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Old 25-07-2009, 17:31
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SWIM's personal info: about 5' 11" and 200 lbs

SWIM tried HBWR seeds for the first time this morning and had some questions about interactions with other drugs he is on and side effects. He would like others advice/opinions on his experience and what went wrong and why. THis was his first experience with any type of psychedelic before , and he has searched before posting but found no info relative to his personal concerns.

1) Preperation and experience.
Prep: Crushed 5 seeds with pliers, soaked in lemon juice for hour, added some cool water later and left overnight
Ingested liquids and solids at 11:30 in the morning. SWIM didnt know what to expect and he smoked some salvia a few minutes prior to this. COuld this have affected anything?
After about 1 hour, he began to feel very naussious but did not vomit, and it went away after eating some pizza (Was taken on empty stomach). After a while, SWIM's legs began to cramp up and it was very uncomfortable, but he was dealing with it. Nothing turned blue throughtout.
Colors might have been enhanced slightly, but SWIM wasnt sure if this was a placebo or not. Was also more content than usual everyday apathy SWIM suffers from, but again, placebo possible. Memory was greatly affected, short term and long term (as in that day) No hallucinations, neither visual or auditory.
Not sure if anything happened honestly, but SWIM did have fun wandering around his farm more than usual. Felt loss of inhibitions as well. The euphoria and confusion Didnt seem worth the leg cramps (been 12 hrs and he still feels it) and nausia though.

2) Medications that SWIM is on: ambien for insomnia, abilify 2mg at night for paranoia, and an SNRI for depression. Could any of these have interacted/counteracted the seeds? Is it dangerous for SWIM to take HBWR seeds while on these?

3) SWIM would like others opinions on if he should or shouldnt take them again, and if so, what dosage and way of consumation would SWIY recommend? Have searched but would like personal opinions

4) He would also like to know if there is a way to counteract the vascoconstriction that causes the leg cramps. SWIM has heard niacin may help, but would like more information. Once again he has searched for this info but hasnt found anything useful and would like personal experience if possible.

SWIM thanks you for your time and hopes he can get some honest opinions and good information.

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Old 25-07-2009, 19:18
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Re: Should SWIM give HBWR another try?

MY FERRET HAS AN IMMENSE TOLLERANCE TO ANY TYPE OF HALLUCINAGEN.

that being said, he finds HBWR to be a 'worthwhile' trip on no less than 30 "decent" seeds, and says he only reached +++ when ingesting more than 50 seeds similarly extracted.

he says you will vomit if you do take that much.

I'd say "so easy to get for a reason", but I know better.
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Re: Should SWIM give HBWR another try?

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2) Medications that SWIM is on: ambien for insomnia, abilify 2mg at night for paranoia, and an SNRI for depression. Could any of these have interacted/counteracted the seeds? Is it dangerous for SWIM to take HBWR seeds while on these?
Yes, SNRI's might have interactions with LSA similar as they have with LSD. Read the topics about it in the LSD sub-forum and search there also for the other medications.

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4) He would also like to know if there is a way to counteract the vascoconstriction that causes the leg cramps. SWIM has heard niacin may help, but would like more information. Once again he has searched for this info but hasn't found anything useful and would like personal experience if possible.
You misspelled vasoconstriction maybe that's why you didn't get any results. There's plenty of information around, look at: Things that go good with morning glorys
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Old 28-07-2009, 02:24
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Yes, SNRI's might have interactions with LSA similar as they have with LSD. Read the topics about it in the LSD sub-forum and search there also for the other medications.
SWIM thanks you and never thought about looking in the lsd forums (never made the connection). He has decided the risk of serotonin syndrome isnt worth it.
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Re: Should SWIM give HBWR another try?

Swim ate 6 seeds for the first time, chewing them pretty good and then smoked some weed 2 hours ago but he still doesn't feal that much. Should he try taking like another 10 but crush them up real good in a few hours? Hes looking to trip hard. Colors are slightly different, Every thing is kinda dreamy and some time he laughs allot.
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