Preparation - Making big ketamine rock crystals

[Liquidcande]

swim has liquid ket and has only ever used the microwave to prepare it. swim is thinking of cooking it for the first time using the hob, oven or other less harsh method, but wants to achieve bigger rocks like you would get from mdma. swim has bought ket like this before but this time wants to add food coloring to it.

can anyone advise? and yes. i have looked in the other topic and NO i havent found how to make rocks.

thanks in advance

[Sameria]

Just out of interest, why do you want to make rocks? You're just going to chop it up again anyway...

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM has left liquid K to slowly evaporate in an airing cupboard which left quite big completely clear diamond shaped crystals around 1-1.5cm long. However SWIM didn't really like having it in this form as it was a bitch to crush up. SWIM prefers to simply stick a plate under a grill or on top of a pan of boiling water and cook it over an hour or so. Or if he is feeling lazy he does it in a non-stick frying pan which can cook up a litre (50g) in under half an hour. The key when cooking K is to simply never let it boil. SWIM has used a microwave if he is in a hurry but doing it in the microwave boils the liquid causing a lot to spit out all over the microwave.

SWIM notices little if any difference in strength between methods although the slower cooked K is slightly less harsh on the nose. The microwave K is a lot harsher and probably does lose some potency compared to K cooked over an hour.

[coelho]

Originally Posted by psychedelaholic

SWIM has left liquid K to slowly evaporate in an airing cupboard which left quite big completely clear diamond shaped crystals around 1-1.5cm long.

Indeed... when making crystals of any substance by evaporation, as slower the evaporation is, larger and clearer the crystals get.

And colouring crystals is very hard, as crystals due their own nature tends to avoid that other substances (colouring substances included) enter their structure. Swiy can paint their surfaces, but their insides always remain clear.

[beizebopp]

Again, The slower the evapouration the bigger the crystals, SWIY could even try cooling the liquid and waiting even longer than same with room temperature.

[GloomyZombi]

why would you evaporate at all? if you pull the k into a syringe then pull the needle off you can snort the liquid without losing any and the liquid gets trapped less readily in your mucous membrane.

[Liquidcande]

Originally Posted by GloomyZombi

why would you evaporate at all? if you pull the k into a syringe then pull the needle off you can snort the liquid without losing any and the liquid gets trapped less readily in your mucous membrane.

and this works? ive never thought of doin it this way.. how much is needed for a bump then? how quickly does it hit you after, and how long does it last for? etc etc

[Sameria]

Originally Posted by Liquidcande

and this works? ive never thought of doin it this way.. how much is needed for a bump then? how quickly does it hit you after, and how long does it last for? etc etc

SWIM has used this method a few times. Although it does work better than oral, it is still nowhere as efficient as powder, and the solution can be quite uncomfortable in the nose.

[GloomyZombi]

actually if the powder is in solution you avoid wasting it to your mucous membrane, and it's a more even coating for you sinuses (ie. more absorption) so at max consentration the liquid is better than the powder

[Sameria]

Originally Posted by GloomyZombi

actually if the powder is in solution you avoid wasting it to your mucous membrane, and it's a more even coating for you sinuses (ie. more absorption) so at max consentration the liquid is better than the powder

One would think this, but in practise it is a lot messier than you would think, especially if you are redosing!