 4 months and yes... im still trippin balls everyday, and it has led me to begin having panic attacks that i will be overcome with hallucinations and be unable to function. its scary beacuse im tripping four months after ingesting the halucinogen. My advice to you would be to stay far away from the 2c's. I only wish i could go back and do the same. At the time though who could of know it would happen to me

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	Please read the rules regarding self-incrimination.
	Read the rules. And this should be in the 2c-e info thread, or experience thread, or the RC side-effects thread.

[Oxymorphone]

I believe if SWIY stays within the reasonable dosages he shouldn't find them to be too overwhelming.

SWIM has never gotten any shrooms that were really *that* good before, so he can't be entirely sure, but he does find the 2C's to be a little warmer, and friendlier when compared with mushrooms and other psychedelics.

2C-E is very visual, but they're not overwhelming visuals. SWIY doesn't start seeing alligators and demons or anything of the sort though, the visuals are soft.. sort of "glowy"

2C-T-7 is a lot like 2C-E but SWIM found it to be even more visual (at higher doses it did get a "little" overwhelming, but SWIM found it more amazing than anything). The hallucinations were nonsensical, they weren't anything in particular, just colors and textures. Beautiful. Most beautiful drug SWIM has ever tried.

2C-I ... well, tonight is SWIM's first time trying it, and it was "accidental". After a ..while, and nearly forgotten about attempt to acquire 2C-I from a questionable vendor, a strange envelop came in SWIM's mailbox. Very unprepared (though pleasantly surprised), not having a scale or anything of the like handy.. there was a mishap when he was measuring the (poorly packaged) 100mg and SWIM knew it wouldn't be long before he started to feel something, so he separated out what he had into estimated 20mg doses and decided to not let anything go to waste, so he licked the rest off his hands. Hey, he washes.

So far he states it as being very warm, his muscles feel good, almost like after having had a hot bath, which is very nice after a shit day of work. At this point his visuals are mild, but definitely exist. Colors are very vivid and SWIM feels quite relaxed and I'll stop now or this'll turn into SWIM's experience report

SWIM would have to say with conviction, go for it. The 2C's are a friendly bunch and SWIY shouldn't find them overwhelming at all.

[Psilocin]

rc's are of great fun. swim would recommend a digital scale that weighs to at least .1 of a gram. be very careful when using rc's as the slightest bit of powder can result in a much larger experience then one were to expect. visuals are wonderful and yes, as someone previously suggested, some can be on the speedy side.

[CrookedEye]

SWIM doesn't think the 2c's and shrooms are very similar, and would compare 2cb more to mescaline, than shrooms. He only has experience with 2cb, more than once (and 2ci once in a low dose), but in a dose of 25 mgs or so, it seems to be a nice ride, but not near overwhelming. For a shroom-like trip, perhaps SWIY should search out 4-AcO-DMT, which is a tryptamine very close, in structure and effects, to psilocin.

With the most psychedelics, it's the dose that can really make a trip happy and comfortable, or scary and overwhelming. SWIM would suggest starting at low doses, and slowly stepping up as needed to find the correct comfortable dose for SWIY.

[Makutzi]

Sorry, but SWIM is a bit lost here. What's the 2c family of rcs please?

[brown05051991]

Originally Posted by Makutzi

Sorry, but SWIM is a bit lost here. What's the 2c family of rcs please?

the 2c family is a group of drugs called rc's(research chemicals) they are called this because they have not been around that long and are therefore still being 'researched' so long term effects on the body and mind are not very well understood yet unlike lsd or mushrooms which have been aroun for a long time. 2c is just the shortened name for each of them as theyre chemical names are quite long and can be difficult to pronounce, for example the chemical name for 2c-e is (2,5-dimethoxy-4-ethylphenethylamine). this forum also has a section fully devoted to rc's, maybe swiy should check that out, hope this helps