Opinions - Experimenting with Kava, Kratom and More - Advice for a newb?

[demon_candy]

Hello,

Demon recently has been going through researching information about various ethnobotanical drugs that are legal (in most places) in an attempt to find out as much as possible before embarking on her endeavor to try some of nature's lesser known mind-altering substances.

Demon has been wondering what sort to order online, and what would be the best for her experience as a newbie to this realm. Demon is pretty sure she will be ordering Kava Kava, Salvia Divinorium (which she has tried before), and Kratom. Demon was also contemplating Blue/White Lotus as well, but figure she may have only enough funds for the three.

In terms of Kava Kava, Demon had read that powdered root is the best. She recently bought a tincture at Whole Foods and tried 3 droppers full, with no effects, only mild sedation. So Demon figures that she may end up buying ground root paste from an online vendor she found, unless others have better advice.

Demon was curious, are there are forms of Kava others recommend? She has heard the way to consume it is with powdered root in a shake of some sort, but was wondering if others have tried other methods.

In terms of the Kratom, Demon has read a lot of talk about UEI, or Ultra Enhanced Indonesian Kratom. She has also heard of Indo Mash, but hasn't found much in the way of information on it. UEI seems to be a favorite of Kratom aficionados, but with so many types out there, it is difficult for her to figure what she should choose from. From the posts Demon has read, Bali Kratom seems to have more or a sedative effect, while UEI is more of a stimulant, and less of a dose is required for strong effects. Demon was contemplating ordering some of both, but was wondering if others have any advice, considering Demon has never tried it before. Demon has also read of Kratom extracts (and Kratom Resin), but is unsure about the effects of this, have others experimented with it? Also, Demon is assuming that Kratom is taken orally, but do others have any preferred preparation methods she could try? Demon knows that Salvia Divinorium is mainly consumed via smoking, but wonders if that is possible with Kratom as well, but perhaps not recommended for the best effects.

If any others have any suggestions about other legal herbs that might be good for Demon to try via online acquiring, and preferred preparation/dosage methods, or particular types (Bali/Thai Kratom vs UEI Kratom) Demon would greatly appreciate any advice. Thanks in advance!

[DaveDaPsychonaut]

A piece of advice for kava kava is to consume anti-oxidants (Such as green tea) before taking it because it gets oxidized by the liver like alcohol and anti-oxidants will reduce the stress on your liver.

[demon_candy]

Thanks, SWIM will definitely try that.

SWIM finally made her purchase online for 1 ounce of Maeng Da Thai Kratom, and 3 grams of UEI Kratom. (Both cost her about the same, lol.) She is pretty sure that both are in powdered form.

SWIM was wondering if anyone had any dosage or consumption method advice? She had read on the forums that having 4 hours between taking the Kratom and your last meal is recommended. She was wondering though if she should mix it in a hot/cold beverage, or just try to just eat it straight?

From what she assumes via research, SWIM thinks she will probably start out with either .5g of the UEI or 5 grams of the Maeng Da. Do any other SWIMs out there have any advice?

Thanks in advance!