Yopo experiences

[Dopeman420]

My first experience with syrianrue/yopo brew was last night and was a wierd experience. I don't think I really had a break through dmt experience, I don't really know what it was you guys tell me.
I wanted to start at a low dose so I boiled a pot with 2 TBLspoons worth of syrian rue seeds, and another pot boiling with 12 yopo seeds.However I did not have a coffee grinder so the yopo seeds where just cut up into a bunch of krums and small pieces. I boiled each about 30 minutes and drank the rue brew first. After 30 minutes goes by I drink the Yopo brew. Within a half hour of drinking the last concoction I felt slightly feverish and thought I might vomit. Since I read this is going to happen I decided to get it over with, It was quick and painless and I feel better, still very odd and I decide to go lay down and wait for the real effects. I lay quit with my eyes closed and noticed soem odd CEV's but nto very pronounced, now the interesting part I was laying there so long I think I fell asleep, or the dmt just hit me hard. But I was in a dreamlike state of all the sudden being in my basement, kneeling over because my stomach hurt, and I kept hearing people voices all around me, It really looked liek I was their as a looked over I was a man in a mask (pretty wierd never seen it before, kind of sinister) His voice is one I could partly hear, the whole dream probally lasted about 2-5 minutes and came on right when I fell asleep, It felt really intense and vivid, but after I awoke I returned to a feverish state and puked once more. I guess my dosage wasn't high enough to have a more long lasting effect I hear this kind of tea is very shroom like, so I will eventually after a day rest and fasting try another brew of the two at higher doses.

[RoboCop]

SWIM wrote me an e-mail of his experience with yopo I will post his experience of it here.

I made a snuff mixture today, and tried it for the first time correctly, and I have to say it was far better than I ever expected it to be! The snuff is far more effective than smoking the seeds, very colorful, I sat and watched some designs in the wood of my door and they all started to move as though they were dancing. Truely amazing, wish I could explain it better. I read the "rushing" sensation dmt gives, and there is no better way to put it. I got a strong rushing sensation, very colorful CEVS, OEVS, I did it coming down from a 1000mg dxm trip and I think thats why the dmt effected me so long, including the afterglow I felt it a total of 20-45 minutes(estimate) much longer than Ive read. I have a lot more of this stuff and will definatly be using it! Edited by: RoboCop

[GDxCAT]

wow. souds excellent.

do you know what dose you took (amount of seed? mg?)???



...cat

[RoboCop]

Another message from Swim on this topic:

Well I made the snuff with about 15 seeds I belive, and I did not even use half of it. I mixed it with a bit of baking soda. Yesterday I snorted a little more than before with less effects. The dxm had to of helped, because I read there is very little tolerance with dmt. And one time couldn't have built up any. I will use this stuff as a dxm booster for sure. The first time I did a small amount though, just a one short but fat line. The second time I felt a change in conciousness but not alot more no visuals like before, I think without the dxm I will ahve to use more. I will keep experimenting I still have a whole lot of seeds left to make snuff. On dxm it seem that you need soo much less of it to get off. And that was after I was practicly down.

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[Hyperreal]

The day before yesterday I prepared five yopo seeds with the method I outlined above. I used about 35% baking soda and ground them with an electric coffee grinder for a few minutes, which was a very good move, as it resulted in a fine powder.


I cut the powder into four lines and snorted. It stung my nose, but the pain was very much within the limits of tolerability. I reckon the finer it's ground, the less problematic snorting will be. My eyes were streaming and my nose was running, but I felt nothing else for about ten minutes, when I got a strong feeling of pressure on the top of my skull. Again, this wasn't too bad a pain. I was starting to feel nauseous (I don't tend to get sick from taking drugs, but my guts had been feeling less than perfect all day) and after a few minutes I vomited copiously. Again, this was no real problem, I was basically feeling fine.


The drugs hadn't kicked in yet, and it had been almost fifteen minutes, so, my friend/ sitter said, "There are more seeds if you want them." I turned to him to reply and there were two of him sitting there: an vertically inverted mirror image of himself at the bottom of my visual field. "No need," I said, "I'll be alright." The body load was quite heavy, which was a bit annoying, and throughout the trip and into the next hours, the chaos in my nasal cavatieskept distracting me. I looked around for something comforting and pleasant to put into my nose, a sort of equivalent of chewing gum,then I realized that no such thing exists. Someone should really invent one of those.


In terms of neuropharmacology, taking DMT is exactly like being schizophrenic for a while. I said insane nonsensical things which I wish I could post here, as they'd portray the character of the craziness very well, but I remember nothing of what I said. I do remember thinking that what I was saying was perfectly normal, and being surprised at the puzzled reactions I got. The trip, bizarrely enough, was characterized by an Eighties feel and aesthetic. The visual and auditory hallucinationswere reminiscent of Pacman. Unlike LSD or mushrooms, the visuals did not, for the most part, derive from the input of my eyes. Instead, there were rapidly changing geometric patterns laid over the entire visual field. Also, everything seemed to have the texture of wood. Although I was pretty much paralysed by the effects of the drug, I never felt like it was getting out of control and I never lost the sense of where I was and ordinary reality. Mostly, this was because I knew it would be over in half an hour. I never forgot that I was on drugs. There was no feeling of euphoria per se, though I definitely enjoyed the trip. The appeal was moreto do withcuriosity and interest


The trip proper was over in about 25 minutes, although I was subject to insane laughing fits for hours after that. I should warn you that my friend, when he snorted it, described the feeling as the worst pain he had ever experienced. He also got a little out of control, tearing posters off the wall and babbling nonsensically. However, to use Hunter Thompson's terminology, it was definitely 'good craziness' rather than 'bad craziness'. He only snorted 2 and a half seeds, but he seems to have a low tolerance for most drugs.


I may be doing yopo again tonight. Or possibly morning glory. I'll let you heads know how it goes.


.Peace.

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[Alfa]

Please post your yopo experiences here. Please note the dosage, onset, peak andduration if possible. Try to desribe the experience as complete as possible.
Edited by: Alfa

[Eirias]

I am glad that you guys are having success with the baking soda
addition technique. I posted about this in another thread here at
the DMT forum, as I first heard about this technique out at
MindStates. It great to finally hear some good reports involving
yopo!

Perhaps at some point one of you psychonauts could write up a
brief "tek" describing the best way to prepare the snuff with baking
soda, and then it could be critiqued and perfected by the input of
others. SWIM would post it, but SWIM actually has zero experience
with Yopo other than identifying the Anadenanthera spp. while in
vacation in southern Mexico.

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[Amphetamientjes]

Hello, I have a question about poppings those yopo seeds

After I popt them and puld of the skin I find it verry hard
"cutting"them correctly. I cant get it into powder, its still
granulous. So if I want to snuf this the right way wat doe I have to
do?

[uncle bob]

I just read your passage and I can't comment on the Syrian Rue but as to the yopo, did you drink all the tea from 12 seeds of anadenanthera perigrina that was boiled for 30 min? I guess the question should read did you drink all of the tea within 60 seconds? and is the syrian rue a MAOI? because yopo seeds are not active orally unless taken with an MAOI and then they become active to the point where 12 seeds would have done quite a number on you.
Does anyone else have a comment? to clarify one point: all of the seeds must be consumed within 60 seconds because any more taken after that will not increase the activity. Although you can do it all over again in about an hour and a half.

[Euphoric]

SWIM's first experiments with yopo were failures, mostly due to misinformation on websites. First swim smoked some through a pipe with a crappy bic lighter. Just one bowl as swim was waiting for mushrooms to kick in. Didn't really feel anything substantial until the mushrooms arrived.

Next SWIM tried snorting them. He'd read that you could cut them with lime for best effects or do them on their own. This I found to be untrue. SWIM lacked lime and did them on their own, probably 4-6 seeds. It seemed a hell of a lot to snort, but SWIM did it and was displeased not only with the lack of effects but also with the brown shit he was sneezing out over the next hour or so.

Finally a success story: SWIM ground up some seeds (8) for he and a friend. They went to SWIMs backyard to lounge and smoke. SWIM's friend brought some grass to make a nice mix. The two shared about 4-5 bowls each in a glass pipe with a torch lighter, using less than half the powder of the ground up seeds. This worked very well. SWIM could not move easily afterwards. He felt a rush of heat and then great weight in his body. SWIM was shaky and passing and refilling the pipe was tough. SWIM wasn't seeing things that weren't there but everything that was there looked very interesting and seemed to form patterns. Shimmering leaves in the wind and dancing grass... Beautiful. The interesting visuals probably only lasted 5-10 minutes, then SWIM just felt very stoned. SWIM finds it hard to smoke and will attempt the baking soda snoting method next time. I take it baking soda is used as a MAOI?

[Nagognog2]

"I take it baking soda is used as a MAOI?"

No. Baking Soda (Sodium Bicarbonate - NaHCO3) acts as an alkaline, like lime, to leach out the alkaloids - which are the active molecules in the Piptadenia Peregrina - Yopo.

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM has tried yopo snuff before with inconclusive results and this thread has renewed his interest in it. SWIM was wondering how different the dosage would be if SWIM took 3g worth of syrian rue seeds pre-ground in capusules first and how long before snorting the snuff should SWIM take them? And is SWIM correct in thinking the ratio of seed to baking soda is 1:1?

[Aardwolf]

Swims experience with Yopo is thus:

After popping the shells off the Yopo seeds the orange material inside smells like roasted chestnuts.

2 seeds powdered in joint = no effect
4 seeds powdered in simple vaporiser = mild headache and sedation
3 seeds powdered and snorted = no effect
3 seeds powdered and cut with baking soda ratio (seeds to baking soda ratio 3:1) = mild headache
1 bowl smoked in bong = Disgusting smoke, nearly sick but got strong sedation.

Haven't yet been able to get visuals advice appreciated for SWIM to get more out of these seeds. Is seed freshness a factor?

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[Demonslayer]

Originally Posted by Aardwolf

1 bowl smoked in bong = Disgusting smoke, nearly sick but got strong sedation.

You are nearly there. You will feel intensly sick for a couple of seconds, then closed eye visuals. If really sucsessfull, open eye visuals and feeling of alien presence (elves?). SWIY needs to inhale deeper and longer.
SWIM stopped exploring yopo/cebil because of the intense nausea.

[Misha]

my first experience with yopo seeds was a little painfully,but great,no doubt.i took 14 seeds and baking soda.after preparation i had a five lines to snuff.after taking all of lines i felt strong pain in head,but only instantaneously.and then i felt something what i doesn`t expect.nice,with positive speculation and whitout unwished semblance.great thing.all other times was same nice as the first.and also other times I use lime instead soda.

[tip]

Swim took 200ml bottle of robo performed solvent based extraction using ammonia and naphtha and boiled agent lemon solution down to 50 ml. Swim not sure exactly how much DXM was present but it was fucken strong 1 hour later! Swim gulped down the bitter shit and waited, just as the DXM began to come on 45 minutes after ingestion swim then snorted the equivalent of 10 yopo seeds grounded and mixed 3/5 ratio with baking soda.

The DXM was really kicking in just as swim finished the 5th line swims nostrils were chock with the stuff but swim was so invincible on the DXM swim couldn’t feel the pain and the DXM dilated swim’s nostril almost as much as swim eyes. (Swim also used a local anesthetic cream inserted up the nasal cavity which works very well)

As soon as swim polished off the last big fat line of yopo swim suddenly felt something pressing on swim’s chest like a box was clamped on to swim’s heart.
Swim needed to take a piss before the DMT kicked in, swim ventured to the bath room and as soon as swim finished swim noticed looking at swim self in the mirror that the air was filled with hundreds of geometric translucent objects flying around the bathroom every where around swim’s head.
Next behind swim two large crystal blue doors which looked like they were made out of class (or some type of precious jewels) appeared behind swim and then again in front of swim in the mirror or maybe it was the same vision but it was transparent.
They disappeared and a sense of a presence telling swim to hurry the fuck up and finish as this was the important moment and to take action now!!, to do what??
Looking in the mirror swim’s face looked like c3p0 from star wars I was golden brown and looked like swim was made out of shiny copper or gold metal, swim’s eyes were completely dilated they were the biggest swims pupils have ever been. Swim felt an intense body rush and felt like lying down, or it just felt like that was what swim was suppose to do.

Swim lied down on the bed and the blue jewel doors where above swim translucent and solid when eyes were shut. They started to get closed and closer until swim passed through them just morphing right on through.

Next what happens barely describes the vivid intensity of the most fucken intense hallucinations swim has ever had!!

Swim was underneath hyperspace it was constantly morphing and shimmering with fractals it was at this moment swim began to panic and opened swims eyes the room was dimly lit and there was the same object and forms but translucent. With courage swim closed swims eyes and focused on the images again.
Swim was looking at the surface of this object hovering over swim kind of like lying on your back on top of a building in the movie “Independence Day”, looking up at a massive alien object consuming all visual field. The surface was mutating and was swirling like a mass of hyper molten magma, jeweled with diamonds lit up like a Christmas tree sucking swim toward, swim felt like swims body was liquefying with it.

Then the ship turned in to a large swirling mass of objects in the form of a galaxy, strange objects and machinery swim has never seen before all were in a liquid state. They were changing shape and form in a melted swirling fashion, they were bursting with light and color.

This hovered above swim for what seemed like 15 minutes when swim opened swims eyes it seemed only 2 minutes had passed in the clock.

Normally when swim goes robo tripping swim gets these deep purple melted mosaic patterns slowly swirling and mutating behind swims closed eyes but the DMT in the yopo must have enhanced this to a 3 dimensional reality now in hyper color!!

Just the most fucken amazing visuals swim has ever seen!!!

There were bright swirls of yellow and blue spiraling like galaxies swirling with clouds of red, blue and yellow and it was pulsating and glowing, slowly sucking swim in with long cosmic tongs or tentacles swirling with marbled colors blue and yellow.

The DMT realm was under total control of the swirling motion of the DXM effect like a bit of a tug of war between the two substances. The DXM was causing the DMT intensify as if it was a MAOI inhibitor or vice versa?!?!

The swirling and mutating stopped and swim was in what only could be described as inside an alien mouth. It was like being licked all over by large female alien tongs that were blue and yellow there was a deep purple as well glowing and pulsating all about with other colors green and red. Any object that touched swim was always blue with marbled yellow streaks through it. The feeling was intensely pleasurable beyond anything sexual or orgasmic it was totally alien swim never knew swim could feel this way.

In this hyper space it was like heaven swim could do anything swim wanted.
Swim could make anything swim desired come in to reality and experience.
Everything swim thought of suddenly appeared in to the mutating swirl of colors and objects.

Never ending realms past and present and alternate places were experienced all at once. Swim could travel in swim’s universe which was everything swim had ever experienced all at once, swim could go from here and there and then in to some imaginary realms of past present.
Swim sensed there was much more going on around him but could not break through to see or experience it was like all swim could experience were things in swims conscious from past life experiences and dreams, fantasies etc.

Hyper space was just so full on at one moment a large spewing blue galaxy’s tail clouded with marbled yellow suns engulfed swim with a loving warmth and poked swim right through the heart and left a yellow stain on swim’s chest that slowly seeped in to swim body. At this point swim felt swim self start to have tremors almost a small seizure, shaking slightly then it eased up with deap breathing.

After this part swim was on the end of a large blue and yellow galaxies cloud, there were giant red spiders slowly appearing or spewing out of the blue clouds of space dust.
One of these spiders brought its face right up to swims and swim stared at its face which was like a tarantulas but with really big black bulbous eyes. There was a sense of peace and love for what seemed like eternity as if swim was staring in to this spiders eyes for million years.

At this point swim was given a vision.

There was a large grassy field containing 7 normal looking everyday people (no one familiar) and there were 2 really tall treelike people like in lord of the rings 2. They were 10 storied high made out of wood with no faces.
There was a sense that they were evil, they would stick there big branch like arms in to people piercing there hearts with these long wooden daggered branches.
It was with this technique they could control people like remote controlled cars.
These hyper dimensional beings were using people to get other people and had used this technique to get to me for various purposes all through my life. Fucken weird!!!

Swim could sense millions of other consciousness all around me then they would all snap in to one point in the centre of swim head the back again disperses in to the hyper space swirling mass of color and objects. The whole experience slowly faded and lost intensity much like coming down from DXM was.

Swim had the feeling swim could return but swim did not really want to. Swim checked the clock and it seemed 1 hour had passed which felt like a millennium. There was so much more swim experienced but it was in another dimensional level swim could not comprehend. It was as if there were more parts to swim that existed in alternate realities that swim was not able to connect to. It felt as though a hell of a lot more happened to swim than swims conscious experience.

After it was over for the next 4 hours of the DXM trip everything was wavering just like on good quality LSD swim use to be able to get back in 1995. The keyboard and the small tiles on the kitchen floor to the text in the newspaper were slowly rippling and waving.

Swim seemed to have a strong idea present for the next day that was persisted in every thought like a song you cannot get out of your head.
It was “every body is connected to hyper space through our desires, sexual desire to reproduce to scientific knowledge of the universe physics etc. Sexual addiction, alcoholism and smoking nicotine, are signs of detachment from our natural relationship with this hyper space experience. Hyperspace is there and is the cause of what we do. All we do is really because of hyper space and not to survive on this planet and exist in its boundaries.
Hyperspace is doing what we do it is the cause of everything that happens in out world and dimension.”

Swim is planning this combination again this weekend to see if the same thing happens.

[tip]

10 seeds mixed with baking soda 5 big lines the length of cigarettes but as fat as cigars.

Totally blocked nose + mild nasal pain (anesthetic used). Body rush swim felt strong and powerful like on LSD. Right foot and shoulders felt like they were burning room and colors became brighter.

Eyes open

Objects in the room became primarily there color!! The color of the object became dominant the stronger.
The three dimensional properties of the environment were drowned out by the color and light causing the environment to become 2D.
It was as if swim’s body was emitting light in a radius illuminating the most reflective bit of other objects in the room.
Words printed on books with solid colors would stand out more. Letters in words printed on objects were more visible and sharpened in contrast.
If you walked in to a library in this state the text printed on the book covers would stick out like a set of dog’s balls, it was just so much more noticeable than usual.

Lying down eyes closed

Dark purple patters emerged and progressed to lighter colored blue green objects. Shapes would drop down slowly from the third eye are centre of swims head and hover in front of swims vision.
They were cubes and rectangles covered with geometric patters resembling Aztec art, little cartoon heads with big eyes would cover the object like a tiled surface, luminously glowing and flashing like neon sighs in Las Vegas.

After these objects hovered and slowly rotated for a bit they drop to the right side of swims visual field or left side. The lights would dim on the object and it would hover in darkness to the side, there they would rapidly change shape in the dark becoming domed circular objects like medieval shields used with suits of armor by knights. These objects would stand aside and make way for the next object to present it self one at a time.

It was like an Aztec alien side show display of dazzling objects, geometrically tiled and with numerous flashing symbols on each intricate tile in sync with each other, hundreds all at once doing the same thing giving the objects a moving surface composed of Pascal pinks, yellows and blue.

At one time swim swore swim saw a sheet of acid as a glowing pattern of tiles on a cubes surface!?? The tiles had cartoon eye balls on each tab of blotter paper then there was another sheet of blotter tiles on the other side as the cube rotated with little Aztec bird man heads, you know like those ones in the temples walls with a bird’s beak in place of the human mouth.

The whole time there was alien music, chanting and calls. It was techno like but with no structured beat it was a flashing musical sound beeping in time with the flashing neon patterns on the objects.
There was a female like voice chanting and melting with sounds like a Roland 303 bleeping acids tones in sync with the colors.

Swim’s internal chatter and thoughts would make it disappear but when swim silenced swims mind and meditated the show would return in force.

Swim decided to place pressure in swims eye socket with swims hands this made the experience visually disappear then it exploded in to large circular explosion of tiny little blue cartoon like thunderbolts zigzag shapes and arrows these were glowing blue the it dispersed back in to the little sideshow again.

The yopo was at times leaking from the back of swim’s nasal cavities, was causing swim to gag and cough.
With each cough or heave there was an explosion or geometric Aztec symbols like little cartoon characters all lined up forming squares and rectangles and structure like parts of Aztec temples.
This slowly faded within 10 minutes and the singing and music faded in to the ringing inside swims head.

The music sounded like it was in time with the flashing and was very synthetic and electrical like modern acid trance. It was structured synergistic noise with a small high pitched woman’s voice chanting.

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nice report. maybe mention effects following the trip. SWIM is just guessing after snorting such a huge amount there wou...

[tip]

DXM and Yopo seed oral ingestion no MAOI

Half 600ml bottle or DXM was extracted and ingested.
2 hours later closed eye visuals consisting of deep dark chamber the wall consisted of millions of cogs all turning at the same time sequencing each other. Very dark and hard to see but everywhere with eyes closed.
1 tea spoon of ground up yopo seed with no MAOI present, tasted absolutely fucken horrid quickly washed it down with water then washed out mouth.

15 minutes later stomach cramps change in perception colours got brighter then super high powered projectile vomiting, with no acid gut wrenching vomit like alcohol. Once stomach empty swim was left with a calm and charged felling, still some minor stomach cramps.
Now here comes the weird part when swim closed swims eyes the dark DXM chamber with the wall of millions of cogs was like being splashed and splattered with Aztec artwork in chunks of light!!! Colours were red, blue and white. Then the images began to move and the cogs mutated in to Aztec sculptures all moving and mutation transforming. Then a cube like a rubrics cube approached swim mutating and transforming rapidly forming Aztec bird man faces and bodies all at once it was to the lower right hand side of vision it would transform spectacularly then it exploded in to a blue sphere of little blue thunderbolts. The rest or the environment was dark but swim could make out very rapidly changing Aztec objects transforming in the dark. This lasted for about 30 more minutes then slowly faded back in to DXM hyperspace of patterns with non Aztec quality’s, just dark and cool colours purples and blues. It appears bufotenine has some mild psycadelic effects strongly Aztec. DXM seems to give the Aztec transforming objects wicked 3 dimensional properties.
Swim felt gassy and bloated the next day until lunchtime then food pushed out the remains of yopo seed. SWIM felt reborn like a 5 year old again.

[TrippleBee]

SWIH did yopo snuff over two years ago so tries to recount it as accurately as possible. Snuff was made with 1:3 ratio of yopo to lime, no pestil and mortar so tried best to make as fine as possible and mix as well as possible.

Taste was discusting with snorted more anyway, 5 10cm long 0.5-1cm thick lines. gag reflex was horrible, but kept at it. After a while SWIH started to feel really hot and flushed, heart rate rose, and sweating. If memory is correct also a mild headache, very fever like. But that was all, just had to ride it out for a good hour. SWIH realises that a large ammount is needed, this can be very hard.

It is known that amazonian tribes would do 'shots' one person blowing the powder into anothers nostrils, this was a large ammount is taken before the body starts to reject it.

SWIH will try preparing with another method soon (1:10 ration, in pestil and mortor), and report back wish SWIH luck.

[tayo]

maybe grind up yopo with baking soda, leave in high concentrate alcohol for a while.. then strain grounds through coffee filter, assuming alcohol will draw out alkaloids through filter, let filtered alcohol dry and then snort remaining substance which would likely have less irritation to the nose because it would leave much finer ground powder/substance to snort. SWIM thinks that if this happened baking soda wouldnt necessarily be needed.

[Akkijee]

Hi
Here is a Yopo experience from St. Patricks Day earlier this year, that SWIM had.
He was bored in the evening and yearned to do something 'interesting' so decided to have another try at Yopo, using some seeds bought about 2 years ago. He wasn't expecting much (those seeds had been unused for 2 years for a reason...)

Method
3 seeds baked in pan till cracked
Shells removed, insides chopped and ground (no pestle and mortar, so he had to use a thermos flask lid, and a wooden spoon)
Mixed in baking soda (possibly about 1/4 the amount of seed, SWIM can't quite remember)
A small amount of water was added, then the whole lot mixed thoroughly
Blasted in the microwave till dry (30 - 40 seconds in this case)
Formed into two big lines, and taken one up each nostril.

It hurt, but nowhere near what he expected. The nostrils certainly felt full after though, which wasn't really a pleasant feeling.

Onset
After about 5 minutes, he felt something that he couldn't quite put his finger on. Then pressure in his calves, and head. The calves feeling made standing difficult, so he lay down on the floor next to a bucket in case he was sick, and with a small pile of tissues for when his nose finally gave in.
After a few minutes, the darkness behind his eyes begain swirling slowly, still in shades of black, and grey. Open eyes showed the room beginning to show a kind of interference, very faint, like from a slightly out of tune TV channel.
He was very excited to tell me that somewhere around the 15/20 minute mark, the CEV's had developed into 'alien machinery' - success! The machinery made no sense of course, but was fully three dimensional, and continually changing, rotating and turning in on itself. If he turned his head with eyes closed, the image almost changed perspective accordingly.
With eyes open, the slight interference in the room had become quite noticeable and the whole air was filled with tiny pixels of different colours. It seemed 'dense' too. Anyway, he said not a lot was going on visually other than that, and maybe a bit of movement in the carpet etc.
So he spent more time with his eyes closed, the machinery by now (possibly the 30 minute mark), had developed into general non-descript stuff rushing past very quickly, as if riding a bike down a supermarket aisle, and watching the various items on the shelves going by.
Throughout this whole period, there was a very faint noise, like computers chattering with one another in an electronic language. It was quite nice.
Finally his body had had enough and decided it wanted to vomit. This was reflected in his visions, where he saw a large wave wash ashore and deposit tonnes of pollution, eg empty paint cans, dead fish, a bicycle. He wasn't sick in the end, just had to spit a few times.
Somewhere through all this he had to blow his nose too. Unsurprisingly, a lot of gunk came out with it.
He felt the peak was over, so went and lay in bed, with his eyes closed. The CEVs gradually slowly faded over the next half an hour or so. SWIM says he can't really remember what they were, and also he couldn't tell at which point they had faded completely, leaving him with normal closed eyelid boringness.
Rough estimate of duration from insufflation to baseline, a little more than an hour.

SWIM was very excited by his success. After effects were completley non-existant, so he had something to eat, and went out drinking as he had planned later that night, desparate to find someone to talk to about his experience.

He tried repeating the experience with 5 seeds a few weeks later, but actually got less effect. SWIM wonders if he had the optimum amount of powder for his nose to handle with 3, and that any more was wasted...

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Excellent write-up. Keep going.

[Nagognog2]

If anyone has/can find a trip report on pure Bufotenine - from whatever source - I'd be a very happy camper. It's been on my list for decades. Prisoners seeing spots and turning purple from injections just don't make the grade.

[tip]

Bufotenine!!

These are stone carvings Aztec in origin. Not sure of the date or era but a long time BC.
Has any swimmer seen these objects whilst on yopo cebel snuff.
The first round shaped object seems to pop up around the bottom right and left corners just after break through some times it consumes the whole field of vision peering really close to your face like an eye!! It attempts to block your vision as the transforming objects display them selves to you.



The last work titled “Aztec idol” not sure what it means but is the splitting image if a transforming object encountered by swim on a high dose yopo combined with DXM!! The object appeared to have a surface of consisting motion and transformation!!! There was never ending mutation of shapes symbols and heads geometrical and cartoon like. There were also red blue and white surface colors and there was no human head in the centre more like a rats face with long snout combined with a ducks beak and nasal features.

[tip]

Holy shit swim cannot believe it!!, found this picture on an Aztec historic religion and art site.
In the left hand side you see the transforming machines!!!!! and right at the bottom you see the spider head or it appears to be a serpent with a spider’s fangs and bulbous eyes. this is identical to what swim came in close visual contact with!!!!! Any other swim's seen this as well?????

[tayo]

SWIM smoked 5 ground up yopo seeds... in one bowl felt very close to a breakthrough experience, smoke didn't feel that harsh, but made SWIM cough very harsh.. finished the bowl within the minute, just a light body load. swim is going to do an alcohol extract and collect and smoke a resin instead of the same quantity of material, and hope to eliminate some of the excess.