Experiences - For SEEDS what is better, shaking in a bottle or heat+stir?

[apiffini]

SWIM would also like to know? is it better to use a double boiler to prevent burning seeds on the bottom of the pot?

[timster7]

SWIM would pour the heated water in a bottle and shake the seeds. The seeds act almost like an abrasive on each other and really get all the alkaloids off the surface. It may not be necessary, but that's what SWIM does and gets pretty good results.

[waltz#2]

SWIY will get oils and crap in there with the seeds too. Just use more water than advised while letting it sit for longer (SWIM lets his sit for about an hour, shaking on and off) and either nut up and drink it, or iceolate/cook it down.

[xSarahJ]

Just put some hot (Not boiling. Like veryyy warm tap water) in a big ass jar (slightly covering the seeds) and make sure swiy put some lemon juice in it to change the pH to the right level for morphine, then shake for 5-7 minutes and filter

Worked for swim every time.
Swiy are just getting the alkaloids off the surface.

[Devotchka]

SWIM just puts 2 lbs. of seeds in a 2 liter bottle, then fills it up with lemonade and shakes for a little over 5 min. works great every time. a lot of work with the seeds really isn't necessary.

[timster7]

Seeds are always a second rate source for a buzz. There is no "best way" to do it. SWIYou can use any of these with about the same results. It's more about preference.