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Old 26-07-2009, 20:54
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Recently it has seen some meth recrystallizing extremely slowly. In the area of 60 seconds to even begin to change from a pure liquid "oily/watery" appearance to a white crystal puddle. This process is very slow, and recrystallizes unevenly in a polka dot pattern. After around 3-5mins it will be fully recrystallized and completely solid white, with minimal 'veins' or 'webs' throughout.

Within about 30secons the puddle appears to be solid, however still resembling water. Not moving around like water, just looks clear. The puddle will not move when rotated.

When lit, it burns like normal meth; however, "softer" or "slower". Such as the hits look smaller as the bowl seems like it is not filling with a huge amount of rapidly spinning smoke.
Swim lazy to write so copy and paste.

If anyone dope take long time to recrystalize and look similar like the one swim quote when somking, is cut with n-isopropylbenzylamine hydrochloride. Recent report shows purity of ma-hcl when cutting with this agent is 10% or even less.

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Old 27-07-2009, 02:48
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Re: New cutting agent

Been showing up since last year, the chemical spoken of mimics meth. Here a link, have to replace the Xs with Ws. Since hotlinking to them bad boys is discouraged here!
XXX.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/journal_v6_num12/pg4.html

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thanks for the link, always forget about this, add it to the FAQ :)
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Old 27-07-2009, 19:50
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Re: New cutting agent

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Been showing up since last year, the chemical spoken of mimics meth
Swim didn't know until recently swim's friend been complain some rusbbish crap they bought and thought that this new cutting agent only happen this year.
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Old 27-07-2009, 20:00
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Re: New cutting agent

Old cowboy ran across this cut with some shit out of Mexico during his last encounter. Really sucks don't it..
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Old 27-07-2009, 20:47
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Re: New cutting agent

Swim provide somemore information..source from wiki. Swim wonder if it is so much alikely...maybe used it as a precusor. LolZ dreaming!

Isopropylbenzylamine is a structural isomer of methamphetamine, and has the same molar mass. It is also a secondary amine like methamphetamine, and forms salts in the same way.

Consequently it looks very similar to methamphetamine and has a similar melting point, and can be used to dilute methamphetamine without this being obvious to users, although some subtle differences such as slightly higher melting point and softer crystals may be apparent.

Isopropylbenzylamine is not thought to have any stimulant effects in its own right however, and its toxicity is unknown.




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Old 29-07-2009, 21:17
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Re: New cutting agent

that why now adays the meth from street only less than 10% due to this stupid cutting agent. Heard from those who smoke this junk said total useless and waste of $$$.
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Old 29-07-2009, 23:47
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Re: New cutting agent

Swim got a half-g of this crap a few weeks ago. Even after cooling the pipe with a rag and blowing on it, it took about 60 seconds before the dope started to crystallize opposed to about 5 or so seconds like normal stuff. It crystallized in that same polka dot fashion you spoke of, it would start crystallizing in tiny little spots then slowly move outward in circles. The dope swim usually gets (probably just ~50% street meth) just "freezes over" more or less all at once. Swim didn't notice any problems rolling the puddle, but it did hit softer than usual. Swim did get geeked up, but not as strong as usual. Real waste of money.

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Old 30-07-2009, 01:59
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Re: New cutting agent

Swim do not worry abt the cut but more worry towards "Isopropylbenzylamine is not thought to have any stimulant effects in its own right however, and its toxicity is unknown."
Since not much work on it...who knows that it might caused some serious damages later on. Swim might be walking on the streets...and out of sudden...collaping on floor with foam coming out of mouth.
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Old 30-07-2009, 12:15
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Re: New cutting agent

Next time before getting anything dope from the street must do a melting test on the spot. Swim consider cutting with msm is still forgiving but this junk, took 3 minutes to crack back.
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Old 30-07-2009, 23:21
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Re: New cutting agent

Swim swears he has seen this. Swim has heard it called leopard dope. FUCKIN ASS!
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Old 30-07-2009, 23:24
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Re: New cutting agent

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Swim swears he has seen this. Swim has heard it called leopard dope. FUCKIN ASS!
Don't that mean, run back and get some more, right....
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Old 30-07-2009, 23:27
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Re: New cutting agent

Swim heard from my friend that he got msm instead of ice. The dealer was never heard again....!! Imagined swiy might be needing it to suppress any urge and got shit instead. To make matter worst, that money is what swiy left for the month!!

If doing a melt test on the spot, swim will feel that swim is asking for trouble. If swiy dun trust the seller, why buy from him...? The seller might be offended too. In any case, the end user are the victims!
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Old 31-07-2009, 01:38
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Don't that mean, run back and get some more, right....
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Old 31-07-2009, 01:41
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Re: New cutting agent

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If doing a melt test on the spot, swim will feel that swim is asking for trouble. If swiy dun trust the seller, why buy from him...? The seller might be offended too. In any case, the end user are the victims!
Swim just joking for doing the meth test on the spot. Can't blame the seller cos they themselves also not the one who cook and add the cut into it, can grumble to the seller, ya some will conpensate small amount but it is still that same ass dope.


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Swim swears he has seen this. Swim has heard it called leopard dope. FUCKIN ASS!
It even have a nice name...lol like trixon say end user were always the victime haiz
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Old 31-07-2009, 20:09
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Re: New cutting agent

Swim felt that swimmers or swim in DF will lost double. Reason is that swim got the cookbook and knowledge but was unable to cook due to lack of materials and most impt cooking is not allowed at all! LOlz double the pain for the increased in knowledge.
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Re: New cutting agent

Urff.....Hi all, I'm new, this topic is actually how I found the forum (well, same subject, different thread- I found the forum months ago & only now decided to register).

Last bit of stuff SWIM got ahold of was exactly as described. Polkadots. SWIM hadn't seen that in at least 2 years, since she moved 1800 miles away from the low-lifes whose bags contained more splack than sparkle..... SWIM has usually never had a problem with the stuff she gets from her current source.

The worst part was that half the bag was good, and half was polka-dots.....neither SWIM or SWIMy Husband could easily tell the difference between the crap and the good stuff- and I'm told they had BIG pieces (1 inch to 1/2 inch long pieces, they'd bought a ball). Same color, clarity, same general shape, broke just as easily.....except the good pieces had very visible verticle "lines" whereas the crap did not. Only way to tell was to melt them down. Mixing the good with the bad helped the bowl not completely suck, I'm told.

SWIM noticed that the aforementioned stuff provided more of an "up" when swim had left it alone & gotten some normal sleep for a couple days. But if Swim was crashy and tried to smoke the polkadots, swim got nothing but a headache & dizzy feeling and wanted to go back to sleep

Guess no source is immune or perfect. SWIM thought her source's source had a direct connection to the chemist himself, but guess SWIM was wrong.
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Old 04-08-2009, 18:04
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Re: New cutting agent

swim have no problem get hold of the ingredient for cooking but had to stop as swim live in the city and now moving back with my parents so no choice got to stop taking meth and don't want to waste money buying those ass thing from the dealer and got to take back on ritalin and benzo to help the come down and minimize the side effect on meth.
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Old 07-08-2009, 22:06
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Re: New cutting agent

Another thing SWIM has noticed about leopard-cut dope is that it will create more smoke than something like MSM will. SWIM has blown out rather large clouds of leopard cut, but it has a unique taste which is unlike other kinds of cut. SWIM's girlfriend told him that the leopard dope was in rather large chunks and had a yellowish tinge. SWIMMERS should GET ON THIS and figure out what this 'new' cutting agent really is.
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Old 03-12-2009, 08:04
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Re: New cutting agent

swim said joint pills at G.N.C starts witha C can be crystalized
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Re: New cutting agent

Swim just had some of this right now and noticed that after taking a hit, Swim's pipe was sort of cold to the touch.

weird.
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Re: New cutting agent

SWIM thinks he may have some of this but isn't totally sure. It seems like if he goes a few days or longer without hitting the pipe then when he hits his stuff, it hits pretty well. But usually just the first set of hits. After that the hits aren't as potent either later in the day or especially if he does it the next day. He still feels pretty good, talkative, same similar effects, etc. But smoking just doesn't seem to provide the strong euphoric sensation unless it's been a while since he last used.

SWIM figured this is just normal. After all it's been like 10 years since he used the stuff on a regular basis. But now after reading all this stuff, he wonders if maybe he's in the same boat.

Only thing, though, is that his stash does recrystallize fairly quickly and not as slow as has been described in this threat. So maybe he doesn't fall into this category at all.

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Re: New cutting agent

swim gets some cut every other time. swim gets very annoyed at this. swim might as well drink starbucks. swim can tell when its cut, it has a distinctive taste also burns slower and doesn't burn up too fast. any ideas what swims smoking?
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Re: New cutting agent

O man this stuff Has been all over the place where swim lives like its everywhere

when swin first encounters this crap swim called it Freckles Yes FrecKles is no good the definition of nope dope
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Re: New cutting agent

swim also comes across this problem and never has before. for the past 3 months 3/5 times, and is super pissed over spending $...looks, smells, tastes fine. sometimes polka dotted. recrystalizes fine ( not as slow as posted. ) same as john.. only after an hour does swim realize not too high..the whomp. sober and pissed. can stil sleep and eat. have a slight buzz..talkative..focused. not worth $. swim is switching to esspresso. Is there any way to test? melt test wouldnt work due to it crystalising fine.. there has to be a better way to tell if good?????. suppliers dont use so swim believes they might be interested in testing as well. .. what region is this problem predominent? swim is in sw..
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Re: New cutting agent

SWIM has noticed same problem, in fact was searching through thread/posts to see if anyone else has come across this. SWIM noticed same traits- drys REALLY slow with spots appearing in the clear puddle during the process, solid white when finally dry, and not as much smoke forming. SWIM has experienced this off and on over he last few months from same dealer. SWIM says first bowl is usually different, actually good-almost like it's somehow planned that way so not noticeable at first, although that seems impossible. SWIM has figured out that the larger/heavier crystals come out first when pouring into the bowl and these are the good/real pieces. The rest is the same cut that is described throughout this thread. SWIM thinks maybe dealer got a batch of this at one point and when running low decides to sell this with a little of the better stuff that they might have on hand at that time. That is just based on how SWIM's experience has went with the aforementioned "freckles" cut.

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