Experiences - The Great Big How Has LSD Changed SWIY? Thread

[Antidote]

Ok, I have a question for all you experienced trippers. Has acid had a permanent effect on your perception, thought patterns, mood, or personality? I ask because I seem to be sensitive to psychedelics; one high dose mushroom trip in particular altered my perception of the world while in a normal state. Would you say acid has more or less residual effects than mushrooms?

[ThirdEyeFloond]

Acid has had permanent effect on my thought patterns and personality, I
have had some highdosis trips which turned my life in the 'right'
direction.

I think its impossible to say if acid has more or less residual effects
than shrooms, I think its very individually. Shrooms has taught me as
much as acid has, but imo shrooms act more 'pedagogically'

[dunkelheit]

I believe it's the experience that may have life-altering effects, not the drug itself.

For the most part, my changes have been for the better.

[Trip]

I drop a trip -95.Since then my whole life is fucked up.I'm like 30% of the person I used to be.After a year of the trip I thought I kill myself.I used to wake up every morning for a year just to see that 'It hasn't ended' If I stare something ,it moves.) (Allthought I'm getting used to it.) For a year ,all things were wrongsized.It was like being in horror-movie HELL!!I'd never wish that to even my worst enemy!(I don't like to hate anyone thought) Vision of colors is changed.It's like some-one has turned the contrast-level to 110%.I'm in anxiety most of the time.Fears of people, strange paranoia is in my life.My life is ruined forever, but I haven't committed suicide cause I've lived pretty nice life before this terrible thing that happened to me and I promised not to kill my self even what happens. I even took another trip after 3 years...next day I woke up ,nothing had changed ...back in that same hell.Wish god would help me or something.


I'd never recommend LSD to anyone!!! NEVER!!!


Take mushrooms,ecstasy or smoke weed or hash instead.Those stuff don't leave you on trip.You can get as high with them as with acid!!


My life is ruined.But I heard that if someone has had mental problems ,like depression in their past, or have unsolved 'blocked' traumas in their mind, should NOT take LSD.





-You r warned,but if you take that shit ,Have a nice day.





-halflife

[serotonin]

i would recommend that you pay no attention whatsoever to the above post.


something like that happening is a one in a million (or less) chance.


acid is a really, really wonderful drug. if anyone experiences something like that then there would have to be a pre existing "problem" they were not aware of. it's true that if you have any kind of mental disability then LSD may not be the best idea, but if you are above 18 years of age, and have not experienced any problems (depression, etc.) then it a 99.999999% chance you will be fine.

[Micklemouse]

A few questions/ points...

Trips, what was your consumption of chemicals like before the bad trip, and are you still using anything?
If you are then I seriously recommend stopping and talking to a doctor or counsellor of some description. Take care fella!

Serotonin, what happened to Trips is not that rare. I have known a lot of people who for whatever reason have not fully come back from a visit with Alice, many over 18 with no previous mental health problems. Lsd, treat with respect and used wisely is a wonderful thing, but it has a dark side that can leave scars that may never fully heal. You have no right to trash another persons experience. I remember being 18 and full of the joys of spring, but that is no excuse...Do some homework.

Antidote, I'd seriously recommend doing your first trip before the festival, and get to know Alice first. Festivals can be pretty intense and random places - not good if things get a bit hairy! Whatever you do, start small - a 1/4 tab, no more than a 1/2, and be patient if it takes a while to kick in. Save the heroic doses for when you know Alice well, and listen to what she has to say! She's a lovely lady, but can be a bitch...

[Woodman]

Originally Posted by Antidote

It's a deal. T-minus eight months
and counting

I don't think it's a good idea to to trip for three days.

Acid is NOT an escape into euphoria like heroin, and
it is not "fun" high like weed. It is completely different.

It doesn't just alter your mind, it enhances it,

An acid trip typically takes a few hours before you
come on, so refrain from dropping another hit after
3-4 hours without feeling anything.

The trip should last about six hours. You will
experience several rounds of chills and sweats so
bring a jacket.

If you have one bad experience while high it could
ruin the rest of your trip so be careful of the company
of "friends" you surround yourself with, and the
places you intend to go.

When your trip is over, do not chase it with
ANOTHER trip. You may experience an epiphany and
require solitude where you can contemplate
revelations that occurred on your trip. It is also best
to take a few weeks to bring your mind back into
balance before you decide to use again.

Use wisely, don't risk a bad trip or fucking-up your
mind.



Edited by: woodman

[Woodman]

Again:

You may experience an epiphany and when your trip
is over you might require solitude where you can
contemplate revelations that occurred on your trip.

I strongly recommend that you leave that option
open.

"Tokin'" after acid is not a good idea, especially after
the FIRST time. You need quiet time after coming
down to contemplate the experience.

It's NOT like other drugs.

[zuzu99]

Throwing in my 2cents. I agree with above posts that a trial run is a useful thing to do, espeically if the dosage of the material is not known.

To answer your original question, one of the many things that came out of my experimentation with acid is that I could sing! I had played guitar for many years, but could never sing. This was a big bummer as I really wanted to be able to sing and play. Not only that, I could not even keep tune, unless I sang along with a CD or something where I could listen to the singing and match my voice to it. And believe me, I tried for many years. I tried different songs (mostly things like dylan, dead, beatles, etc), but even with songs that I could somehow sing the melody in tune, singing AND playing the guitar messed it all up (I had no problems with the guitar part).

But after taking acid a few times... more than just a few actually... one day I happened to be looking through all the song books I had bought to practice, and came across dylan's girl from the north country, which I knew the chords and kinda liked it. So I started to play, and holy cow, I sang the whole song, in tune, while playing the guitar just fine. I was so excited I started going through all the different songs I had been trying to play. Each and every one, I could just sight read and sing. Not perfectly, of course, but I sounded better than I thought ever possible. To this day, I have not lost that ability, which I know, although not certain, was somehow related to my acid trips.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Trip

I drop a trip -95.Since then my whole life is fucked up.I'm like 30% of the person I used to be.After a year of the trip I thought I kill myself.I used to wake up every morning for a year just to see that 'It hasn't ended' If I stare something ,it moves.) (Allthought I'm getting used to it.) For a year ,all things were wrongsized.It was like being in horror-movie HELL!!I'd never wish that to even my worst enemy!(I don't like to hate anyone thought) Vision of colors is changed.It's like some-one has turned the contrast-level to 110%.I'm in anxiety most of the time.Fears of people, strange paranoia is in my life.My life is ruined forever, but I haven't committed suicide cause I've lived pretty nice life before this terrible thing that happened to me and I promised not to kill my self even what happens. I even took another trip after 3 years...next day I woke up ,nothing had changed ...back in that same hell.Wish god would help me or something.


I'd never recommend LSD to anyone!!! NEVER!!!</font>


Take mushrooms,ecstasy or smoke weed or hash instead.Those stuff don't leave you on trip.You can get as high with them as with acid!!</font>


My life is ruined.But I heard that if someone has had mental problems ,like depression in their past, or have unsolved 'blocked' traumas in their mind, should NOT take LSD.





-You r warned,but if you take that shit ,Have a nice day.





-halflife

Sounds like HPPD. Erowid has a lot of info on it. It can happen with any hallucinagen after one or 100 or a million trips and is different with every person. http://www.erowid.org/psychoactives/...ppd/hppd.shtml

Acid certainly changed my life, my outlook, and in some ways my
"perception" of the world -- not in the sense of visual hallucinations
but the way I perceive other people and myself now often reminds me of
perceptions I had while using LSD. I guess you could call these
"flashbacks", of a more intellectual or abstract sort. And I'll
certainly never forget some of the visions I had or emotions I
experienced -- things I could never experience sober or even while
dreaming asleep.



God damn it, I miss you, Alice.

[Mr_M]

I have had the similiar effects as trip, was my favorite drug, would do it every weekend I could for the longest time, eventually stopped cause I was so burnt out, haven't touched acid in years yet vision still f'ed up, loose focus easy, endless random thoughts, it can drive you crazy. After staying as healthy as possible and getting in shape, it has calmed down a little. My advice is to just take shrooms if you want to trip.

[xctico]

I'll definitely recomend you to trip before the festival, in an
environment with a lot less people involved - you should trie it while
sorrounded by a small group of people you trust, seeing so many unknown
faces at the festival could lead you to paranoia, and paranoia leads
towards bad trips.



As for secondary effects... well, after acid my perception of the world
did change. But it also changed after doing peyote, so I don't know how
much of the change is because of witch one. But I do know that after
peyote I started seeing this "3d colours" whenever I see something
white.

About voices and stuff, I've always had 'em, so Im just probably a bit
crazy from the start, they usually just sing songs - so it's like
having a discman, just fully interactive with your brain...- and
sometimes "video" as well. As I said, I've had it since my childhood
but it did become stronger, and I became able to control it more - I
cant shut them up but I can influence them pretty effectively.

[xctico]

another thing...

the ability to get peace and quite, or at least a change of rythm. can
help you get the feeling that you're in control of your trip. Therefore
helping you avoid a bad trip, this is specially true at times when you
want to meditate about what you've just experienced.

One of the worst trips I've had, the last one actually -four years ago
on january 19th-, was trigger by the fact that I was inside a club and
I didn't have a place to relax every once in a while so the music
started to bother me and then I became paranoic [I don't usually trust
anyone while tripping, unless I trusted that person before the trip;
and I went to the party alone - big mistake, IMHO].



But then again, the trip and how it all goes down, depends a LOT on
your kind of personality, your mood and other factors. I'm a very
introspective person, so I need to have solitude frecuently during my
trips just to be with myself, others can't stand solitude, not being
able to trip acordingly to my own personality lead me to feeling out of
control, despite my initial euforic state.

So for the first time, it's good to have the choice of several ways to go down into it.

[hard2core]

IMO all halucinogens, acid being number 1, are like steroids for the brain. While not all effects are permanent, and some things are over perceived, these drugs open you up to new perceptions. I believe that there are many differences between truth and reality. Where reality is what you perceive to be true, and rarely do we know the truth. Halucinogens us up toward the truth, and that truth brings a permanent change. I believe that I am enlightened because of my use of halucinogenic drugs and that I function at a higher level in comparison to many other people. I am a far better communicator and I understand human behavior in a much greater sense than most people. I believe that LSD can lead to great self discovery that may have taken lifetimes before to unveil. I also believe that, when abused, these drugs can lead to great destruction and desolation. Do all things wisely and in moderation. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[xctico]

Originally Posted by hard2core

Halucinogens us up toward the truth, and that truth
brings a permanent change.

I think hallucinogens open
your senses to different realities - Im sticking with your deffinition
of reality - that may be closer or farther from the truth. They can
take you farther when you abuse them, and they can take you closer in
controlled circumstances. The problem is that you might not percieve as
abuse what in truth is abuse. And the more you abuse, the more you see
that abuse as being moderate - in your reality - when in truth, your
reality is going further away from the truth every time.

The hard thing is to know the difference.

[non_existence]

How has LSD changed your worldview in daily life, and the way you live your life ?

do the things you 'discover' or 'encounter' on a acid trip stay with you over the years, are they memories, or are they permanent life-changing epiphanies [independent of memory] ?

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good thread and very interesting topic. keep on

[Goodall]

whenever swim trips he usualy learns somthing baout himself, and how to get over it. swim has became more confident in swimself since swims trips, and has also learned how to calm others down in ways swim never imagined he could, swim gets into the persons head and figures out the best solutions, was very helpfull when a freind had a bad trip and though he was dead, and that the trip was hell.

[old hippie 56]

Swim found out years ago, while partaking LSD. Material things don't matter, family and close friends matter.

[Nature Boy]

^^^

SWIM agrees with that. LSD can make one feel at ease with their place in the universe. It gives one the sense that they are only a tiny dot in an endlessly enormous existence, something which is quite amazing and sticks with you for a long time.

If everyone on earth used LSD just once in their life, the world would be a very different place.

[Jatelka]

SWIJ realised that child-like wonder is not a state exclusive to children: All adults need to maintain that in their life. LSD makes that easier to carry over into the real world.

[big-lester]

for SWIBL LSD has made him a more relaxed person, worries less, is much nicer towards others, more accepting and he can look at things from other people's view. it has made him think a lot more about everything and it has made SWIBL a much more peaceful person.

[wellhelm]

Swims first LSD trip taught him perspective. That everybody has there own and sometimes we can not understand each others point of view. Though we must be as empathetic as we can to each other there is only one perspective and thats are own.

[Ice006]

SWIM's first LSD trip was likened to the effects of MDMA. Clearly, he'd had a small dosage, at a club, and was active and dancing the whole time.
The way SWIM sees it, LSD gives enormous amounts of natural energy, and the desire to learn and experience. So, if you're raving, you're using a lot of the energy physically.
Now, SWIM's second LSD trip was something magical, which could never be forgotten. If you're sitting down with friends not moving much, oh, the deepness of thought and quality of introspective journey one can have. Probably due to all that energy now being used in the brain instead of physically. That's my reasoning anyway.
SWIM basically tore his ego apart, rebuilt himself from scratch, analysed and looked at all his past problems, viewed them as something to improve and learn from, promised himself to no longer take them with him, and find a newfound motivation to overcome procrastination once and for all. SWIM likened the experience to what he's been lead to believe military training could be like - the superiors break you down emotionally and build you back into the lean mean fighting machine of perfect physical and mental health you were capable of.

Hypocritical as it may sound, SWIM also learnt that it wasn't the LSD (or all drugs, rather) that make highs fun. It's more the relaxed social atmosphere one usually finds themselves in with fellow open-minded people, and the opportunity for a 100% free and truthful conversation. In saying that, SWIM decided to cut his consumption of mind altering substances down significantly, and view them as a tool of immense power, and is glad they're illegal, because most people are too stupid and will simply abuse them, craving nothing more than a 'high'. SWIM wants life to be a high in itself, with good friends and family relationships, a nice home, and just use drugs every now and then to trip balls and have an awesome time dancing or something.

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	Damn good post, thoughtful, and sincere.
	I find that an interesting, yet mysterious view, but it's good

[Paracelsus]

Originally Posted by Ice006

SWIM decided to cut his consumption of mind altering substances down significantly, and view them as a tool of immense power, and is glad they're illegal, because most people are too stupid and will simply abuse them, craving nothing more than a 'high'. SWIM wants life to be a high in itself, with good friends and family relationships, a nice home, and just use drugs every now and then to trip balls and have an awesome time dancing or something.

agree fully with that. most of the tragic drug-related deaths are related to uncontrolled abuse, when someone takes litterally anything to get a buzz and escape reality. Noone can escape reality, drugs can provide temporary relief, but this is just like fighting the symptoms of a disease instead of curing it. If someone takes drugs to escape from reality instead of making reality better, this is MY definition of drug ABUSE.

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