Experiences - Hawaiian Baby Woodrose experiences

[malbulja]

SWIM tried HBWR seeds again for the 2nd time in 10 years a few weeks ago. The first time he did a tedious chemical extraction and had the worst experience of his life (10 seeds). No LSD like effects at all and extremely painful stomach cramps, nausea, dizziness, and diarrhea.

The 2nd time (2 weeks ago) SWIM tried the same water extraction he used for Rivea seeds (which was incredibly awesome) and experienced the same horrible effects and no LSD effects (8 seeds).

SWIM tells me he's done with MG and HBWR seeds forever and will stick with Rivea.

[hoodbran]

Agree 100% - after swims experience above he tried 4 more times and got NOTHING - perhaps a placebo effect and coupled with 160proof alky created his feeling, he is done with HBWR and MG seeds, though still has to try rivea, what effect did swiy get from rivea? - btw it's INCREDIBLY easy to grow shrooms and they work ALL THE TIME - swim is 2 weeks in to his 1st grow and already has 50% colonisation, he has b+ mazatapec and cambodian p.cubensis

Peace.

[malbulja]

what effect did swiy get from rivea?

Of course it's difficult for SWIM to put into words but here goes: The rivea trip lacked all of the nausea/sickness of MG/HBWR but included the intensity and introspection of magic mushrooms. For the first several hours SWIM felt highly euphoric and couldn't control laughing like a hyena with down syndrome. The peaks went up and down in waves. No visuals but SWIM felt a deep connection with his existence and his insignificant place in the universe. The introspection and deep thought came after the 5 hours of laughter and the opiate like high began to subside.

The Rivea seeds are tiny and legal and since one only needs 80-100 of these tiny seeds, SWIM tells me they're perfect for vacations and business trips.

SWIM would love to know more about how to start growing shrooms. Perhaps SWIY could point him in the right direction.

[hoodbran]

absolutely! swim suggests visiting xxxxxxxx, there's a wealth of info, for swiy here's a quick breakdown;

Gourmet mushrooms (of the type oyster and portobello, p.cubensis (psychoactive) too) all begin life as a fungus base in horsepoo or cowpoo, along come spores from the winds and they land on this natural warm nutrient rich base, they germinate... Fortunately for man, we can recreate that habitat by using simple HH items, mason jars are great! - since we dont want real poo in the home we use brown rice flower mixed with vermiculite and sterilize the sucker in a pressure cooker or steaming pot for like 90 minutes, while during which time swiy can obtain spores from the internet (sporeworks.com many other vendors are available) - of course it's illegal to cultivate these spores, so they sell them on the understanding you are gonna look at them thru a microscope, next is to innoculate the sterilized jar, then wait, afterwards swiy would 'birth' the colonised cake and let it fruit, time to 0 hour = ~ 18-30 days - naturally as this is all hypothetical you should never grow active shrooms cos it's against the law however swiy would have a never ending supply of gourmet treats for swiy's steak! - it's possible to grow 100's lbs from 1 spore and most spores suppliers supply millions at once (they're microscopic)... swiy will find TONS of help and teks, hope this helps - there's some big words in there and may put swiy off, there's no need for special equipment, most of all swiy already may have..

[twitehell messenger]

THIS WAS WRITTEN BY MY FRIEND JOE AND COPIED TO HERE THIS IS HIS EXPERIENCES ON HBWR...

-first time-
i was at my friends house for the weekend on a friday and i had just finished a hard days work ready to kick back and relax, that was sure to happen. on arrival out of my pocket came a small bag containing 50 hbwr seeds as i put down my 12 VBs and bottle of vodka on the table. i spilt 8 seeds out into my hand and almost my mate asked what they were. i informed him and he asked if he could join in. without hessitation i asked how many and poured out 5 as he requested. brought out with me was a box of peppermint tea bags for the soon to be experienced trip mix. cracking open my vodski and pouring 4 shots out, 2 each and we were off. i went to the kettle boiled it, crunched up my 8 and spat em in my cup, my friend (i wil refer to him as fred) i mean fred did the same only in his cup. letting the kettle cool for about 10 mins i added the water and tea bag and suger. we decided to leave it for half an hour and have some drinks and a bowl. we downed 2 beers and some cones and sat and watched a bit of the sopranos havin a good wait out. after the 30 mins we went back to our potions and mixed speedily and both skulled our brews... it was soon to begin.

T+00.10
we ventured back to his room which is quite spacious and sat on the couch while some deicide played in the background on the ps3. we talked about how good this was gunna be cause it had been about 2 years since we had a good amout of lsd to go round and i was under the impression this would be similar. i informed him he might feel a little bit sick but that it wouldent be bad unless he thought about it heaps and i told him weed helped (i had done a little bit of researching before i did this i will not be responsible for a friends death or having them angry for misinforming them) so we proceeded to have 2 more shots each and a couple more cones. i then ducked out for a ciggarete.

T+00.40
i was starting to feel a bit different but it was barely detectible and fred said he felt the same way. by this stage we had some cradle of filth cranking and it was good the trippy sound i love them when im sober (not very often) but even more when im effected. fred said he was starting to feel a bit sick but he held back i tried to distract him and it worked. by this stage i was feeling the sickness but had to hold back. the feelings were getting a bit stronger and i found myself moving my hands back and forth on my legs it felt good. i went outside for another cig and looked at the cactus garden, its fkn awesome.

T+01.15
i returned inside after ajusting to the feeling inside i had just sat looking at the garden for 20mins or so when i got back into the cave, there was fred wide eyed with huge dilated pupils he had put on fear and loathing in las vegas and was staring intensly. are ya feeling it bro i said to fred as i walked in. he looked over at me and told me he was feeling different and trippy and everything seemed a bit odd. as for me i was definattally tripping and i sat and rubed my legs again and suddenly got a overwhelming feeling to smile. i skulled back a beer and continued to watch the movie. the phrase this is bat country was said on the dvd and it gave me an erge to jump up and repeat the phrase a real nice rush of energy flowed through me as i said it laughing afterwoulds thats what it felt like for some reason it made sence. the walls were quite odd to look at as they were covered in posters, my favourite was the 'mind warp' one i watched and played with that while watching the movie. fred soon said we should go for a walk to the dams and get outside for a bit, i thought it was a great idea.

T+01.50
we got outside and the light was intence (it was still daytime) and we marched on for about a km the dags bolting back and forth along the path. i felt quite in touch with my feelings and was having a really good feeling about life in general and even went for a run with the dog.

T+02.30
when we got back another friend arrived (called john) and he saw that we were off our trees and asked what we had. i immediattally grabed out 8 seeds and handed them to him as john is a big guy and told him the precidure, he was very keen and began to make it in the kitchen. fred and i had another 3 shots in this time. and quickly smoked some more cones and added some dream herb to the mix, that didnt have any great results. john returned with his tea and skulled it down. i thought about some raw opium i had in my car and decided to go and get it wanting to feel something a bit more. i was thinking really clear and things like actions of my friends and ways they moved all meaned somwthing and i knew the reasons they were doing this.

T+03.00
i returned with the opium and john was getting restless and moving more than normal saying i think i know what this is gunna be like. i pulled out my test tube for opium smoking and lit up a good ball. it felt quite good but made me get the desire to sit still and just take everything in it was quite interesting just watching fred play gta 4 and insanely murder civilians i offered him some opium but only a small ball as he had never tried it. he smoked it back but didnt like it very much and went outside and vomited from the taste he said. i then offered john a medium ball as he was getting quite overactive/nervous he had tried it and this calmed his nerves and he never complained of feeling sick after this point.

T+04.00
some more vodka was drant as the boys joined me in some shots we were all feeling quite good now and almost on the same level i felt, so next out came some more dope and we all loved it high in conversation. all with smiles hanging high we put on some prodigy (the best techno out there in my opinion) and continued talking about reasons for living the way we do and how it feels so good to be free and have our own true experiences and also talk from experiences not from books. we all came to the conclusion that all the 'bricks in the wall' out there are very closed minded people that choose to live by the news the soup operas and books they read always reamaining in the wall and never seeing other sides of life. this was great as i deep down like talking about my inner feelings, im no hippy i hate all those extremest tree huggers but i did have a lot inside that i felt was not counted as scientific evedence but wisdom given to me at birth.

i dont know how long we sit there but i was passed out in my chair when i woke up early in the morning about 11 hours later i was still mildly tripping but found my way to bed and fel to sleep having nice dreams about this good experience.

when fred awoke he told me of a dream of an old gilfriend he had visiting him.

john drove home just after i fell asleep said he saw animals everywhere but got home safely.

since then i have always had good experiences with hbwr with one exception but i have had them about 5 times now i feel i gain a mild sort of lession when i have them and cant wait to have them on the next viable occasion.

peace out and stay safe

WRITTEN BY JOE

[Hinty]

Swim and Swim's friend named E each took seven seeds on a school trip. They crushed the seeds up and ingested them with orange juice. As they were walking around the Pittsburgh Contemporary art museum the seeds started to kick in. Now a contemporary art museum is probably the best place to be. Swim remembers staring at two particularly interesting pictures for the entire trip. Upon returning to the hotel they used two iPods two create "mixes" of different songs. They took one ear phone from one iPod and one from the other so two different songs were being played at the same time. They mixed up different genre's from classical, house, jazz, and rock. With eye's closed Swim pictured images similar to windows media player visualizations. If Swiy is going to try these seeds Swim would recommend having something to focus on like music or people rather than just sitting because your mind will wander to the nausea.

[wisol]

Swim first tried HBWR about a year and a half ago. swim recieved 25 seeds and he and two friends had 8 each. after scraping the coating grinding them in a herb grinder, swim ate the seeds and washed them down with water. It is worth mentioning that swin and friends were also smoking alot of skunk at the time. This may have reduced the nausea alot because swim and 1 friend barely felt it. another friend induced vomitting and said that the nausea dissapeared after that. It was a very slow come up about 2 hours or so. after that swim and friends found themselves laughing hysterically for hours over nothing. swim doesn't take chemicals but one of his friends compared the experience to pills. No one experienced any hallucinations, but a good time was had by all. swim has tryed HBWR several times since then in varying dose sizes but has been unable to replicat the experience.

[Routemaster Flash]

SWIM had a nightmare trip on THREE hbwr seeds. They must have been incredibly strong, is all SWIM can say - and SWIM has no reason to think he's especially a 'lightweight' when it comes to psychedelics, having used strong psilocybin mushrooms, bufotenin and various other bits and bobs over the years. SWIM's friend who gave him the seeds said she had the strongest trip she'd ever had from six of them, and this is a woman who's *highly* experienced with LSD, mushrooms, ketamine and god knows what.

But then they're a natural, unprocessed plant product, so they're bound to be unpredictable in terms of potency.

[tecklord]

SWIM has been experimenting with morning glory and hawaiian baby woodrose for many years.

He never bothered with removing any outer husk/shell or white fuzz/coating and so on as many people blabber on about as he dont see any point of doing that from his experiences. They work fine as they are and doing that would be a heck of a job.

Normally he do not puke, though somewhat nauseated for a small period of time. He only puked one time on Hawaiian baby woodrose (yesterday in fact) but he thinks that was mostly due to being psychologically influenced by his friend whom was puking.

In either case, SWIM finds hawaiian baby woodrose extremely enjoyable and potent, very visual and psychedelic. Usually 3 to 7 seeds does a good trick. He never took more than 8.

The first effects normally start coming on within 30 minutes, he notices colors more alive and vibrating, for example looking at the computer screen and text and colors there will start becoming pulsating by this time.

Fulll effects however usually starts 2-3 hours after consuming the seeds. Then it becomes very psychedelic and visual and he see wonderful things and get a great connection with nature. Lots of tracers on anything that moves, such as birds flying by. Trees and nature become more alive, more like entities / beings rather than "just plants". They get a specific and very certain feature about them, a waving, a look that is quite special from anything else. A lot of "morphing" effects when looking at things, specially up close such as paintings or patterns and etc, or the reflection in a mirror of oneself. He feel quite jolly and laughs a lot and have a very nice time.

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by tecklord

He never bothered with removing any outer husk/shell or white fuzz/coating and so on as many people blabber on about as he dont see any point of doing that from his experiences. They work fine as they are and doing that would be a heck of a job.

Thanks for sharing your experience, it's a very positive one.

Remove of the outer shell/white fuzz takes a couple of minutes using a knife, and use a lighter to burn any remnants off quickly. Seems to reduce nausea and stomach upset.

[LishaM01]

SWIM just took 4 seeds (newbie) with ginger ale and nauzene to hopefully handle the debilitating nausea. SWIM took it at 4:38 and is sitting waiting to see what happens, will continue...(SWIM is playing SIMS 2). 5:09 pm, SWIM is feeling a little sluggish but nothing major. SWIM is gonna stop playing SIMS 2 and gonna play Call Of Duty World at War. 6:19 SWIM is experiencing some spacial(?sp) distortions but nothing major again, beginning to think he didn't eat enough compared to last time when he ate too much. Gonna watch Chuck in 3D. 7:14 nothing, SWIM feels nothing, just tired. So, 6 seeds makes SWIM sick, 4 does nothing. SWIM can't win.

[Garethn]

swim had taken 2 capsuals late at night wen stoned felt nothing then took another 4 crushed up badly with the outer shell on and felt nuffin swim then got stoned sum more and fell asleep swim woke up in the middle of the night trippin balls with savage tummy pains this was swims worse trip by far swim hated every second of it.....

[thepieman1]

So SWIM bought 40 Hawian strain HBWR seeds off the internet recently.

Last night he performed the following cold water extraction and drank the results:

1. Roughly ground up 6 seeds as fine as he could get with the back of a spoon on a hard surface.

2. Squeezed the juice of half a lemon into about 500ml of water (wasn't planned to be that amount, it just turned out to be) and refrigerated it.

3. Cut open a teabag, poured out the contents and put in the ground seeds. Tied up with a piece of string.

4. Put the teabag in the lemon-water for about an hour, stirring vigorously every 5-10 minutes.

5. Removed the teabag and strained the liquid through a piece of cloth.

The dose was consumed over a period of about 15 minutes beginning at 8:30PM. He had a larger than usual lunch at about 1PM but had eaten very little since then.

SWIMs friend came round at about 10 minutes later and was interested when SWIM told him about the seeds. At this point SWIM was already feeling "different" and soon after noticed his pupils had dilated a lot.

After the first hour SWIM was feeling the full effects. There was quite a bit of nausea and "body load" due probably to vascular constriction. The effects reminded him of psilocybin mushrooms to an extend but much less visual.

There was some paranoia at one point about the side effects but that slowly subsided and he began feeling very happy. His mind was working very different from normal.

SWIMs friend then left so he talked for a bit on IRC but found it hard to concentrate on typing. He was getting quite fidgety and agitated so he turned all the lights off, got in a comfortable chair and watched The Wonderland Experience which he had seen before but never under the influence of anything. It was great and got SWIM really "in the zone".

At one point, maybe between 11PM and 11:30PM swim was starting to get mild ego death and restlessness and decisiveness. The ego death wasn't as powerful as under as dissociative but simply the normal train of thought beginning to dissolve away. He drank some milk and started to feel a bit more normal and it also seemed to help with some of the physical effects.

SWIM was very high for a couple more hours after that and discovered how much he liked Mike Oldfield. He tried drawing but was having more fun moving pencils across the page (one in each hand) than actually making anything meaningful.

Most of the effects had subsided by about 2AM (certainly not compleatly though) and he got to sleep about 2:45AM.

All in all a good experience. He may try a higher dose the next time although he isn't sure. Probably will dose with other people now he has some experience.

edit: Also SWIM would find any comments about the extraction he used helpful.

[Joel2k11]

SWIM wrote to me a while ago explaining a trip he experienced with HBW, it was interesting stuff.

This is what he wrote:

I had heard these would perhaps give me a trip akin to a mild LSD trip. As i had no acid available at the time (although I'm not an experienced user by any means), these seemed like the best alternative.

17:00 - Got all the fury stuff off the seeds and washed them to make sure no nasty chemicals were left over. Chewed 10 seeds up and washed them down with coke. Pretty nasty tasting but not gag-inducing.

17:10 - 17:20 - I start feeling a little nausea which got worse over about 10 minutes - took a trip to the toilet but wasn't sick. Came back to my room and sat down.

17:30 - 18:00 - Feeling really sick at this point, thought I'd have a lie down to hopefully reduce the discomfort, also turned the light off hoping for some CEV's. This is when the effects started to kick in. I noticed my window was slightly open - I could feel the wind coming through. Suddenly I felt almost a tremor that seemed to go through my mind - kinda of felt like a drum beating. This carried on for about half an hour and seemed to co-incide with when the wind would come through the window.

18:00-19:30 - After the "mind tremors" stopped, I guess the CEV's started, but these weren't just pretty colours, it was more of a lucid dreaming state, while still being aware that i was awake. Anything I imagined seemed to be real in my mind, I guess you could say that i created an alternate universe every 5 minutes or so, each interrupted with the realisation i was lieing awake on my bed.

19:30 - 20:30- After the end of the lucid dreaming state, the CEV's become the more typical brightly coloured things, in my case they seemed to be cogs rotating with mice inside each one. My flat mate knocked on my door, so I answered, he asked me if i wanted to go down to the pub. I said no as I was enjoying my self just fine. I knew one of flat mates was still here incase something were to go wrong. After he left I turned the light back on in my room. Instantly I noticed an incredibly light feeling. Movement seemed easy and for a while I just walked around admiring the feeling. I ate a few pringles, my taste didn't seem any different from normal. Once again I went to the toilet, which seemed to be the funnest trip to the toilet i ever had. I was laughing the entire way there and back, for no reason. I went on my laptop for a while - telling a close friend about the seeds, and how great they were!

20:30 - 23:00 - This part of the trip did not seem to be 2.5 hours, it seemed more like an hour to me... After I got bored with losing my laptop I decided to turn the light off again and lie in bed for a while. In the dark I seemed to be getting OEV's. The most obvious was the fire alarm in my room usually blinks about every 20 seconds with 2 red dots, but now it appeared to be blinking continuos rainbow colours in a single dot. Looking back at it this probably kept me entertained for close to an hour. When i finally accepted that I was actually hallucinating, and my fire alarm was blinking weird colours, I looked around the room, everything seemed to be made up of little blue cirles, red on the inside, that spun randomly. I noticed that my flatmates were listening to some loud rave type music from the kitchen. The music seemed to some how make the circles, I don't know erm..kind of warp my room with the music, if it was a slow part of the song, the circles would gently move in a wave like motion. If the music was faster they would just move around randomly, kinda like brownian motion. The music seemed to go on for ever, and I lay there admiring the visuals for a while.

23:00 - 1:00 - The music stopped so I decided to get up and walk around my room some more. I turned the light on, picked up my mobile phone and walked towards my desk. I heard a loud buzzing sound, which scared the hell out of me. I looked down and saw a bottle of coke on the floor, which I thought was making the noise, I moved my arm with my mobile in, and it stopped buzzing. This made me come to the conclusion that the signal from the phone was somehow making the coke fizz up... I don't know HOW i came to that conclusion. I was experiencing some pretty nice open eye visuals by now. I seemed to be able to see through my skin, which i had read was a common thing. When i put my face close to my arm and stared at it, fractals seemed to come out from my arm, pretty cool I thought. I started to stare at my finger and some how it seemed to grow old and decrepit - kinda boney like. I blinked and then my whole arm was blue and seemed rubber like. It seemed floppy, so I decided to stretch it, I went a little too far and for a moment I thought I pulled my arm off. At this point I kinda felt "waves of negativity" which were joned by waves of intense nausea and OEV's. My eyes became saturated with ranbows. I looked into the light on my ceiling and was almost blinded by all the colours. I think I nearly passed out, but I managed to calm my self down, and convince my self I hadn't pulled my arm off.

1:00 - 5:00 - After the whole nearly collapsing incident I went to lie down again, turned the light off, and once again enjoyed the nice OEV's and CEV's.This was joined once agian with a half awake and lucid dreaming state for the next 4 hours. I woke up from a dream, went into the kitchen, ate a pork pie. Then fell asleep.

I woke up the next morning around 10am feeling ok, just kinda tired, I also noticed my vision was way sharper, which I hadn't noticed the night before. This lasted for the duration of the next day.

It was a good experience. I will try these again for sure, probably the same dose, maybe 1 or 2 more seeds. Not for a few months though.

SWIM hopes you enjoy his letter.

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nice report, thanks

[hoodbran]

Nice report!

There's a cat on my street that haff a nice collection of hbwr he wants to plant next spring, he spoke of recently getting rid of the rest of the neighborhood mg heavenly blues because of their teeny tiny size and the black light test always failed his paws for sure..
Lophophora Williamsii is a mystical name he chose for himself, he's the only cat in the UK with such a name and it's legal - he showed me the documents.

Back to swiy's hbwr report - Swiy will likely to have a tolerance to lsa now for a while - much longer than a week.

[FrogEye]

Nice report, thanks for sharing. But i read somewhere you have to be careful with downers when doing LSA, dunno if thats true or not, but be safe and don't go nuts with the downers when your on it.

[twitehell messenger]

yea joe wrote that report from a first time that was a while back before he joined this forum and when he was not as wise. from the knowlage he has got from the experience he tends to like having single drug experiences, he doesnt smoke dope anymore due to drug tests and a new job and likes to stick with legal or undetectable substances.

[FrogEye]

fury muff. So does the LSA not show up on the drug test?

[Bajeda]

It shouldn't show up on standard drug tests.

Lets try to keep this thread on topic now. If you want to discuss some other HBWR related issue you can create a new thread or post in an appropriate existing one. Thanks.

[FrogEye]

Hi, the following is a dream that i had last night:

First i had a light breakfast and light lunch then fasted till about 1830 when i consumed 9 HBWS extracted into peppermint tea that had been brewing for about 2 hours with a two and a half tea spoons of lemon juice.

1845 i started to feel a little sick, so i just remained sitting/laying down so that i didn't make myself feel worse. It wasn't that bad and was easily bearable.

1915 Everything started to get a lot sharper and colourful. It was like everything was in high definition. In another dream i took MDMA so i have felt this before. I wasn't tripping but i used this time to examine the fabric in my jeans/my bed sheets. Slight euphoria.

1930 Things got even brighter and most of the sickness feeling had subsided. I continued to examine different colours and patterns.

2000 The daylight coming through my window was fading, so i turned on all the lights in my room so that i could continue to enjoy the colours.

2030 Went to the toilet, i felt sick to move around. I looked at the mirror and my pupils were fairly large, nearly as big as when SWIM does MDMA. I concentrated on my nose to see if i could get a morphing thing happening, my face morphed a little but not very much, and i had to keep focused on one point for it to work. Decided to go lye down and turn off all the lights in my room to see if i could get any visuals.

2100 I found if i stared at things for long enough they would morph, i have a fear and loathing poster in my room and if i stared at johnny depp's nose for long enough his mouth and sunglasses melted. But it seemed like i was watching it forever and i was getting bored of staring at one thing. It's then that i realized i was having time distortions. 10 minutes seemed like an hour, which was good, because i could enjoy things in less time.

2115 i decided to put on headphones and listen to a psychedelic internet radio station and lye down with my eyes closed. I had okay CEV's so i decided to do some nitrous that i got for this trip because nitrous always sets psychedelics off.

After i did the nitrous things got alot more visual (but not insane), the walls breathed a little and the fabric on my clothes seemed to move, as did the hairs on my arm, but only if i was directly looking at them. This was pretty fun especially with the doped feeling of the nitrous that lasted a minute or two (which seemed like longer thanks to time distortion)

I had pretty amazing CEV's, i was concentrating on the music so i could see what the music looked like. It was pretty awesome, long streams of vibrating vibrant colours flew across with circles of light spinning around. One song was really fun, not sure what it was called but it started off with a internet dial up thing (you know the old dial up noise), which really set off a theme based CEV. I could see wires with pulsating light being streamed through them and into large boxes of light that changed path/colour as the music changed (kind of like watching what the internet looks like). During these CEVs time almost ceased to exist.

I decided to use this time to try and clear up a horrible trip i had a few days ago which involved lots of alcohol and a couple of cones that were a lot stronger than expected. During that bad trip i had to walk home with this guy who was also stoned but he was telling me he was involved in the underground and heaps of heavy shit that involved people getting hurt, i was able to block the fear during that time but it has been troubling me over the past few days. I pictured that night being consisted of two things, the effects of the drugs and the probable deliberate attempt of that guy to try and scare me (whether it was truth what he was saying or not). Then i watched as the music visual separated these two things from each other and turned them both into two layers of memories. I was able to separate the effects of the drugs from what he had told me during that night and analyze it. I was able to determine that he had been bullshitting that entire time and it was so obvious, so then the music swallowed up all the bad feelings from that memory and destroyed them all. After that i felt much much better. It seemed like that had taken an hour, but in fact it took 5 minutes.

Later on at about 2300 i started feeling anxious and sedated, i felt like my mind was having trouble adjusting back to thinking normally after i had focussed so intensely on different ways of thinking. I tried to sleep but couldn't so i put on a movie which helped a little. I felt more and more sedated and uncomfortable through the next hour, but it wasn't extremely horrible so i just went with it. Fell asleep at about 0100ish

Woke up at 0930 feeling okay, a little bit of a headache and a craving for a good breaky. My mind was a little like wtf so i decided to write this all down for my benefit as much as everyone else's. It has helped and i can now conclude that it was fun and enjoyable. My main problem was that sometimes i felt like i was caught between a psychedelic world and the normal world, this caused anxiousness, especially towards the end. This feeling went away if i decided to close my eyes and just think rather than trying to trip on real world things.

SWIM will do it again, but not for a few weeks.

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Interesting report.

[blahblahhype]

SWIM took and chewed 12 HBWR's swim had a very bad trip, every thirty minutes felt like puking. could not get up off of the bed for 12 hours or so, continually moved legs, stretched, pulled skin away from the body along certain "ridge" points. Didnt feel anything like lsd or shrooms. no visuals just the impending sense of doom.

only positive thing that swim said happened was swim could sense other peoples energies and could tell how they were feeling and what was wrong. could also tell if someone was lying and if their intents were honest and truthful or have they had bad intentions. felt extreme one-ness with himself wanted to be nude and convert back as if no gov't, media, or people have ever put any ideas into swims head about what to wear, eat, live, schooling and religious or anything of those sorts. swim wanted to be in the woods in the open wanting to hunt, fend, make his own shelter and continue to not wear anything

was not able to sleep and once he fell asleep was woken up by other trippers on the phone with their fathers thinking they were about to die. not a pleasent experience. WOULD NOT RECOMEND

swim loves hallucinogens but doesnt recomend these so called "legal" seeds. would rather trip on shrooms or lsd

[Fantasy]

Swim and her mate took 5 babywood rose seeds each. They had burned the outside layer but after an hour both started to throw up violently. The only effect of it was that the lights seemed brighter and things seemed a bit different but swim thinks it wasn't worth it.

[Talynt]

SWIM and a friend took hbwr.
SWIM took 15-18 seeds
A Friend took 7-10

My friend was telling me how things were coming out at him and he was seeing all different kinds of colors.

SWIM didn't experience and visuals at all with 15-18 seeds. But worth more trys

[Alkemist33]

A drunkyard that I regularly meet at the bus stop told me that he ate (only!?) 5 crushed HBWR seeds
on Sunday Night with sparkling Water and, drunk as fakk as he was, forgot to scrape the outer envelope from the seeds,
which are known to contain bad chemicals (Strychnine?). Now he complains about a subtle
pressure in his testicles and wonders if that feeling ever will stop again. Moreover he asks himself,
whether the stimulating mind effects were caused by the Strychnine or the LSA's inherent the seeds.
He wanted me to explain him everything but I was also confused. Is one of you guys able to explain ?

[69Ron]

Originally Posted by Alkemist33

A drunkyard that I regularly meet at the bus stop told me that he ate (only!?) 5 crushed HBWR seeds

Originally Posted by Alkemist33

on Sunday Night with sparkling Water and, drunk as fakk as he was, forgot to scrape the outer envelope from the seeds,

which are known to contain bad chemicals (Strychnine?). Now he complains about a subtle

pressure in his testicles and wonders if that feeling ever will stop again. Moreover he asks himself,

whether the stimulating mind effects were caused by the Strychnine or the LSA's inherent the seeds.

He wanted me to explain him everything but I was also confused. Is one of you guys able to explain ?

Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds and the various morning glories DO NO CONTAIN ANY STRYCHNINE AT ALL. There is one dubious report of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose containing strychnine long ago from an anonymous author. According to what I know about strychnine, it only occurs in Strychnos nux vomica and it's relatives.

The chemical in the Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds that is causing the unpleasant effects that are mistakenly blamed on strychnine is a likely a lysergamide. There are several lysergamides (sometimes present in impure LSD) that cause unpleasant effects that people mistakenly blame on strychnine. Actually they are not really that much like strychnine. Anyone who’s actually used strychnine can easily tell the difference. If Hawaiian Baby Woodrose actually contained enough strychnine to cause unpleasant effects, people would be dying from ingesting them because the unpleasant effects of strychnine are near the lethal dose of it. With strychnine, the cramps you get are life threatening. They happen in cycles in that you get cramps all over and then for a while you don’t and then suddenly you get cramps all over again, over and over with times a no cramps in between. This is totally unlike the cramps you get from some lysergamides. With strychnine, the slightest sound or touch will cause a cramp to happen. That is not the case with cramps from lysergamides.

Also, strychnine is EXTREMELY BITTER. You can taste as little as 1 microgram of strychnine and that dose is not even active. If there was enough strychnine present to even be very slightly active then the seeds would taste super bitter, and you would get a strong bitter strychnine aftertaste from them. You can taste strychnine at dilutions of up to 1 part in 700,000! So any plant or seed that contains it in active doses will taste extremely bitter.

The super bitter taste of strychnine is totally absent from the seeds. This proves it does not occur in the seeds in any amount that could cause any effects at all in a human being.

So this rumor, though common place, is totally false.

The same applies to LSD. A very slightly active dose of 50 micrograms of strychnine would make a blotter taste extremely bitter. A dose of 250 micrograms would be more effective, and that would be so bitter that it would make some people nauseated if they tasted it on blotter paper. While SWIM has had acid with the taste of strychnine in it before, it’s very rare, and was only found in the early days. These days, SWIM has not heard of any acid actually having strychnine in it. The taste is unmistakable and extremely bitter. It leaves a bitter aftertaste in your mouth for a few minutes. It’s flavor is very easily detected.