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I have heard lots of stories about PCP and how bad it is, but none of these stories seem to be true to me. Sure everyone knows a friend of a friend who smoked some dust and killed a few people, but is PCP really all that bad? I have never experiened PCP but I am very interested in it. I know it is a dissociative like ketamine and DXM, but why does PCP have so many horror stories behind it. I have never heard any stories about people going insane and killing someone on ketamine or DXM, but these stories are mundane when it comes to PCP. I was offered a sherm which is a cigarette dipped in liquid pcp. The guy who can get it doesnt want to give me any because he said his friends smoked some and got too high and lost 10,000 dollars. I want to know if PCP is really as bad as everyone says it is. Also, how long do the effects take to kick in when you smoke a sherm stick. Would I be able to take a puff, then wait a few seconds to determine weather or not I should take another puff. I dont want to do PCP until I am fully informed about it, and when I am, Im still not sure if I will do it or not. Does anyone here have any first hand horror stories with it? Also, does anyone have any good things to say about PCP? I was wondering just how damaging it is if you just take a few puffs off of a sherm stick. If I do happen to take PCP, Im not going to make it a regular thing, Im just the type of person that likes to try everything once. I dont feel like my life would be complete if I never took a hit off of a sherm stick. So basically, any information about PCP that will help me make my decision on wether or not to do it would be greatly appreciated. I have searched the forums left and right and it doesnt seem like there is much information about PCP. Most posts are comcerning ketamine and DXM. Thanks everyone!
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I have been reading the forums, and someon said not to take more than 3 hits of PCP. Do you mean like a cigarette dipped in it or what. The PCP that SWIM was offered comes dipped in a cigarette and it is called sherm. I guess there is no way to tell how potent it is , but would it be safe to take 3 hits from a sherm stick. I dont want to take 3 hits and end up losing my mind or anything. I also heard it takes like 10 minutes to fully kick in. Could I just take like one hit, then wait ten minutes and take another, until I reach the desired effects. It lasts hours so I dont see why this would be a problem. Again, thanks everyone.
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I was at a house party talking to a guy who deals w/ sherm. (pcp) he told me that freaking out in a violent manner was not really that common. He also said to take a couple small hits, like not a cigarette hit, but slightly smaller, and he warned me not to keep smoking it because it takes a few minutes(like K) to really go. Read Ketamine VS PCP in this section of the forum. Please note that I have not had the opportunity to study PCP personally.
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If your going to smoke from a sherm stick, still only take 3 hits and hold each one in for roughly 10 seconds. Then just sit back and enjot the experience.
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I smoked a sherm stick today. It was pretty cool but I don't think the sherm stick was very potent. I took like 7 hits and I felt really stoned for like 4 hours. I could barely keep my eyes open too. Very sedating IMO.
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Sounds like you got some pretty weak stuff. However, you should still consider yourself lucky to come across it.
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I have experience with pcp smoking sherm sticks. Next to mdma
it's the only drug I like (aside from the rare lsd or shroom trip or whatever which nowadays I'm kinda past as far as experimenting/using except on rare occasions). I've smoked about 20 sticks to this day maybe more over the last 5 years. having experimented everywhere between a few hits and two dips to the head. I personally don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be (when used in moderation</span>) although I would defo say its very dangerous especially if you overdose. I experimented with K years ago and find PCP (when used properly) much much better than K. Personally I didnt like K the 5 or 6 times I tried it and never touched it since. If you get good liquid sherm you'll know because the high will be clear and euphoric hence you may hear people on pcp think they can fly. You dip your ciggarette or blunt or joint or whatever in the liquid (usually in vial form) let it dry a little and this is important *light it with a ciggarette cherry* if you put a direct flame to it it's VERY likely the whole thing will light up and you'll burn you nose or face. I've seen cats with experience light it with a lighter and quickly snatch it away and shake the big flame off, but don't try that. If you're new start with a FEW hits. Take big hits and hold it for as long as is comfortable. PUT IT OUT after that so you don't keep smoking it. It is very easy to cross the line with sherm sticks and be totally fucked up in a very bad way (which is why it gets such a bad rep). The high's from sherm to me are euphoric. For me I become very calm and peaceful and everything slows down. Movement becomes very delicate and deliberate. Ironically, it's a bit like having a couple drinks physically but without the heaviness and sloppiness and disorientation of being all out drunk. although I wouldn't recommend driving or anything at all. I find myself able to communicate more clearly and interact better with people similar to being of x but without the agitation and speediness from some x pillz and people say they cant tell i'm high. Smoking the right amount of sherm (for me a half a stick or one between two people) is perfect. At this point I usually only smoke when coming down from x pills (my drug of choice) I find it catapults me back to the peak without the edge... very peaceful and calm for me with feelings of contentment and relaxation. So here's the words of advice and why sherm is so dangerous: DO NOT SMOKE MORE THAN A FEW HITS TO START WITH. here is why (and this could very well turn you all off to pcp-which is fine by me). I've seen people go crazy off sherm myself included. One time I was with a bunch of cats we passed around several sherm sticks at night. that was fine, the usual smoking blunts and hanging out. I fell asleep, and the next morning, someone else showed up (new years morning) and asked if i wanted to share a dip with him. We smoked the dip (me being awake only minutes and having smoked several hours before during the night) and I flipped out. I was hollering and screaming at the top of my lungs in pure agony. It was a very physical pain and at first I thought I was dying. This is coming from someone who's used all sorts of psychedelics and whatnot over the years. I was almost certain I was dying or dead. I felt as if I was an x-men transforming or morphing into something as if i was coming out of my skin. literally like I was turning inside out, very painful physically, enough so for me to holler and scream uncontrollably. i found myself trying to stop screaming but i couldnt because i was in agony. I experienced total and complete death of ego in a bad way unlike lsd or psychedelics. I had no idea whatsoever who or what i was. I was thinking "what the hell is this". I felt like I was in some very primitive state of spirit and totally rejecting the idea of being alive and in a body. I started to hear my name and as I heard it I felt like I was being born if that makes sense. At first I had no idea what the word meant, then slowly I began to realize it was my name and it was like I was being born into physical existence. I thought that at that moment in time I was coming into the world. I thought that I'd existed for eternity as a spirit but was now being forced into this body and into this world which was to me hell and clearly some form of punishment. keep in mind this was extraodinarily painful like pain on another level. so slowly but surely I came back to reality but it wasn't easy. I was totally questioning what I was, the question going around and around "what am i, what is THIS". After what I imagine maybe fifteen minutes or so I came back to reality but feeling VERY drugged and disoriented. I slept through the day and woke up as the sun went down. I could barely walk and it took two days to get back to normal as far as not feeling disoriented. My muscles were sore for days as if i'd exerted myself beyond anything normal. There was a time previous to this episode I smoked two dips to the head. I just sat there staring at nothing totally jacked for hours. The yelling is interesting, I once saw this dreadlock in the neighborhood gone of sherm stomping down the street yelling top of his lungs about jah rastafari and halie selasie and these are the end of days. He was walking fast as hell and hollering as if possesed by something... it was obvious he couldnt fully control himself. Another day I saw another guy my homeboy doing the same thing, walking down the street speed walk as if a demon was propelling him without his control and screaming about his girlfriend and his baby. Both guys appeared totally oblivious to their surroundings hence the dissociative properties. Anyway, I'm tired, it's late. My advice is to be very careful messing with sherm. For me I've learned how much I can tolerate. A half a stick and I'm on cloud nine walking and talking as normal. People have told me they had no idea I was high after talking to me. And like I said, the only times (for the most part) I smoke now are when coming of an E and not everytime. I haven't overdosed in years, it's been 4 years since that episode and i've smoked a fair amount of times but very selectively and in moderation with pleasant results. PCP is not for a newbie to drugs or someone out here desperately looking to get high off something. Please be careful. |
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oh btw, i read above the guy said he hit a sherm stick and he just felt stoned. i'm confirming that sounds like weak sherm probably dilluted with something or mixed with water. ONCE iblazed some weak ass sherm asmoker(crackhead) gave me. it smelled likesherm (we call it hot water, water, or wet)but weak, and smoked likewater but weak, and the high was just a slight buzz somewhat similar to being stoned plus cloudy and muddy. when/if u ever smoke real sherm you'll know.. the smell is a super strong chemical smell and the smoke is like your smoking a chemical, nodoubt about ityou'll know when you hit real sherm. it comes on STRONG within seconds and you'll know right away your high, very high. so the next time smell it a little (from a distance) and the smell alone should knock you off your socks like "god damn what the fuck is that??". (xcuse the long posts, i'm really into this stuffand glad to have found a place to vent). again, please use care and caution if you ever come across this stuff. I don't want to offend anyone. But I really want to say that I've messed with both K and dxm and neither compare to sherm. sherm is a lot cleaner feeling and pleasant(in moderation-a few hits to half a stick or so), I assume thats where the term "angel-dust" comes from. Smoking too much (a whole stick) is comparable to my experience with dxm and k.Smoking way too much is just drugged out blankness staring into space unable to move or speak,complete dissociation. But yeah, I know my posts on this stuff have been long, but, I hope it sheds some light on this drug that doesn't seem to get any attention and seems to be pretty rare outside of inner cities in the u.s. |
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