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Old 22-07-2009, 02:15
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Advice on passing Hair Follicle Drug Test for oxycodone

Swim is sorry if this is in the wrong place, he is still new to this great site. Swim currently is in a dilema. He has a hair follicle test coming up in exactly one week. Problem- he used oxycodone about once a week for the past 2-3 months. Should swim go for the shampoos? They are like 60-70 bucks, but its a dier situation. Or should swim just pray for the best. Any advice or previous experience would make swim just feel great!!
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Re: Advice on Hair Follicle Drug Test

at this point, the shampoos could be the only thing that returns a clean test. it will be evident that swiy has been taking drugs. swim doesnt know if the shampoos work, but she is aware that some of the oral flushes work for urine tests, so she cant see why the shampoos wouldnt work.

taken from this thread... http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/sho...hlight=shampoo

2.5 Hair testing: When THC metabolites are in the blood, they go through
the blood vessels in the head, and get filtered through the hair. THC
metabolites remain in the hair as a permanent record. The hair test costs
several hundred dollars ($150-$300) and is rarely given because urinalysis
is cheaper (approximately $65) and more accurate. (The hair test equipment
and setup goes for over a million). According to Jeff Nightbyrd, hair
tests are "widely used in the casino industry." They cut 50 strands of
hair from the scalp, and send it in to the testing lab where they liquefy
it. "A hair sample is disolved in a series of solvents which extract the
drug metabolites and then are analyzed via GC/MS." It can take several
hours to days just to extract metabolites. Average hair grows 1/4 inch per
month. Typically they just use hair one and a half inches from the scalp;
though some labs will take enough to test for up to 3 years. The liquid is
run through the most sensitive GC/MS machines available, and can detect as
little as 1 ng/mL! The hair test discriminates in that detection is easier
in dark hair. Colored people may be discriminated against further because
melanin is in their hair, which can be mistaken for THC. However, there is
conflicting data as to whether melanin can be detected as THC.
Psychemedics Corporation has a PDT90 kit for $75. This home test kit is
for parents that want to chop off a lock of their child's hair to find out
what drugs s/he is using. Kids- lock your bedroom doors at night if your
parents don't trust your judgment on the drug issue.

Beating the hair test is extremely hard, and there are false positives.
Bleaching or dying your hair is rumored to work, but it doesn't. I imagine
you can shave every hair on your body and claim that you're a swimmer.
According to NORML, Aloe Rid by Nexus is a shampoo that will aid in testing
????: Drugs Forum http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2930
negative. Aloe Rid is available only in salons. Healthy Hair, from Sampson
Health Products, is another shampoo designed to beat the hair test.
Healthy Hair is sold in retail stores throughout Las Vegas. Keith Thrash
from Sampson Health Products reccommends precleansing with Aloe Rid prior
to using Healthy Hair. Healthy Hair is used in the morning and before
going to bed. Each session takes 20 minutes. According to Steve at
Sampson Health Products, two out of a thousand people failed the hair test
when using Healthy Hair. Byrd Labs is currently developing a shampoo to
defeat the hair test. Some have suggested treating hair with oil because
THC is oil based and oil soluble. However, there is no proven way to beat
the hair test, so it's all heresay and guessing at this point. (If anyone
has any success with the shampoos or the swimmer excuse, please let me
know). Swimming and washing your hair removes toxins, and Keith Thrash
recommends doing both as much as possible. Fortunately, the hair test
cannot be used alone as evidence because there are no forensic standards.
It can only be used when substantiated by other evidence. Also, there are
no intoxication standards. I believe if you tested positive for the hair
test that you would probably have a good chance of fighting it.
(BlockBuster Video uses the most up-to-date equipment, and passing such a
test can be difficult). It takes several months of precleansing to beat
the tests given by Psychemedics.
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Re: Advice on Hair Follicle Drug Test

What is the hair test for? Hair tests cannot be used to punish you for certain things because they are known to be unreliable and prone to false positives (in the USA). Do you know what substances will be tested for? Need more info to give ya a good answer.
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Re: Advice on Hair Follicle Drug Test

Opiates (oxycodone to be more specific)
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U.S.-What you should know before taking a hair follicle drug screen.

Hair or hair follicle drug testing is the more effective of the five main types of drug tests. Aside from urine and blood tests, a drug test may be administered by obtaining samples of sweat and saliva. However, the latter of these two tests are prone to inaccuracies. Hair tests are quick, relatively easy, and can accurately detect drug use up to 90 days from the last use and beyond.
An employer or agency that administers the test may have different procedures which may be subject to state or local laws regarding employee drug testing. Failing a random hair test could result in a denial of coverage with an insurance agency or job loss. However, an employee may sometimes be given the option to keep their job by discontinuing drug use and entering treatment.

How does the test work?
A hair follicle test works by using enzyme-immunoassay (EIA) confirmed by GC/MS, to measure the levels of drug metabolites stored in the hair follicles as well as those that have become permanently encased in the hair shaft after the body has processed a drug.

Obtaining the hair sample.
A hair sample must be taken. A small amount of hair is needed, usually between 40 and 60 milligrams (50-120 strands depending on hair type). The hair sample strands also need to be 1.5 inches long (approximately 3.9 centimeters), and should be cut as close to the scalp as possible. It should be placed in a plastic tube or bag inside of an envelope for proper transport. If someone’s hair is thinning or balding, a hair sample can be gathered from a combination of head and body hair. Body hair samples cannot include pubic hair.

Depending on the length and growth rate of hair, drugs can be detected for up to a year after use. However, testing after the standard accepted 90 day period is a slippery slope that can lead to numerous errors.
Studies indicate that hair collected at the crown of the head grows on the average approximately 1.3 cm (or 1/2 inch) per month. This growth rate varies among people (estimated at .2 cm per month, iSO), so consequently the same 3.9 cm length of hair can represent different time periods.

Testing
Once the hair sample has reached the lab, it is prepared using various methods before undergoing the screening process. Results can be determined in just a matter of days depending on sample preparation. Hair follicle tests can screen for cocaine, PCP, opiates, marijuana, ecstasy, and methamphetamines. When a drug is consumed by smoking, snorting, injecting, or other methods, the body produces metabolites while the drug is being processed through the bloodstream. As drugs circulate in the blood stream, they enter and nourish hair follicle cells. As cells grow, they trap the drug molecules within the hair cells and are eventually "sealed" in the keratinized hair shaft. Thus, the amount and time the drug(s) are in the blood stream is proportional to the amount of drug detected in the hair.

Currently, nicotine, methadone, simple benzodiazepines, tricyclic antidepressants, assays, and mescaline have been detected in hair. However, many details such as cutoff levels and dose response relationships have not yet been established for these compounds. Hair follicle testing is also less sensitive for marijuana, so tests for carboxy-THC may require alternate preparation methods. It is stated that a hair follicle screen for marijuana use is 'approximately' as effective as a urine drug screen.

Pros of Hair Follicle Drug Testing
-Can effectively detect drugs for up to 90 days
-Donor friendly
-Easy to store
-Difficult to adulterate
-Highly accurate
-Non-invasive

Cons of Hair Follicle Drug Testing
-Results are not instant, as samples must be sent to a lab
-Does not detect very recent drug use (of up to 1 – 1.5 weeks)
-Costs more than urine or saliva drug testing

There is a bit of a controversy surrounding hair follicle drug testing. Studies have found dark-haired people are more likely to test positive because they have higher levels of melanin, which allows drug compounds to bind more easily to their hair. It has also been stated that hair color has been shown experimentally to have "no basis in fact in a court of law", but SWIM can find no documentation in this regard. Although drugs that are deposited on the hair shafts by any means are considered external contaminants and are removed prior to the testing for drug metabolites, it has been speculated that a dark haired person who may have had some kind of environmental exposure to a drug, but did not use the drug themselves (like a police officer for instance), could be at risk for testing positive.

*There was a case in Boston in which seven police officers all tested positive for cocaine due to occupational exposure. Six of the seven former officers had a second hair test conducted that came back negative within days of the positive result. All drug tests were analyzed by a different laboratory and all came back negative. Due to the fact that only drug metabolites are tested for, SWIM doesn't see how this is possible but figured he would mention it just the same.

There is much debate over whether it is possible to beat a hair follicle drug test. Hair cleansing shampoos and products are popular among those trying to beat the test in order to land a job, or keep themselves from landing in jail. While many of these products claim to guarantee a negative test result, many are simply scams to get you to spend money. Drugs are deposited in the hair follicle, and in the hair strand itself. These are places where even the strongest of shampoos just don't go. It has been shown that extensive bleaching, perming, and/or dyeing may damage the protein matrix of hair. However, a portion of the drug can still be extracted, resulting only in a lower final quantitative result with certain drugs. The only probable way to not detect drug use in a hair test, would be to shave all the hair from ones body. Of course, if one were to shave their head and body prior to testing, it may appear a little suspicious.

Please feel free to post additional facts, data, or personal experiences on this subject, as well as point out any omissions or errors.
Thanks!

More hair testing questions and answers can be found at
http://www.sacsconsulting.com/qa.htm

*The Boston Globe (Boston, MA) | July 27, 2005| Diane E. Lewis Globe Staff


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