Overdose - A trip to the hospital

[maletwickenham]

Swim and his mates were out last night and had a bag of morning glory heavenly blue seeds. The seeds were bought around a year ago and Swim thought the amount of lsa in them would be low. Swim weighted out around 10 grams each. These were untreated and clean seeds. Swim's mate had a girl with her and although she was young swim thought she would be ok to have some seeds. Swim gave her 10 grams the same as everyone else. She said she was 16 although turned out to be 14. Swim and his mates started chewing on the seeds the there was 3 people in all doing the seeds including swim. Swim consumed about 6 or 7 grams before being over come by the taste. Swims mate managed around the same and her mate finished all 10 grams.

Swim hanged around and although some discomfort was okay. Swims mate felt very sick and asked to go home. So they started to head off and got some chips on the way home. Swim left them and that was the last he would see of them.

Swim then go a phone call around a few hours later from his mate saying she was scared for her mate as she let her go home on her own. Swim said he would try text her and although he could not get through though she would be okay. Swim then went to sleep.

Swim was woken up by another phone call from his mate saying no one could reach her friend. Swim then was panicking and thought she might have had an accident on the way home. He tried to call her all day and could not get through. He then contacted his mate and she could not get through to her. Swim was very worried and hoped for the best.

Swim then got a phone call from the girls dad saying she was in hospital with having her stomach pumped and saying if he told him what she had taken he would not beat him up. Swim told him and he thought it may have been lsd she was drugged with anyway. The guy on the phone then asked swims age and when he told him he was 21 the guy was more raged. He asked swim how old he thought the girl was. Swim then replied and told him he thought the girl was 16 and that she wanted to try the seeds. He told Swim she was 14. Swim has been told not to contract the girl or the girls mate ever again.

Just thought I would post this for others to read encase they can enlighten to provide details on how this could happen. This event took place last night in wonderland. How could this happen? Swim took them as well and he was fine and so was his mate? Could because she was 14? Swim is more than aware 16 is too young to be doing them and was not going to give them to her. She said stuff about having taken acid and speed and other drugs so let her take them.

I think the girl was just tripping and was a bit sick and that her dad noticed and took her to hospital and because the doctors didn’t know they just pumped her stomach and it sounds a lot worse than it is. But could it be anything else?

[maletwickenham]

update: Swim was told off by the police which means the police are not more aware of these seeds Swim is sorry for bringing it too the attention. Swim did not get into too much shit though. Swim does however know he cannot talk to his friend again or the little girl lol.

[Alfa]

10 grams is why. This is double the dose for a normal person. The 14 year old girl was probably small built. correct? If so then this was about 3 doses for her. The actives, among which LSA is highly toxic at higher doses. LSA works as an anti-cholinergic at such doses. FUBAR was able to treat a very problematic LSA overdose with a pro-cholinergic food supplement. (the tale is described in one of my posts in this for. If you can find it, then please post here)

The second reason is that these seeds should not be eaten, but should only be consumed after an extraction. The idea of treated seeds is a fable. The seeds induce stomach cramps and womb cramps pretty well without being treated. This is why a Cold Water Extraction is absolutely needed, before morning glory seeds should be consumed.

[salviablue]

Yet another unfortunate case of 'RTFM'.
Unfortunately, a lot of swim have been there, done that and narrowly avoided the macabre t-shirt with one thing or another. But, alas, there are less excuses there days, esp with such excellent resources as this sight (see alfa, i did it again, unintentional play on words!)

I remember differently about the 'treated' seeds being a myth, something to do with helping germination/fending off disease or fungal 'damp-off' or some such iirc, which often i don't unfortunately! So i bow to your superior knowledge alfa. Its in my head the myth was a myth!?

Although swim reliably informed me that everytime s/he danced with the conv. It gave extreme leg (esp lower leg and ankle) and occasional stomach cramps.

[honourableone]

Originally Posted by Alfa

FUBAR was able to treat a very problematic LSA overdose with a pro-cholinergic food supplement. (the tale is described in one of my posts in this for. If you can find it, then please post here)

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...5&postcount=31

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graçias for digging that up

[maletwickenham]

Swim has 50 grams left and plans to just give them away after all of the police stuff the girl he is giving them to is a junkie who has not done it before but has done some stupid stuff ( inhaled hair dye). Swim has not have a way of grinding them up and she will likely just chew them Swim will make sure to follow alfas advice and tell her its best to put them into water although shes unlikely to listen. Swim will also tell her not to do the dosage she intends to do (6 or 8 grams) and stick to around 5 grams. She is quite skinny as she tends to not eat and just do drugs. but will tell her not to go over 5 grams. Thanks for the replies. I would leave rep but not allowed to leave thank you rep like that in this forum...

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incredibly irresponsible and dangerous.

[Mickeld]

If her health is being hurt by her drug usage instead of giving her more drugs how about giving her some help? Mayhaps what she needs is to quit the junk and get herself back together before she ingests anymore mind altering substances!

[Holyweed]

This case is very similar to SWIM case lol. Yesterday SWIM did the same thing, ate 10 grams o morning glory seeds, the only difference is that SWIM used the seeds after the extraction process, and ate them just in hope to feel a light trip. But well, after a few minutes SWIM began to feel a terrible nausea, started puking uncontrolably, and somehow felt SWIM would need to go to the hospital. But then after like 40-50 mins the nausea was gone completely, and then SWIM started having a very good experience which lasted for hours. The lesson SWIM took from this is that: Never ever eat the seeds and...do the extraction twice.

Holyweed added 1 Minutes and 40 Seconds later...

btw, why didn't you just say you thought she was 18??

[maletwickenham]

Swim thought he would note she was under 18. Swim is aware you should never never give drugs to under 18 year olds. This girl though really wanted to try them and her mate wanted her to. Swims junkie friend is not really got a problem just will do anything to get buzzing. Plus its her birthday so the rest of the bag won't be too much of a problem with her and her mates. She will know the risks Swim will tell her and She knows the girl that went to hospital kind of.

Swim does not make a habit of giving stuff to under 18 year olds. Swim would never give a under 18 year old their first drug. The young girl has done other stuff before. She has done bzp and weed.

Thanks again for your replies