N,N-DMT experiences

[poptart]

heres a link to a satilite radio show

sorry to double post its just your link option dosent work

http://www.joerogan.net/albums/rogan...s_Life_002.mp3

[quantumbrujo]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

quantumbrujo: That sounds like what Bongo witnessed when a chimp he knew smoked a huge (50mg) dose of 5-MeO-DMT. He had to be restrained by 2 people. And that was difficult! Are you sure this was DMT?

Well Nagog,swim extracted it from MHRB which isn't supposed to have 5MEO in it.Plus isn't 5MEO not supposed to have any visuals?Perhaps a mix of the two? or perhaps Yuremamine(that other alk believed to be a MAOI).But then ,again jungle DMT isn't supposed to be soluble in naptha which is what swim used to extract.But it did come out yellowish and on this particular batch swim didn't recrystalize,he just did an ammonia wash.I guess he would have to have a lab analyze it to be sure of the exact constituents

[IHrtHalucingens]

A Friend of SWIMs was back in town for thanksgiving break and had some DMT that he had extracted, they made a lightbulb vaporizer and lit it up. They each smoked ~50mg, SWIMS buddy broke through and tripped pretty hard, while SWIM got barely a threshhold experience, he had mild OEVs and the lightheadedness and sweaty palms but nothing serious. He compares it to about 2 grams of average strength mushrooms. SWIM thinks that the lightbulb was very inefficiant, because it was hard tyo get the waxy powder all in one place and it got spread out too far to ensure the vaporizing of all the DMT needed for a breakthrough hit. SWIM found himself searching for about 30 minutes for all the left over melted substance all over in the bulb. At this point he felt he was trying too hard and expecting too much for it to be a successful trip so he gave up and will try another time with a better piece and more efficient method and hope he breaks through.

[CorvinusX]

SWIM turned to DMT as a last resort. An experienced psychonaut, he had gone through several phases of realization.

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The first concerned objective/subjective disjunction. It came with the introspective nightmare that characterizes the late stages of an acid trip. Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure had a profound influence on the formation of this theory.

From this he was free to construct an entire phenomenological system from the ground up. Saw things behind things. Less filtering. Things are shimmering. Glimmering. Everything is vibrant.

Mildly interesting. Soon became mundane.

[Applied via: Transmogrification. Intensification. Synaesthesia. Tasted textures. Saw sound. Re-associated the values of symbols (more semiotic than phenomenological). New colors, or just seeing the old ones for the first time? Highly schizophrenic. SWIM never lost sight of what was there, but he may have interpreted it as something else. Everything was like a carnival.]

Look into a mirror. Look into your eyes. See through them.

Then there were the ontological crises. Being and nothingness; death/life; God and his foil; agency and will vs. inertia; oneness, wholeness and emptiness. Structural relationships. Fractal abstractions; equivalency of vastness and emptiness. Did SWIM die? Does he know how he will die?

Time was discovered to be pliable. Events came from the past, were strongly reconstituted, entirely replaced the present. Was SWIM reliving them or simply living them? Transposition. Moments expanded. Five times the length of an infinitely small temporal quantum does not equal an infinitely small temporal quantum. Neither is it additive. Immediate past/present/future (?) were experienced simultaneously. Or, rather, the present was experienced as contemplation/perception/anticipation. Infrequently time was experientially retrograde [flowing in reverse] (this must have been subjective; I can't imagine how that would work).

....and the ever present eternity...

SWIM encountered a common, heavy, fire-proof pinewood door painted an institutional grey color. It was guarding the threshold to the lavatory. Contemplated it for 15 minutes. Saw into it. Empathized. Fulfilled its telos.

Problems. Fear. SWIM begins to drink gin and tonics. It occurred to him that one reagent was called "tonic." Because of strong faith in semiotics, the value and the sign were assumed to be in equivalence. "Tonic" fixes everything. Fear recedes.

Darkness. Dissociation. Now SWIM has completely left. He has merged with a musical string. If I recall correctly, SWIM became "Rhapsody in Blue." It doesn't make sense to me. That would mean he existed objectively.

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But these weren't the things he was seeking. None of this was asked for. He had previously learned to navigate, somehow, through the world. It had been familiar and sometimes wondrous and entirely coherent. Now nothing made sense. The worst part of it was, he would never be able to communicate what he had seen, nor even to adequately remember it. All he could ever know what that sometime, someplace things had been different. IT WAS REAL.

Wasn't it?

What SWIM had really been looking for was a little fun. He had heard that if you smoked DMT you could actually watch the clothes in your closet melt right off the hangars (in vibrant technicolor)! That was all he wanted.

Instead, he vaporized a pea-sized quantity of DMT extracted from mimosa hostilis...
...it tasted just like a plastic lawn chair...
...and left the familiarity of a closet and hangars somewhere else, far away, back in time, through some kind of wormhole.

SWIM didn't get to see the clothes melt off the hangars. But they never quite looked the same to him.

[This account is a composite. DMT smoked and taken orally are different in intensity, destination and time elapsed. These episodes occurred through both routes. SWIM has resorted to a lot of abstraction because it’s impossible to relay the exact experiential nature of a deeply spiritual/philosophic/introspective trip.]

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Intelligently and thought-provokingly put.

[zera]

Last night swim built a free base pipe out of a lightbulb, adhesive putty, two straws and a bottle cap. Seeing as how he didn't break through before he took 6 grams of harmala seeds as an MAOI. He loaded his pipe with 75-120 mg of DMT, his remaining stash, figuring he'd just smoke as much as he could and save the remainder in the pipe.

He dosed the harmala seeds orally from 1:40 am - 2:10 am, then determined at 3:20 am that he was suffeciently under the influence of the MAOI. He took one big hit, the plastic taste unmistakable, then took another smaller hit. After his first hit he could feel his body shaking, like a ton of bricks had hit him. After inhaling the second hit he managed to put the pipe down, lay back into the couch and close his eyes. Something, grasshopper like was staring at him eye to eye, then looking around his body. The eyes were much more vivid then the rest of the body. He shrugged his head around in some sort of twisted staring contest with the creature. All of a sudden it faded from view and a million images exploded in his mind's eye. Stars, and flying through them at warp speed, fractal patterns, and the like.

The trip took on the form that swim would look at something, which would make him think about something, then that thing would manifest itself in front of him. There was a little bit of erotic imagery as two nurses dressed in the type of uniform a nurse in a porno wears stared at him, then there was more of the hyperspace imagery. Finally there were massive structures made of rainbows. This whole time swims entire body was still except his head which was moving around like crazy. Swim opened his eyes, and everything around him started moving. Compared to other psychedelic visuals which tended to focus on one thing, these visuals seemed more encompassing. He noticed that the coffee table in front of him was changing size with his breathing, and that the legs of the chairs looked like they were breathing. Unlike with other psychedelics swim had no desire to get up and look around or wander, he was thouroughly amazed by what was around him and what was in his own head.

He decided to toke on the DMT again, and lit it up, taking two medium sized hits. This time he saw eyes that were quite different, vertical slits staring at him. The initial visuals were much darker in nature, at first he thought he wasn't going to see anything, then the background lit up in a twisted halloween fashion. At first he could only make out the eyes, then he made out surgeon like creatures from multiple directions examining him. This occured breifly before it degenerated into the fractal explosion, which then degenerated into images of travelling very very fast over very very long cosmic distances, which then degenerated into the erotic imagery of women, then finally back into fractals that morphed into animals. Swim opened his eyes and the visuals had much the same flavor to them. Swim was wonderstruck and kept saying "Wow." He got up and walked around to get some water and go to the bathroom, his body proportion sense and coordination had not quite returned. He turned on the television and watched a combination of MTV, Star Trek, Anime and other late night fare, still quite engrossed in a psychedelic glow. He was very into the anime, which he normally never watches.

He decided to toke again for a third time, this time the trip was of a somewhat different fare. Instead of immediately seeing the entities he saw of square, whose perimeter was made up of bird like creatures all lined up with their beak to the next one's back and a stage in the middle. The birds started moving their beaks mechanically and in synch, and finally several of them stood out and morphed into the entities, who this time seemed visibally upset that Swim kept coming back to DMT space. Swim wanted to get more out of the interaction than just having them stare at him, so he started taunting them and challenging them, whence two lion like creatures appeared to challenge Swim. Swim just kept telling, go ahead try to hurt me we live in different physical spaces. He could feel himself sitting there on his couch in his world (in a way that he imagines monks feel when in deep meditation, profoundly at physical peace), yet could feel his spirit transcending the worlds. The entities were getting pissed of swim, but before they could do anything, the entity phase gave way to the familiar flash of visuals.

This time swim's visuals seemed more realistic, he saw many earthly animals, he saw his roomate standing on a beach like something from Super Mario Bros 3 with a parrot saying "I love my parrot!" He was then in the mountains of Tibet in some grey domed monastery bowing to a row of monks and what appeared to the Dalai Lama. There was bright, happy imagery in all of his visuals. He also found himself staring into a 8 foot tall porn star's asshole at one point.

At this point it was around 5 am and he decided to smoke some pot. Lighting up a bowl it brought back many of the feelings and visuals from the DMT, as well as allowing swim to explore in a more controlled way some of the visuals he was getting from his last (bad) salvia experience two weeks ago. He understood the salvia process much better, the way it anthromorphizes furniture for him, he began to see the three windows in his field of view as some sort of stomp from mario, with a pelican like face looking at him. He came to the realization that marijuana is a memory drug and thought that to be very profound. He then decided to toke whatever was left in his pipe, taking three smallish hits.

This launched him back into DMT space, but at this point it was clear the entities were pulling out all the stops. He could literally feel himself being spun around very quickly, and most badass halloween like imagery being trudged out. Swim was a little less confident on his fourth then his third his voyage. The visual rush was pretty amazing and seemed more salvia like, because the weed was causing him to think about his last experience with it. It also was less clear being under the influence of pot. It still left him amazed, and probably caused him to trip longer than even before. Swim decided to post some stuff online (including a rant about anti-anti-drug commercials idea on this board and some facebook stuff). Writing felt much like it does on mushrooms, with a hundred little threads of thought coming off each sentence. The words he typed glowed in different colors, so it was an enjoyable experience. He finally got to bed around 7 am.


Some thoughts about the whole experience: Swim posted before asking about what to do to occupy yourself during a DMT trip, don't have anything. The DMT is far more intriguing than anything around you, forget music, it keeps you attached to this world instead of blasting off into DMT space. Don't do it around other people either, your brain's going to remain to much focused on them instead of the flood of information exploding inside of you. Under the influence every little sensory input becomes so magnified, swim could feel the twitch of his muscles, the sound of the heating system in his apartment building, the light coming through his closed eyes. Swim would very much in the future like to do what Joe Rogan did and smoke DMT then sit in a sensory deprivation chamber. That being said swim prefers sitting up against a couch to laying down, sitting up makes him feel like he's in much more control, probably the same reason that meditation is done in a sitting rather than lying position. The MAOI greatly enchanced the experience, allowing it to last longer and be more intense, swim suggests people trying mixing it with smoked DMT.

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Good story.

[Nagognog2]

That was an excellent report! Thank you - it goes in the Archives of Bongo.

[donkey rhubarb]

The idea of ingesting an MAOi before smoking is quite intriguing and it never really crossed my or SWIMs mind...

SWIM wanted to pass on some experience and general observations from SWIMs DMT experience.

To SWIM multiple experiences in a short amount of time is the way to go. Perhaps SWIM is fond of intensity, or perhaps SWIM just enjoys longer experiences. Often times for SWIM the first smoke of the evening is the most intense and really throws her mind for a loop, shows her where things are getting ooc in her life, where things are too dramatic, generally brings her back into balance. This experience is characterized by CEV.

SWIM then will often take a bit of a break as there is plenty of thought to digest. On some occasions SWIM will be known to drink a few beers before the adventure continues. SWIM knows some may find this blasphemous, but SWIM and SWIMs SWIM find it adds an almost MDMA-like body buzz to the experience.

At this point SWIM will then smoke ~200mg (total) over a half hour 10ish minutes in between experiences. This experience is quite different. The body buzz which was mentioned previously is simply unbelievable. If there are CEV SWIM never gets there as the OEV are so intense it doesn't even cross SWIMs mind to close her eyes.

The most interesting and slightly confusing aspect of the whole adventure is the next day (this is often done close to the time of sleep and sleep comes very very easily after such an experience). SWIM is often told her pupils are huge and SWIM still has visuals for a good 12 hours if SWIM looks for them (and on the right blanket even if SWIM isn't looking)

I know this isn't a discussion thread, but if anyone has similar experiences I would be very curious to hear about it...SWIM would like more information on the persistence of visuals and I told SWIM that I would pass on any info for her...

[Nagognog2]

Oh dear! A bad reaction! Or...it proves SWIM is still alive and isn't at the airport selling flowers in an orange robe.

Thank SWIM for sharing his vision of Hell.

"To fathom Hell or soar Angelic, just take a pinch of Psychedelic." - Humphrey Osmond

[Nagognog2]

Yep. And the "Brown Acid" at Woodstock had strychnine in it, dude....

For every amazing curvature of time and space, there must be it's opposite and equal reaction.

There was no strychnine in the Brown Acid.

[Yukio Mishima]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

Yep. And the "Brown Acid" at Woodstock had strychnine in it, dude....

Fine sir, SWIM was not stating that he believes in 'jungle DMT.' On the contrary, he had a trip that was like the 'jungle DMT' experiences with non-jungle DMT. Whether or not there is such a thing as 'jungle DMT' SWIM does not know. He doesn't know of anyone who's run it through by a lab.

For every amazing curvature of time and space, there must be it's opposite and equal reaction.

Agreed.

[Yukio Mishima]

Damn, post should read "...like the putative 'jungle DMT' experiences he's heard described..."

[Yukio Mishima]

BTW, has SWIY ever heard of "yurememine?" SWIM doesn't want to deviate too far off the topic, but he's heard of this as being possibly the key ingredient of so-called 'jungle DMT.' He has no clue if there's any validity to this.

[JinxedSoul]

Swim had a pretty intense trip today. Swim smoked around 30-40mg out of his gandalf hash pipe on top of some dried & crushed salvia leaf (small amount). Took most of it all in one hit and began to feel it right away so he put the pipe down and held it for a long time, when he exhaled only a small puff of smoke came out. Swim closed his eyes right away and began to watch as colourful kaleidoscope patterns spun around and 4 entities that kinda resembled those wacky inflatable tube men you see at car lots. Dancing about and beckoning swim to join in on the fun (or at least thats what it seemed like, they never really said anything.) But the intense thing was Swim could see though his eyelids. He kept opening his eyes and closing them again because he wasn't sure if they were actually closed but they where cause i could only see the entities when there were closed. Basically with eyes open he saw his living room all melty like but with his eyes closed he saw the entities and the patterns but with his living room in the background slightly out of focus. It was wild, Swim had a huge grin on his face the whole time. Has anyone else been able to see through thier eye lids while on dmt?

[dancingbear]

Good stories from SWIYs. SWIM will share a new one from him soonish, he hopes.

[_caesar_]

SWIM has to write this down, firstly thanks to dancingbear with his advice on the MHRB extraction which SWIM pulled only 80MGs of what SWIM considers safe DMT, SWIM lost patience through the process and wasted a lot of product. Anyway he’s very happy with his first DMT experience.

He smoked a about 60MGs in a pipe, He cant think of the nahim of the type of pipe now but one with a secure bulb that captures all the smoke.

Anyway it was hard to smoke all at once so a few hits were taken over 20 mins or so, SWIM cant say he really broke through. SWIM was always in his sitting room and was always aware of that.

In a way he regrets ‘polluting’ his mind as it were over the last months and especially the last few days with reading many dmt experience reports and McKenna’s talks of hyperdimensional machine elves.

Soon after the first hit the room started to change, objects becahim clearer, and morphed slightly, kind of like the T1000 in Terminater 2. His head felt weird, sore in a way, actually cohim to think of it it felt like it was being crushed in a vice.

As I’ve said SWIM has sohim regrets in the amount of DMT experiences he’s read of late and did want to break into hyperspace and see these machine elves.

Well he didn’t he was in his room the whole time, BUT and that’s a big BUT.

He could see many entities, not as SWIM imagined them from what McKenna said and he’s very happy for that because SWIM believes (well maybe SWIM wants to believe) that they were not totally created by his consciousness from his preconceptions of the experience.

Anyway, head ripped apart. A sound in his ears like tinnitus. SWIM closed his eyes and he could see them, they were happy to see me. He felt like being in sohim type of chamber, all orange and yellow.

There was a sound of dripping liquid, which was quite soothing.

There was tentactles coming at him millions of them, they seemed to cohim not only from the chamber but from sohim kind of being that engulfed the 'room' but also seemed to be on his right hand side. But there were others, all encompassed in this womb/room as it were.

They were multidimensional, its had to explain. It was as if SWIM was engulfed in multidimensional place but within it there were separate shadows that took humanoid form but they were two dimensional imposed on the multidimensional space.

They were erotic and seemed of no particular gender, but at times seemed male. And boy were the sexy, teasing him and taking on the forms of humanoid females. And they were saying 'do this do this' but I'm not sure what they wanted him to do, SWIM tried to give in to what they wanted. From what seemed to be his right was sohim kind of more mechanic like life form and its tentacle was examine his brain but it hurt so it retreated, it was timid and non intrusive. The whole tihim the more humanoid forms were trying to show him shit but SWIM couldn’t see what it was. Like they had objects in their hands and were reaching out their arms to show him but SWIM couldn’t see what was in their hands as it disappeared out of his field of vision. SWIM could here them laugh and say, 'stay, try harder, do this'.

The whole tihim if SWIM opened his eyes SWIM was still in his room but SWIM could still see all this but it was transparent and harder to distinguish from his living room.

Then this insect type of creature started to fuck me, like when a dog tries to ride your leg.

Then this other machine like entity started to examine the left side of his brain, but it really felt uncomfortable, SWIM dont know if it was trying to implant stuff or learn from him but it was sore. SWIM tried to let it do what it had to but it hurt and it couldn’t carry out its task. It kind of becahim angry and so did a few of the other entities.

Then the images started to fade and SWIM started to cohim down, they were saying to each other "its ok, he'll be back he'll be back"

[Infinite I]

Hello all, great reports here thats why swim wanted to share his!

Swims first experience was, im sure 30mg not a lot going by some peoples storys but anyhoo he was taking it with someone who he didnt know very well and thats maybe why he freaked a bit but then it is dmt

After 3 deep tokes swim felt a strong physical rush and then he started seeing like pencil drawing faces in the oily air like almost mocking him and hed turn his head away and theyd jump in front of him, quite malevolant making fun sort of then swim said ohh i dont think i like this and shut his eyes to hide, then he opened them again and it was lots of oily watery liquid everywhere with triangles and cirlcles and patterns thick in the oily watery air, then swin could see like a horned typed being coming through and hes like oh no i dont like this and he jumped up of his seat and went into the bathroom, swim has lots of african faces in his bathroom and they just went into infinity, so clearly, and then after looking at this he could see a tall lizard like being and he said to himself oh no thats they lizards, swim beleived in shapeshifting reptiles before so maybe thats why hes seeing this, but still he thought !!??

Then swim came back into his living room with his sitter, freaking out pacing back and forth oh i dont like this i dont like this hes saying then he said i feel like i want to cry his sitter says do what you like and he grabbed onto a partition and grabbed a bit of cappi vine and orgonite it converts negative energy into positive (if you want to know what that is check this out www.orgone.info) this was to help ground him, and as swim grabbed onto the partition he bent over and started crying and bawling like hes never done in his life not from sadness or fear well maybe a little fear lol but swim says it was as if it was a big ball of emotion stuck inside him and he had to let it out, and they werent even real tears just lots of wetness around the eyes, though he feels he probably needed that!! After the trauma and he calmed down hes like what was that ? and in hindsight he seen it as something that had to be explored more and he took a lot of positives out of it, it was the most terryfing and beautiful experince all in one ! lol

His second experience wasnt as severe tho he was scared and grabbed onto his brother for dear life but this didnt last, he thinks it was a bit more tho his smoking technique wasnt great and he thinks he burned it.

After those experiences swim wanted to make his own and did using the marsofold tec, the exact same technique though the spice didnt seem quite the same, after a few low level doses he had a bit more, sorry i cant tell you the amount as he just doesnt know, first few attempts very light good visuals but nothing extreme, but it just didnt seem the same as his friends stuff even though it was low doses.

Apologise again but he didnt know the doses and after a few beers swim and his friend decided to do a big hit between them, his friend earlier had had his first two experiences and liked them like swim did. Swim thought it wasnt working so took another toke on it then all of a sudden it felt very inscetoid like very earthy and he could see this tall horned being in the room jumping round him very fast and it was being very intimidating so swim shut his eyes and lay on his side and when he did all he could see was dodechadrons, swim won one of these from an orgonite website but it was yet to arrive, it channels energy using intent to boost peoples energys and it was as if this entity wasnt happy about that but when swim opened his eyes again he was covered in like glow in the dark fleas with big smiley eyes and a big smile and they were jumping on his shoulders making high pitched playful noises, as if they were trying to chill him out, even tho it was quite discomforting and this being was still there jumping around but they took the focus of him and were there to help or so it would seem in hindsight.

As swim said when he first took that last toke it felt very earthy and swim has seen those very same fleas on high doses of mexican mushrooms and at the time swim and his friend before it got a bit crazy said exactly that, like they felt like inscets !!?? lol and low and behold swim had been waiting for the dodec for weeks and it arrived the next day think someone wasnt happy bout that!!

The next big dose swim had was in a dark room and his friend went first, his friend was making lots of strange noises which grounded swim and it was closed eyed visuals chromes and silvers and dark colours. Swim was kept grounded by his friend who was making worrying sounds and swim opened his eyes and sat up and his friend jumped up saying, im not sure how long they were lying there, his friend satrted saying oh there were loads of negative spirits and he didnt want to talk to them but at this time swim was getting strong open eye visuals and he turned round and seen this entity with a hawk like face, like the scary masks people in victorian times used to wear, or they were in a crap film called eyes wide shut youll know the type of face swim means and it did seem negative just by its appearance but it was really quite indifferent to swim just looked scary to him. And swim turned round to his companion and it was as if there were loads of things around him, tho that could have been the shimmering efects of the dmt he sometimes gets. After they could see each other they calmed down an realised they were back, though swim feels he didn go as far as his friend due to his noises grounding him, in a sense.

Swims pretty sure hes not had a proper breakthrough cos a lot of the time he knows who he is though he does want to go further.

And what do you guys think of swims crying on his first experience, and why a lot of negative entitys ? even the first stuff he tried there was an element of that but not as severe as the last two, tho the last one didnt effect swim so much, could it be the spice, because they do seem diffeerent?? made the same way though! or it could well be the smoking technique swims very new to this really but cant wait to go further!!

cheers for reading if you do ! just had to get all that out been meaning to for a long time !

Peace and Love

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Nice experience report. Thanks for sharing

[Infinite I]

Last night swim had his first completely positive journey, he had been taking mdma, so maybe this may have added to the positive reaction and his smoking technique has improved.

Swim felt as if he was surrounded by very benevolant spirits all happy to have him in there space it seemed very feminine like loads of these spirits were dancing round him and passing through his body filling him with love like old hippy ladies or something usually when swims took the spice, well this batch anyhoo its been quite scary and overwhelming but this time he felt as if the spirits were reasurring him trying to fill him with love and not to freak out.

As swim said he is a novice and he has trouble letting go tho this was the furthest hed went by himself and as he was freaking a little he went to turn the music up to keep him here but the spirits kept flying through him or so it seemed and it was as if they opened up his heart chakra and just filled him with pure love loads of them passing through him then he heard them say dont panic look out the window, youll be ok, swim then looked out the window and there were loads of birds flying around, this was real, not dmt real, real our reality real and there were gulls pigeons sparrows ducks and red and black birds that live in the pond in the park about a half mile from me, and they were just walking around, theyd have to cross a busy road and walk way up my street in a very built up city environment, swims never seen a duck or the red and black birds in his street and hes lived here for well over a year! one of the gulls started to hover up to swims window, swims 3 floors up and the gull was eyeballing swim, then 3 or 4 would swoop fast past swims window looking right at him and sqwaking, the amount of birds congregating outside swims house was ridiculous, it was as if theyd picked up on swims altered state, and it felt as if the spirits were showing him these birds as if they were pure program in the matrix like it was an illusion and the birds were characters in the computer game that is reality , but then that could be swims preconceptions about a lot of his personal views on reality. Which are being questioned more and more!!

Strangely swim told his father about his experiences and he said straight away his girlfriends aunt had been in australia and had been followed by a bird and she thought it was the spirit of someone she knew. A friend of a friend of swim said he smoked salvia and he went through a whole evolution in a trip and ended up becomiing an eagle!! Has anyone else experienced anything to do with birds at all ?

Swim clearly hasnt been to realms that others have been to and he apologises for his well, not very good explanation of things it did happen last night so hes trying to get it out while its still there, it was the most positive experience with the spice hes ever had maybe it was the ecstasy or maybe the summer solstice , but it felt as if the universe, at that time loved him in a ridiculous way the one thing that stuck clearly was them saying, you are me and I am you and you are love, could be my preconceptions tho

Peace and Love

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Interesting report, thanks.

[Yukio Mishima]

Swims first experience was, im sure 30mg not a lot going by some peoples storys but anyhoo he was taking it with someone who he didnt know very well and thats maybe why he freaked a bit but then it is dmt

If SWIY wants to break through, he should try to go for at least 50 mg. SWIM often can break through on 50, but not always. 55 seems to be guaranteed. However, SWIM can relate to SWIY's reluctance to go all the way. When SWIM started doing DMT, he would stop smoking when there was still a lot of DMT in the pipe because he started to feel pretty far out already while he was smoking, so he pulled back. SWIM eventually got comfortable enough. SWIY will too, once SWIY gets a good feel for it.

[Feelingood]

SWIM developed HPPD awhile back from a chemical known only as Analogue, the way it was described(something like a extra reaction to lsd) SWIM thinks it might've been something from TIKHAL. anyway, he only took about 20mg, some leftovers he had forgot about. Usually nice headspace and mild visuals. but the amazing thing was, after the trip his HPPD symptoms were gone! colors were normal again, the trails were gone, and i could clearly see the outlines to objects. Anyone experienced anything like this?

[BillyBong]

SWIM's past experience in psychedelics was limited to LSA containing seeds. Those experiences had similarities to this experience; however, they were not nearly as "brain melting". While LSA often proved to be almost lycanthropic in nature, with the self becoming altered, DMT focuses more on everything but the self. It became very clear why people talk about the dissolution of the ego and a sensation of being detached from the body.

SWIM mixed 100mg of n,n-DMT into 6ml of olive oil and injected the mixture rectally. This resulted in the strangest experience SWIM has ever had, both visually and textually. Thoughts were clear, but the ability to express those thoughts was severely impaired. Most of the visuals were similar to those seen during severe sleep deprivation, so in a way SWIM had already gotten his feet wet with naturally produced DMT from his own brain. Some of the patterns became quite complex, however, and looked very Aztec and Navajo all at the same time.

Visual perception was vastly distorted; everything appeared to be moving. SWIM turned on the TV and saw that Bill O'Riley's was on, which isn't a big deal in and of itself, except for the fact that Bill kept getting a "third eye" on his forehead. One surprising thing SWIM noticed was how much more pronounced data compression in video became. Even tiny pixels became noticeably large. Time became much dilated and occasionally, sounds would start to sound "metalized".

The overall sensation was very smooth and was much akin to the sensation one has at the peak of a yawn while simultaneously breathing nitrous oxide at the dentist office. One might also describe the sensation of DMT as "conscious sleeping". Although SWIM would not call the experience "beautiful", it was very fun. Even the most simple of things were wildly entertaining.

Insights learned from the experience: The Human Race and The Earth are one and the same.

SWIM enjoyed the experience and will be doing this again.

[Feelingood]

To SWIMs post two up, it turned out to be only temporary. his HPPD was back within 3 hours, with subtle differences when he closed my eyes. it seems to have left its own little imprint on my visuals. damn.... swim was really happy for awhile there.

[podious]

N,N-DMT has been the only compound that has helped swim to have a religious experience.

Swim vaporized some dmt outdoors near a small lake. It was nighttime, and it was a beautiful dark night, with tons of stars in the sky. Anyways, swim vaped the dmt and got the usual high-pitched ring --> buzzzZZZ --> wooOSSHHHH (blasted into the astral realm).

Instead of an alien form of life (which swim had experienced many times with DMT), there appeared hundreds of pyramid shaped faces with one eye in front of swim. They gazed at swim and said nothing for what seemed like forever. Finally, they all simultaneously said "I love you, and I am here for you." in a metallic, flanged female voice. They exploded in a burst of twinkling colors and replaced the stars in the sky.

Swim was very shook up at what all this meant, and abruptly got up and began to walk aimlessly through the meadow he was near. He eventually walked home and described his experience to his closest friend, and partner in enlightenment. They figured out that the pyramid figure was the "all-seeing/all-knowing eye" aka "the eye of the creator" aka: the higher power (God in swim's case). Swim realized that God would always be there for him (the reference to the stars in the sky), and life has been beautiful ever since.

Swim has also found that using this substance in secluded outdoor locations is the best. Nature is beautiful; a sunset is f*****g amazing, mindblowing, to witness.

He could not stress to me enough how powerful this substance can be, and how useful it can be. SWIM has had numerous occasions where he has alot of "unwanted emotional baggage" weighing him down, but after a DMT experience it has all been left behind at the location he vaporized it at. Very useful and beautiful, a definite ally if one can figure out how to use it and how to integrate one's experience.

[pinkandfluffy]

Dose: 2 30 mg doses (the second one roughly 30)
Body wieght: 10 stone
Sex: Male
Other chemicals ingested: Swim was pretty stoned, at least by the second time, and also had a couple of beers. It didn't seem to inhibit it at all - perhaps the cannabis intensified the second, it is hard to say.

Swim tried DMT for the first time last night. He tried it on two different occasions, (spaced out about three hours in between). Swim was told it was plant extracted.

The first was 30 mg, but swim doesn't think he smoked it all. His throat had quite an immediate reaction, and he couldn't breathe out properly, preventing him from taking another toke - the first being quite small. When he eventually got another one in, the tolerance was probably too built up.

In any case, swim conked out and was in another world. He lay doen on some grass (in actual fact it all just took place on a sofa) and watched a star/fireworks display, all swirling around with many different colours - the prevalance being blue - against a nightsky. It was extremely pleasureable and powerful, and didn't seem to last as long as it actually did.

The second was just the second toke from someone elses pipe, but swim htinks he got more this time, and was more prepared. Swims entire body was buzzing, and the visuals were less distinct but still very overpowering. It went through stages of being slightly too intense, even slightly unpleasurable, but thinking back swim would want to have this experience again. Swim also this time tried getting up and moving about, and opening his eyes. He mainly danced about like a fool with a big grin on his face (and found it tricky but fun to stand up). He didn't trip visually much with his eyes open in the way of patterns and colours, but it was still a very strong hallucingoenic experience... it is hard to describe quite how.

[JumpinJackFlash]

Dose: 30mg (Smoked)
Gender: Male
Body Weight: 10 Stone
Onset: 10 Seconds
Duration: 10 Minutes (estimate), all intermediate timings are educated guesses.

Other intoxicants in system:

MDMA (est: 500mg over 5 hours)
Ketamine (est: 500mg over past 8 hours)
Alchohol (est: 4-8 Units over past 8 hours)

Previous experience with psychadelics (apologies is some of the names are a bit out):

2cb, AMT, 2ce, 2c-t-21, 5-meo-mipt, Ketamine, LSD, Mushrooms, Salvia, 4-aco-DMT, 4-ace-mipt, 2ci

On the last day of a festival in the United Kingdom SWIM was offered some DMT, he duely obliged. The location was indoors in a messy hotel room, there were 5 other people present in the room, SWIM was sitting down in an upright position.

T: 0 - 10 Seconds

SWIM's friend lit the specialised DMT glass pipe and SWIM took one very large breath filling SWIM's lungs, coughing slightly but managing to keep most of the smoke in for atleast 5 seconds before breathing it out. SWIM blinked once and the table infront of him and the various detritus on it (bottles, food packages etc.) became immediately more cartoonish, everything became at once more yellow. SWIM blinked again and the objects on the table in front of him became unrecognisable as real objects, instead they were primary or lurid coloured depictions of these obejects in quite simple form (no shading, writing etc.)

T: 10 - 30 Seconds

SWIM's friend said goodbye, as SWIM moved from a sitting to a lying position, then all sense of reality disappeared in the following second as all the objects moved into a linear grid made of diaganol lines, with each object in it's own individual diamond which were all different colours. The objects in the diamonds then became different objects flicking between each other kind of like an old school analog departure board at a train station. All the objects and diamonds then began to spin. SWIM can remember very little in great detail for the following few minutes.

T: 30 Seconds - 5 Minutes (?)

A few things that SWIM does remember are his throat shattering, kind of like glass, with the accompanying noise. He also remembers the feeling of heavy rain eroding his body and face. He also had 6 hands at one point and they were crawling all over his body like snakes. His friend appeared to be talking an alien language, which went something like this "plip-plip-ploppity-plip"...SWIM has no idea what he was talking about.

T: 5 - 7 Minutes

After a few minutes SWIM came back to reality, but couldn't really see much, but he was aware that his fingers were tapping on his chest in a rhytmic motion...he probably still thought they were snakes.

T: 7 - 8 Minutes

SWIM then sat up again. All of his friends faces were made up of different objects, mainly vegatables, but there forms were definately visable.

T: 8 - 10 Minutes

SWIM was a bit shook up mentally, but back to normal physically. His friends faces became less abstract quite quickly, moving from vegatble matter to drawn faces, to cartoonish outlines and back to normal again, almost in a reverse manner to the onset of the drug. SWIM was very shook up by the whole experience, and it was definately the most powerful psychadelic experience he has ever had.

Good shit mind!

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Sounds powerful indeed. Thanks for the report!
	Good post/report! ;)

[dancingbear]

Good report, Jack! Ain't it a powerful thing? SWIM is in total awe the substance, and very rarely dares to tap into it.