NN DMT Basics

[anjin]

Take some dried herbs, dissolve a gram of dmt in alcohol, mix with the herbs and let the alcohol evap.
Now you got dmt laced herb. Put a lttle in a bong and smoke. BAM! hyperspace

[Entropymancer]

The problem being of course, that you don't want to smoke it. You want to vaporize it.

Sandwiching it between herbal material rather than lacing will at least reduce loss to combustion. SWIY never wants to let the flame touch the spice.

[Motumba]

Originally Posted by anjin

Take some dried herbs, dissolve a gram of dmt in alcohol, mix with the herbs and let the alcohol evap.
Now you got dmt laced herb. Put a lttle in a bong and smoke. BAM! hyperspace

If you try this you must only use ethenol' Alcohol with water in the likes of 90 proof vodka is no good'
Reason' the ph of the water in the vodka shall knock the spice back through it's pKa' changing it from a base salt to an acid salt' of which means you can in no way smoke it'
Lot of blast lot of rocks n' dust' NO HYPERSPACE' just body load n' pain'

Ez

[anjin]

you will vap most of the spice before it actually burns. btw impregnating is not even necessary, mixing works too. (same effect as sandwhiching)

the taste of "enhanced" herb is tolerable and if your looking for a breakthrough this is the most straightforward smoking method. little chance of fucking this up by burning the freebase or not getting in enough smoke in time.

even better: lace some b. caapi leaves and mix some 50:1 caapi extract or just straight harmaline with your spice. Instant ayahuasca voyage!. a hit can last for several hours depending on the amount of maoi present in the blend.

aussies call this "changa", only originally it's made with acacia resin.

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[porchy]

SWIM has become very interested in DMT and is wondering, if a set of accurate balances are not available, how would one measure the doses. Or is a scale necessary (unless you wanna get blasted to hyperspace!)


EDIT: Oh as iv already posted what is the best herb to extract DMT from. Im assuming Mimosa Hostilis (root bark) but just an assumption.

[KomodoMK]

Quick question:

Would it be unwise for someone with little to no experience with psychedelic or hallucinogenic drugs to try DMT first? I have a friend who wishes to try this whilst I personally think it's probably not a great idea I don't want to advise him until I have some more opinions.

Thanks.

[dancingbear]

No, it would not be a good idea. DMT is a total mindblower for even those who are experienced psychonauts. Your friend should start with LSD and/or shrooms first. And before that, he/she should read a lot about said substances and their respectful use.

[KomodoMK]

Originally Posted by dancingbear

No, it would not be a good idea. DMT is a total mindblower for even those who are experienced psychonauts. Your friend should start with LSD and/or shrooms first. And before that, he/she should read a lot about said substances and their respectful use.

Appreciate your reply! This is what I thought...

Any more comments would also be appreciated as sometimes this friend doesn't always listen to what advice his given and it would be nice to point him in the direction of this thread.

[DJ Dougpound]

Swim agrees with dancing bear. A strong dmt trip is seriously mind blowing. Swim has taken his fair share of psychedelics, but nothing came close to a strong dmt trip. There has been times when swim didn't think he was gonna be able to handle it because of the intensity. Swim recommends trying something that isn't as strong before stepping to dmt.

[nuffsaid420]

Originally Posted by KomodoMK

Appreciate your reply! This is what I thought...

Any more comments would also be appreciated as sometimes this friend doesn't always listen to what advice his given and it would be nice to point him in the direction of this thread.

This is a hard one. If your friend doesn't listen then he will be at a disadvantage. This is a conscious expanding drug, you download so much info that some people don't know how to respond to it. That is one aspect or perspective of why he shouldn't go for DMT first.

Different people have different psyches. As dancingbear stated that even for psychonauts who have had plenty of training in the different realms a DMT trip is still one of the most powerful to be had, so it is nice to have some training under your belt first. It is li,ke riding a bike, as kids we used training wheels then once we figured that out we took them off.

Swim suggests starting with LSD or Mushrooms, dont just walk into that dark forest without a guide or going in a few times first.

[shogun875]

Originally Posted by KomodoMK

Appreciate your reply! This is what I thought...

Any more comments would also be appreciated as sometimes this friend doesn't always listen to what advice his given and it would be nice to point him in the direction of this thread.

Not really what you want to hear but DMT was SWIM's first psychedelic and he did fine with it. He didnt 'break through,' mainly because he was amazed at the effects already and stopped concentrating on trying to smoke more, but it was still an amazing experience for him. SWIM had done lots of reading on psycedelics in general and DMT specifically and has (had) a outlook on reality that he feels works well with psychedelics and felt he would benefit from the experience.

if your friend has done lots of reading, feels ready and wants to do it for the right reasons (ie, not doing it just for kicks) then it could be an amazing experience for them, but it is definitly not something to do lightly

[BloodNutz]

Originally Posted by shogun875

if your friend has done lots of reading, feels ready and wants to do it for the right reasons (ie, not doing it just for kicks) then it could be an amazing experience for them, but it is definitly not something to do lightly

Bolding added.

DMT is not something to do lightly, I remember getting some of my best mates to do a full hit of about ~20-30mg DMT when they were drunk at the end of a friday night out, as they kept boasting about how they would do any drug and had never had a 'bad trip'. I dont think that some of them ever recovered from the shock they soon recieved

They were expecting something like weed. Comparing DMTs effects to weed is like comparing Alex Greys art with Rolf Harris's. Completely different league all together.

[Jasim]

^ If you're going to quote something, could you please share the source reference as well. Thanks.

[Motumba]

The pineal gland contains the necessary building blocks to make DMT. For example, it possesses the highest levels of serotonin anywhere in the body, and serotonin is a crucial precursor for pineal melatonin. The pineal also has the ability to convert serotonin to tryptamine, a critical step in DMT formation. The unique enzymes that convert serotonin, melatonin, or tryptamine into psychedelic compounds also are present in extraordinarily high concentrations in the pineal. These enzymes, the methyltransferases, attach a methyl group—that is, one carbon and three hydrogens—onto other molecules, thus methylating them. Simply methylate tryptamine twice, and we have di-methyl-tryptamine, or DMT. Because it possesses the high levels of the necessary enzymes and precursors, the pineal gland is the most reasonable place for DMT formation to occur. Surprisingly, no one has looked for DMT in the pineal.


According to Wiki'

Seretonin'

It is found extensively in the human gastrointestinal tract as about 80-90% of the body's total serotonin is found in the enterochromaffin cells in the gut.

Also Wiki'

In animals including humans, serotonin is synthesized from the amino acid L-tryptophan by a short metabolic pathway consisting of two enzymes: tryptophan hydroxylase (TPH) and amino acid decarboxylase (DDC). The TPH-mediated reaction is the rate-limiting step in the pathway. TPH has been shown to exist in two forms: TPH1, found in several tissues, and TPH2, which is a brain-specific isoform. There is evidence that genetic polymorphisms in both these subtypes influence susceptibility to anxiety and depression in humans. There is also evidence that ovarian hormones can affect the expression of TPH in various species, suggesting a possible mechanism for postpartum depression and premenstrual stress syndrome.[citation needed] Serotonin biosynthesis in plants likewise begins with L-tryptophan, which is however first decarboxylated by tryptophan decarboxylase to give tryptamine, which is then hydroxylated by the cytochrome P450 monooxygenase, tryptamine 5-hydroxylase, yielding serotonin.[18]
Serotonin taken orally does not pass into the serotonergic pathways of the central nervous system because it does not cross the blood-brain barrier. However, tryptophan and its metabolite 5-hydroxytryptophan (5-HTP), from which serotonin is synthesized, can and do cross the blood-brain barrier.

It wouldbegood if facts where facts' instead of stories' you have a link for of what you posted'

Be well'

Nobuoni +

[BloodNutz]

Originally Posted by Jasim

^ If you're going to quote something, could you please share the source reference as well. Thanks.

I'm pretty sure that was quote was originally from "DMT: The spirit molecule" by Strassman.

I just cant post any links yet. :/

Once someone gives me a bit of positive rep and I get my account status upgraded I should be able to add links and reference my quotes.

Hint... hint...hint...hint.

[wednesday]

i read the spirit molecule but then i read these couple articles about DMT that were very niice
http://www.serendipity.li/dmt/sacred.pdf
http://www.serendipity.li/dmt/weebit2.pdf