N,N-DMT experiences

[Marsofold]

In the future, please reference such experiences to your friend "SWIM"...

[clown]

Guess its time for me to tell the recent storys of SWIM and his use with dmt. Swim has dealt with many psychedellics over the past 5 years or so. Multiple strong mushroom trips, multiple lsd trips, a bunch of pure dxm trips when he was younger, had breakthroughs with salvia. I knew psychedellics could impress and amaze you, and also open your mind completly..but SWIM never knew just how much. So swim obtained some dmt from rootbark (thanks mars). I will now try to explain all the trips in the best detail SWIM can recall.

1st time - (eyes closed) SWIM was launched down a tube full of colorful dots, super fast. When he came out on the other side he was on a table. With a bunch of the "elves" running all around him..jumping in him, running up to his face, and checking on him. He returned back to his home planet with strange orange and green overtones but classical "tripping" visuals for the most part. (swirls and patterns) he couldnt see the faces of these elves he just knew they were there and looking at him.

2nd time - (eyes open) Swim this time desided to keep his eyes open...on exhalation his world became blocky. Everything was perfectly strait and had its place. The walls then formed 4 blocks, just 4 cubes, 2 side by side on top, 2 side by side on bottom. The top left block folded over the top right, then this folded down onto the bottom right then over to the bottom left, continuing in this pattern for a couple seconds. Then they appeared, running all around swim, then he had one on each side of him. They were throwing something swim couldnt focus on back and forth but he knew in his heart it was beautiful and amazing.

3rd time - (eyes closed) This time when swim entered dmt land he was greeted by a female elf. He could see her pretty clearly. She led him to a hall and showed him many beautiful flashing objects. Also showed how things could again stick to the wall and flip. Almost like sideways gravity. When swim came back this time, he felt great love for his best friend, who was being his sitter. This was one of the most intense feelings of love..not gay or anything but true in the heart, im here for you kinda stuff.

4th time - (eyes closed) This trip is a bit faded for swim. He remember seeing someone who he thought for sure was Terrence Mckenna (swim had been doing alot of reading about Terrence/DMT) Terrence and the female elf were showing swim something but it really is fuzzy for him. When he returned back to his body he realized that his bestfriend and sitter was actually him. Swim had the realization that him and his best friend were connected in some way other then on this plane of existance.

5th time - (eyes open) This time swim was with a different friend, a friend of similar mind though. This friend is probably about 2x as old as swim, but a experienced psychonaught / deadhead. Swim wanted to show him the powers of dmt which he was successful in doing and swims friend had a great experience..but back to swims. After his friend got back swim decided to launch. Swim exhaled his last hit and layed back looking up at the ceiling fan. As the world stated to change the blades of the ceiling fan were flashing all sorts of colors and almost looked like a flower. Then the blades began flipping off the ceiling fan..across the ceiling..down the wall.. when swim describes this flipping its like the object is flat against the wall then flips end over end but sticking to the surface too. The elves were back too, running all around doing their thing. When swim came back he felt an amazing love for this friend too. This friend expressed to swim that swim was a true friend to him not just an aquaintence..This made swim feel even better...everytime swim comes back from this world his body is in pure euphoria. Swim then realized that this friend too was him.

Swim is now thinking its DMT's way of showing him that we are all from the same drop in the flow of life. Swim has never been one into religion or afterlife, but DMT is starting to change his opinion. DMT is a very very powerful psychedellic, He never in his life imagined anything like dmt world, and as someone else said its a place swim would like to be at forever. DMT has started to bring swim innerpeace and happyness, he plans to continue to visit this world and try to learn more. Swim hopes to see you all there

[peregrin23]

firstly let swim say that the following is an account of a series of adventures told to him by a very close friend and has no bearing on swim's own life and therefore is to be taken with a grain of salt or whatever else.
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1998 sydney,australia
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"i had in the course of life been aware for a while of the existence of DMT(through reading 'the invisible landscape',talking to friends and otherwise being in and around that kind of reality)
"it was while reading a terence mckenna interveiw in that months wired magazine that i was seized with a tremendous urge to go there myself.
i immediately left,jumped a taxi with a friend and went to a house where i knew there to be a maker of such a thing and apon entering the basement would you believe that he was sitting there with one full dose appparently waiting for me,i bartered 25 grams of tobbaco and sat down."
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1st exp- approx 50mg amber crystal
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"'Gastro' placed glass crack pipe to my mouth and told me to relax,
i consumed three large lungfuls of acrid smoke and life as i knew it was forever changed.
a tremendous whining humming noise and a floating 4 dimensional sculpture/mandala appeared with a glowing hot pink vulva in its centre,
peircing through the middle i found myself in a boundless red cavern/womb made up of shifting geometric grid patterns.
in the centre of this was a glowing white form,a being in a constant state of flux ,faceless ,breasts with no nipples and very busy in its creation/play with another sculpture of indescribable beauty and complexity.
"almost as soon as i was aware of her she had turned and rushed towards me,instantly attaching to my left temple which gave me the curious sensation of existing simultaneously back in my corporel body and this strange new one.(my left temple "back there"actually began to heat up)
"this engagement was terrifying,my whole entirety was being scanned down to every individual atom and thought.
I felt helpless and weak,this beings intelligence was vast ,alien and incomprehensible.
This lasted for what seemed an eternity before an instinctual reflex kicked in and i PUSHED causing her to disengage and i immediately found myself back in "reality",albeit one made up of unsolid lines of rainbow fractals,
a "reality i could never again take for granted.
I lay like this for five or so minutes,observing solid form slowly reintegrate and become "normal".
Not wanting to chat i thanked 'gastro' and left, a great smile on the inside, for all my secret beliefs and hopes had been made real,all the fairytales of my youth validated and forever i would know that there is a teeming,invisible multiverse constantly at work just waiting for me to come and play."
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1998 Tasmania,Australia
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"Having bartered an amount of raw opium for one gram of DMT i set forth,determined to change the world,i had a mission, and that was to shout the glory of this newly discovered reality to all who would listen
and even those who would not.
And so i gave a lot away and sat in on a lot of friends journies but did not go there again until it felt right."
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exp-2 approx 25mg amber crystal
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"sitting in a friends loungeroom i prepared three small doses(25mg each)as my two friends did not want a breakthrough experience,having helped them i had two sharp pulls on the pipe myself.
This time was quite different,gentle and washed in sun,i did not close my eyes, interested instead to see what the experience was like fully concious.
The room again lost solid form,seemed to breath with a life of its own, and my friends skin,ahh was amazing i could see right through and their inners were made of twisting golden snakes rippling around like a psycedellic blood stream,i could sense but not see a host of presences that my friend could see and was calling'dakini's',they seemed loving and inquisitive and there presence perhaps helped my other friend who was body locked and rigid,intent on fighting an experience anathema to his core.
After ten minutes it was over and i was left happy and relaxed."
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"my brother had just had a baby so a friend and i journied down to the tasman peninsula to greet the new human.
That evening we were to sleep in a tiny hand built shingle yurt,beautifully crafted with a little opening in the roof to allow a small pit fire.The entire dwelling stood only 5 foot tall,and surrounded by beautiful temperate rainforest seemed an ideal location to attempt another breakthrough experience."
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exp-3 approx ? amber crystal
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"So,we lit a fire made our beds and began the ritual,my friend went first(his first time)and having seen that he was fine(he was just hovering on the peripherary and did not need a sitter)i noticed there was a large amount left in his pipe ,so not wanting to waste any i relit and was suprised to get three large hits.
I had no time to notice anything as at this point i lost conciusness.....I awoke on my feet or rather foot as i was standing with arms in an eagle position with one leg raised and the other bent(similar to the karate kid)i did not immediately notice this as my mind was not my own,instead it had been replaced by a being i cannot really describe,the top half of my body was that of a hawk,the bottom human but the mind was truly alien,cold and predatory in its feel yet curiously comfortable and non invasive.
My friend told me that at this point i was doing what could only be described as some kind of shamanic dance,a swooping shuffle.which in a confined space with a lit fire caused a small amount of alarm.
Slowly however i came back to myself with no discernable shift in reality,instead i became aware of the yurt, who's walls were revolving and opening between each slat as if breathing ,wheeling tibetanesque mandala's rolling across my vision as well as assorted peculiar phenomena,looking up i noticed the roof was also revolving in sections counter to each other with each section getting progressively smaller and made up of a ring of tiny skulls,my friend was also witnessing the same thing and we both became aware of a LOT of animal noise coming from the surrounding forest,as though the critters were aware of the craziness going on(this was not to be the last time i would notice this.)
Things gradually reconfigured themselves and overwhelmed i hugged my friend in appreciation in him being there as an anchor,and so exhuasted,we slept."
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2001 "Earthcore"victoria.
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"After an extended self-imposed hiatus from the tryptamine worlds i left tasmania and sought warmer(vaguely)climes,finding myself at a crazy drug fuelled techno festival,a couple of days into this i grew tired of repetitve beats and sought solace up the river,gradually calmed, my mind cast back to a carlos casteneda book i had read some years previous,a section of this book described finding a power spot by tuning in to its energy,so as i walked i tried to tune in and find a spot for myself.
after a few minutes i found a spot that felt warmer than the rest, stopped and sat.
after sitting for a few minutes i felt noticeably refreshed and clear and,spying a large amount of cow bones scattered around the natural circle i was in i marked the perimeter as by this time i had already decided on coming back the next day with my lover who was very interested in trying DMT for the first time.
Making our way back the next day i was very excited ,trepidacious but a lot calmer then in the past.
We sat and i explained the importance of intent and clarity,to try and not get distracted by the patterns,to remain objective.
In saying this i realised that my only intention was to focus on love which was quite easy as i was deeply in love at this time."
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5th exp-approx 55-60 mg
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"My lover wished to observe so i went first and upon entry found myself floating down on a platform to a vast checkerboard area ringed by huge pillars and no roof,in the middle? were two beings one dark and the other light,in fact the lady i had met on my first journey,this time however she was most welcoming,they both were in fact,busily trying to make me aware-of -this-thing-take-this-thing which i could not,for the life of me do,so after a while the short,shadowed man(who looked suspiciously like myself-could just make out a little goatee and the whole vibe seemed very familiar)grabbed this thing, which i can only describe as a 4 dimensional key/crack pipe,and with a hint of impatience placed it on my left temple!and began to smoke a thick liquid rainbow substance which seemed to give him great pleasure,laughing and puffing,this actuelly felt quite nice,nothing was being taken away and i was aware enough of myself at this point to focus on love and in doing so found myself instantly taken to a a strange control type room where i was placed in a machine with a lot of tubes and things i could not begin to fathom.
A number of these tubes were placed into my body and i became aware of what i can only describe as three goddess type beings one on either side and the other(my original friend who i call the gate-keeper)at my head.
The overwhelming sense was deep deep love ,almost orgasmic in its intensity,with all three repeating over and over their love for me,this was and is one of the most beautiful things i have experienced and at its peak,with tubes all over cleansing and sucking,they placed the same key/pipe straight into my third eye where it remains to this day(unsure as to what its for)
That was about it,on coming back i was almost deafened as it seemed as though every bird in the area had converged and started singing at the same time,my lover was sitting with eyes wide,amazed at the spectacle.,and as i cleared we prepared her journey............."
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And that was it swim's friend had no more tales to tell.he did however tell swim that there really are no words with which to bring back and do justice,our language as it stands is infantile and impotent,the stories themselves murky with the touch of time and he also stressed that the truly important aspect to DMT is not in the details(entities,elves, arabian castles etc-)but in the undeniable fact that we are all in possesion of a tool with which to understand a little more,the Overmind and all the earthshaking things this could mean.
His stories swim found interesting so he thought he'd share with y'all.

[thinkcooper]

SWIM was successful with an MHRB extraction - 4 grams out of one pound of bark. He decided to assay his work tonight and was pleasantly entertained.

50mg. With eyes open, SWIM saw gray, orange, green, brown and glowing blue colors taking over the real colors on his desk and home office. All objects were surrounded by halos of vibrating colors, with crisp graphic outlines that shifted as they wriggled around. Overhead, sperm shaped tendrils of wet, purplish gray matter hung down, and absurd mathematical patterns flashed all around on their surface. The giant sperm seemed to be trying to impregnate the ceiling. As SWIM gazed, he found that he had a sensation of crossing his eyes, and was able to draw deeper into the patterns, look around corners, and see through to the inverse of the room.

The patterns didn't flow like a fluid, but instead were jagged, intertwined, and pulsing. Mathematical symbols blended into fundamental icons such as crosses, stars and the male/female symbols.

Then a redheaded cyclops woman with thinning hair, nearly bald, appeared briefly, whimsically stuck her tongue out at SWIM and made him giggle, then vanished into thin air. Many things that were absurd caused SWIM to smile in disbelief. The visuals were mocking SWIM, a conspiracy of sorts, telling him how silly he was to be in his office with all this craziness going on.

Time seemed to be standing still, SWIM had trouble believing that the visual was still going on, and he had a flash that was trapped in this state, but quickly settled in and smiled.

SWIM then closed his eyes, and received strong messages about people in his life. He's feeling appreciative of his wife, and kids. It's fuzzy from here out.

It's about 45 minutes since SWIM stabilzed. He did some drawings on the white board that were wonderful cues to the experience. SWIM is going to share this experience many friends.

Marsofold - thank you for the tek.

[OBinsanity]

I wrote a poem about a dmt experience...it doesn't rhyme, but it's definitely fiction...

So i put nearly 4 doses in one bowl, in my short bong...and hit it as hard as i can, and burn up nearly all the demster...i start seeing everything in a kaleidascope, seperate chunks of reality, kind of spinning around, it was a beautiful pattern...but i decided to finish it off, to get the full amount of what i loaded, so i hit it again...the seperate pieces from the kaleidascope shatter apart, and instead of a spiralling pattern, i had just chunks, like shards of glass floating around freely, which had what should have been what i was seeing, on them. I was out on my balcony, and the sounds from the highway was overwhelming, so i found my way inside somehow, where i had Paul Oakenfold's, A Voyage into Trance playing...the patterns from the screen spread onto the walls of the apartment...there wasn't a tv stand, just a couple of characters holding up my tv...and there were people around the room comforting me, and telling me how awesome of a trip i was having...then i attempted to find my pen lights to see what kind of mad tracers i was getting, but all i could see when i looked away from the tv were the patterns from the dvd...it was wicked intense....just fuckin sick! I LOVE DMT!

[Yukio Mishima]

SWIM had a DMT freakout. First, he loaded up 52 mg, and smoked it, but it didn't work right because SWIM started inhaling too soon and wound up smoking the DMT too slowly. He had very light visuals and background movement, but this was a level 1 trip. SWIM was irritated by this and while the last lingering effects wore off, he prepared 56 mg. SWIM was still annoyed at the previous failure and waste of DMT when he started smoking the 56. After the second hit, it started coming on REAL strong. SWIM glanced down at his hand holding the butane lighter and nothing was visible except for the flame, which appeared to be self-suspended. SWIM kept right on smoking until he could smoke no more(later he found out he finished all of the DMT). He started started to stare out towards the wall in front of his bed like usual, but immediately something was wrong. The visuals for some reason felt like a complete neural overload, like they not outside of him, but deep inside of his brain. There was a glowing white rectangle in front of him that would flash pink and the walls were like some kind of pulsating, melting membrane. There was nothing ominous about this in retrospect, but SWIM panicked. He could not remember where he was or what had happened to him, nor could he use a coping strategy like counting to 10 because he could not deal with the situation rationally at all. His thoughts were half-formed and incomplete. SWIM had some dim idea that whatever had happened, it would pass soon, so he glanced around the room without looking at any one thing for too long. The walls started to move in a way that was ugly, like they were made out of colored mud and there was a mudslide. "Ugly" is the key word here. SWIM also was unable to feel his body. It was not an OBE and SWIM picked up a nearby glass of water to distract himself, but he could not feel anything. The glass of water was disconcertingly ugly, too. When it wore off enough for SWIM to move, he got up to go to another room to change the scenery and that is where he returned to normal. SWIM laughed outloud to himself about the complete freakout that had just happened. Just goes to show that even after a lot of trips, things can still spiral out of control. SWIM does not understand what exactly happened there. It just felt horribly wrong from the very beginning for reasons unbeknownst to him. SWIM has had bad trips before, though never with DMT. This was like other bad trips with LSD and shrooms, but more intense because DMT is more intense than other substances. SWIM doesn't intend to stop smoking DMT over it tho.

I apologize for the stream of consciousness nature of this post and lack of breaks.

[Mr Man]

SMIM has had dmt and it has been the most profound drug experience of his life. He has now had it three times the first in just a raw herbal smoking form the second and third times with approx 40-50mg over the herbal form in a small pipe. The herbal form is great because as well as including resin or extract from acacia it allows the crystals to be smoked through a normal pipe as they melt quickly over the leaf and then burn so no freebase pipe needs to be used.

For brevity's sake I will just describe the experiences of his last two uses as they were incomparable to the first where only the leaf was smoked and only a lighter hallucinogenic experience was felt with no breakthrough. Although the first time was quite useful as it introduced him to the effects of the drug to some degree and thus was made slightly more ready for the full escapade.

The first breakthrough was with some friends who introduced him to some experienced users who guided him and his friends through their first time. This he found was extremely important as it allowed a sense of security that he was with people that knew what they were doing and were there to help him. Setting the scene for your first experience he found and was told is needed as it helps you to relax and find your comfort zone. Nice ambient music and a comfortable resting place such as a beanbag and pillow or a mattress is perfect.

As advised before crystal dmt about 50mg was placed over the herbs and smoked in a normal pipe. He was told to have three hits if possible. The guide was holding the pipe as once the third is smoked it is usual if the user is holding the pipe that it can be dropped. One hit was taken then exhaled, slight distortions to vision occur at this brief instant before the second is taken and then exhaled, at this point he felt definate hallucinogenic feelings, a tightening of vision and had to fight to maintain control to take the last hit. As the last was being pulled he felt the point where he could take no more and relaxed/slumped back into his beanbag.

Words can hardly describe. Eyes closed he was flung into another place. Blown away. Minds eye as they say was opened wide. Stating what he saw however cant fully describe or justify the experience as sight can only been seen front on from the eyes, this was entirely different. It felt as if his sight had become multi dimensional in a sense as if he could see in all directions at once. Colours, patterns, dimensions and vibrations assaulted him in every way, faces and shapes form and change to create different images again. An overwhelming sense of joy and rightness occurred. Each note of the music seemed as a vibration and force of its own and each was singularly felt and known intimately as it was played. He sensed what could be described as forces of nature, beings or entities hovering over him in a kind and protective sense and felt at peace and that everything was as one. This feeling lasted what could be have been ages time didn't really have meaning while the trip lasted. Slowly however, almost to the music, the ebb and flow of the entities and vibrations started to recede and fade until he eventually sat up.

The first time was so totally unexpected and incredible that it was hard to take in and describe to anyone including himself what had actually happened so of course a second helping of this marvellous drug had to be expected. The second time occurring two weeks after the first was just as mind bending as the first with all the feelings described above. On the second time a larger intake was taken on the third hit and as he lay back he felt an almost popping sensation in his head as he was breaking through. This he remembered from the first time however it was more pronounced or was remembered more on the second. The second time fully brought back the effects of the drug in all its glory. After the first time he couldn’t fully comprehend what he had experienced after it had worn off but the second time was like stepping straight back through the same door with a wave of comprehension, an almost welcome feeling, this is what it is like! How could he have forgotten this!

And so there are SWIM first dmt experiences he's sure they won’t be the last. Treat this drug with the utmost respect and have it for the first time with an experienced user but have it you must if you enjoy hallucinogens.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Great report!! Thanks!

[LedZepStoned]

SWIM had a dmt experience on new year's only it wasnt a natural extract is was a pure synthetic form. It was a whitish powder, but someone hit it before SWIM did and when SwIM got the piece it was a yellowish solid, once the hit was in the solid was gone. The second he let go of te piece to pass it on it slammed him. The feeling was so intense he strted to get scared but felt the urge to laugh and did. In this time it seemed like SWIM was in his own little world and couldnt hear what was going on around him which was the conversations of aout 8 people. The only thing he heard was a very messed up sounding laughter. His vision was also very "pixelated" and about half of the pixels were yellow, the others a mix of colors and a long with the real world around him which was a garage. When he came down from it he was very excited but hesitant to try more because of the intensity, aparrently it was only about a minute or two which felt like 25 minutes to him. Later when everyone at the NY party was asleep him and the host figured out there was powder resed in the piece that was also used for smoking weed. The decided to see if hitting the empty pipe would show results. It did but not the same as the initial hit. It produced a very unique sense of euphoria and an unreal feeling aswell as laughter at absolutely nothing. After he stopped laughing and the euphoria subsided SWIM immediately wanted to try more again and again so him and his friend did this for about an hour and then it was gone. After SWIM and the host tried getting some the next day becasue it was so good. SWIM has still not tried it again but looks forward to another go at it. He said it was a very indescribible feeling for the first hit and would like to experience such a crazy thing again.

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SWIY can SWIM well on only his 2nd post, plus great taste in music ♥

[wertfun]

I watched last night a document tells a about new cultures each time. This time he went to a village somwhere in South America, somewhere near brazil. The whole village men were using dmt and they were samanist. I didn't know that samanisim is all established on DMT. The funny part is the suplier of the document was having fun of the people there till he tried DMT with them, after he tried DMT he almost become a samanist just like them. It seemed like it was the most interesting experince of his life

[Jatelka]

First Off: SWIJ has done more research and reading about DMT than any other drug she has ever taken. It is something that she has been working towards for a very long time. Her (3 now) DMT experiences have been percolating in the back of her mind for the last few weeks. She has wanted to write this (first time) trip report for some time, and yet has not felt able to. She has never had difficulty with words before: Yet this has been almost impossible to write, simply because her language is inadequate.

DMT was extracted from MHRB as per Marsofold’s TEK. She has no idea on yield, was just happy that she achieved any crystals at all! It really was easier than baking a cake (SWIJ is not very domesticated usually).

She and her partner G were alone in their home. Neither had taken DMT before. They had not eaten for 8 hours. G spent the day meditating. SWIJ tried but found herself very much mired in anticipation.

SWIJ went first. They curled up in some cushions. G was designated pipe-holder and “fire applier”.

Approx 50mg DMT with a little mint was placed in pipe. SWIJ says approx because she does not possess mg scales (BAD MOD!). She went on Mars’ recommendation that 50mg is an amount of DMT the size of an eraser on the end of a pencil.

Fire was applied, large lungful of smoke taken: Taste indeed worse than anything she had ever imagined. Despite this she managed to hold it. There was a momentary sensation of physical lightness present. She sensed a vibration from somewhere and had a vague realisation that this was possibly a good thing and that she might indeed “breakthrough” although the physical sensation was deeply unpleasant. Second lungful taken… G fragmented into glorious fractals. Almost like the crystalline structure of erythromycin she once saw.

How to describe what happened next? How to describe everything happening at once and in no time at all, without reference points?

1) Sensation of speed: Hurtling towards an unknown. A white/infinite wall (a la Hitch-Hikers Guide to The Galaxy)? An empty velvet black cosmos?
2) Sensation of dread and fear, overwhelming and crushing. As if something hideous had walked over her grave and then stomped down hard.
3) No more than a heartbeat, longer than eternity.
4) Absence of body and self, mind a small candle flame in the vast distance.

And then another “breakthrough”: A fractal city of spires stretching further than imagination. Mind no longer a tiny spark but a roaring inferno. Dread receding, and then as if never there. Awareness of body, but rushing outwards at impossible speeds…Stretching, morphing, streaming… Mind crackling outwards, following/leading, consuming/re-forging. An awareness of “otherness” of spirit stepping “sideways” to occupy a completely different space/time.

A strange emptiness and aloneness engulfed her, but at the same time it was something else. Emptiness and aloneness was subsumed by longing and need. Awareness of the city returned (had it ever gone)? Shimmering as if seen through a heat-haze, becoming more insubstantial until blown away like smoke.

And she was back, G still as fractals but rapidly resolving. Fear, love and worry in his eyes. She tried to explain, but speech wouldn’t come. They held each other for what seemed like forever. They waited an hour together and then he went…

Quite disjointed SWIJ is afraid but words simply don’t feel right here. She has an overall sense of her experience but the dizzying details are impossible to recall (probably a good thing).

Some random thoughts:

SWIJ thinks it is very frightening watching someone you love take DMT, particularly when SWIY has experienced fear as part of their experience. He slumped on the cushions, cried out and looked/sounded terrified for a moment. It was absolutely heartbreaking. This aspect could have been avoided (she guesses) by having someone who was experienced with DMT present. Unfortunately SWIJ and G did not know such a person. Another thing to bear in mind is that 10 minutes seems an awfully long time to wait for someone’s “return.”

In many ways this experience was bleak and horrifying. Certainly the first time there was no joy (although G was beautiful in fractal form and there was definately promise for the future). The aloneness was terrible (cosmic agoraphobia?) and impossible to explain. SWIJ thinks that once you have experienced that… Well, she’s still working on it.

However much reading and research SWIY might do: NOTHING can prepare you for DMT. It is beyond imagination and time. It is an astonishingly powerful drug, with amazing promise. SWIJ has just dipped her toe in the water. She thinks that this is likely to be a lifelong journey.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Fantastic trip report!
	"cosmic agoraphobia" - god, excellent term - SWIM gets that most of the time he trips, never heard a more perf...
	Wow, this is a wonderful read. DMT has always interested swiM

[LowExpectations]

Agreed, nothing can prepare you for DMT except DMT itself. The raw intensity, that ringing crescendo that echoes through one's head is unfathomable to those who do not know it. DMT is one of the most fascinating psychedelics in what it inspires in you. The well-known psychedelics such as LSD or psilocybin are relatively interperetable in how they react with one's emotion and pathes of thought. DMT brings out something so totally alien it is impossible to comprehend the possibility of such a perspective existing without seeing it yourself.

SWIM has experimented with DMT in a variety of settings, a friend extracted it from MHRB and so SWIM has had tons to work with. As with most chemicals he enjoys very much pushing the limit of the drug and the mind and watching how they interact. It's nearly impossible to force oneself into a bad trip on DMT, it really doesn't react with the emotional stimuli at all, SWIM has always found it rather odd reading about emotional experiences on DMT. For the most part, he thinks an emotional reaction would have more to do with coping with the overwhelming intensity of the comeup, different people just handle it differently. SWIM gets a shocked expression on his face which settles as he lets it take hold, to better see the landscape that presents itself presently. Impossible stained glass patterns web every molecule together as SWIM hears the airplanes overhead, and long alien creatures watch silently from beyond the wood.

What really completes each trip though, is that acute clarity of mind afterwards that provokes that deep convorsation, the endless DMT debate. What does the trip mean? What part of the psyche and perception does it represent? SWIM doesn't take Aldous Huxley's philosophies for face value, but the human brain is capable of so much that is hard to deny that it is a gate in many senses, and anything that is capable of opening this door is capable of showing us a side of ourselves we have yet to come accross.

The impact DMT has on the mind is a state of being every self proclaimed psychonaut should be aware of and accepting of.

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Excellent prose.

[quantumbrujo]

Swim broke through this weekend like he never broke through before.He was in the country,outdoors in a place where there is next to no light pollution and the night sky is filled with millions of stars.He packed the pipe with about 100mg's of nn DMT and hit it.Exhaled and then hit it again,didn't have time to hit it a third time cause he was no longer able.That place where the elves are is only the begining of hyperspace and this time he went beyond elfland to the void.His spirit totally left his body and travelled around the world riding on the magnetic field lines of the earth.All forms of transmitted frequencies were heard like tv stations,cell phones,radio stations and he even was able to tune in to a radio station from Venezuela .He is in Canada though.The beauty of this place he was at was incredible.he had no body,he was just another one of these electromagnetic lines.Suddenly he finds himself among these strange people dessed like vikings all with blue hair and one of these guys in particular was staring at swim with a grin on his face as he walked passed him.This guy had blue hair and also a blue beard and was pretty cleancut.The detail seemed more real that reality itself.The beauty of this place was so that he didn't care if he never came back and let himself go with it without any resistance.Then he started coming back and passed througfh elfland once again and finally arrived to our 3D reality in one piece with nothing but awe!All he can say is too fucking much!He can't wait to go there again probably next weekend.

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nice experience report

[morningGlory]

Originally Posted by quantumbrujo

Swim broke through this weekend like he never broke through before.He was in the country,outdoors in a place where there is next to no light pollution and the night sky is filled with millions of stars.He packed the pipe with about 100mg's of nn DMT and hit it.Exhaled and then hit it again,didn't have time to hit it a third time cause he was no longer able.That place where the elves are is only the begining of hyperspace and this time he went beyond elfland to the void.His spirit totally left his body and travelled around the world riding on the magnetic field lines of the earth.All forms of transmitted frequencies were heard like tv stations,cell phones,radio stations and he even was able to tune in to a radio station from Venezuela .He is in Canada though.The beauty of this place he was at was incredible.he had no body,he was just another one of these electromagnetic lines.Suddenly he finds himself among these strange people dessed like vikings all with blue hair and one of these guys in particular was staring at swim with a grin on his face as he walked passed him.This guy had blue hair and also a blue beard and was pretty cleancut.The detail seemed more real that reality itself.The beauty of this place was so that he didn't care if he never came back and let himself go with it without any resistance.Then he started coming back and passed througfh elfland once again and finally arrived to our 3D reality in one piece with nothing but awe!All he can say is too fucking much!He can't wait to go there again probably next weekend.

wow that sounds like an ideal trip, im jelous

[Silence_Inc]

nice experience Brujo.

a friend of mine once smoked DMT. but she did it 3 hours after she took 2cb. little did she know this combination is known to be fatal.

anyaway - after a night of partying she took her hit arround 6 'o clock in the morning. she wasn't prepared for what happend.

first she broke through and saw some elves - but she kept on rising and going further. she came trough alot of dimensions with diffrent kind of entities. till she reached the final border. she saw a vail - some kind of whom ... pulsating - and she felt this joy and pure happines ... she was expereicing herself as a pulsating sinus wave... pulsating closer to the edge of the vail - she was feeling totally peacefull and wanted to break through the last border ... but when she wanted to do that, they said: it's not your time yet - and she got sucked back - passing through diffrent kind of dimensions where entities were trying to grab her and get attention - but she was to focussed to that last stop - that last vail ... when she came back she woke up - totally in possitive shock.

this experience changed her life TOTALLY! she went to africa to assist people that were about to die ... cause she felt that noone should die allone.

we felt that she almost died herself because of that 2cb - dmt combo - but just wasn't ready to ...

[Nagognog2]

"a friend of mine once smoked DMT. but she did it 3 hours after she took 2cb. little did she know this combination is known to be fatal."

Could you please find a reference to this?

[Silence_Inc]

Originally Posted by Nagognog2

"a friend of mine once smoked DMT. but she did it 3 hours after she took 2cb. little did she know this combination is known to be fatal."

Could you please find a reference to this?

i searched the net but didn't find specific info - this info was passed on from her to me. so like i said - for some people it's is known that the combo can be fatal. it has to do with time between the substances - after 4 hours after comdown of 2db it is said to be okay to smoke n,n dmt. sooner could cause troubles. but this is only passed on information. sorry i couldn't find more. i'll keep looking.

[Nagognog2]

Please do. Rumors like this need to be either substantiated - or debunked. I've never heard of this one, and I have big ears. So it would be good if you can track this down.

Thanks!

[illuminati boy]

I also have never heard of this (not even as a rumor). I have heard of severe adverse events involving smoking 5-MeO-DMT on MAOIs etc. I could see maybe someone smoking a DMT sized dose of 5-MeO-DMT on anything (or even nothing at all) and looking like they were about to die.

Rumor begins:
“Yea my friend smoked a pile of 5-MeO-DMT or something while taking some 2C-B and it looked like she was gonna die.”

Rumor evolves:
“I heard from my cousin that this one chick in New York nearly died after mixing 2C-B and DMT.”

Rumor further evolves:
“I heard some girl in New Jersey died after mixing DMT and 2C-B.”

So this could easily be a case of rumor mill ‘telephone.’ Regardless of whether it is true or false, further clarification and details would be much appreciated.

I B

[fatal]

swim has seen an individual ingest a DMT sized dose of 5-meo-DMT and it certainly did look like they might indeed die. this has been mentioned in other threads but will be again... extreme jump in blood pressure / heartrate / bodyheat, grand mal seizure activity, violent behavior, dissociation etc... not very pleasant at all...

[entheogenist]

The girl wasn't really going to die, she just felt like she was experiencing death. SWIM has broken through that membrane many times.... the realm of the elves is seen before one breaks through. The other side of the membrane is death, but only temporary death. It feels like there is no return. You are eternity, one with the universe, so how could you ever come back to a body? But you always do. It really does feel like you are dead though. It's a scary experience, but once the fear wears off the awe and gratitude kick in.

[raven3davis]

Great report jatelka. SWIM has a feeling that when we die, we return to a place strikingly similar to DMT land, but much more alien and unknown.

Death is a sad fact of life, but returning to our true place in the universe will be an astonishingly beautiful event. This life grants us the ability to form close relationships with others and fall in love. Love IMO is what makes this existance so unique. SWIM has many friends he loves and would do anything for. He hopes one day he can fall in love and show someone how beautiful life can be. Too bad this will all end one day and we will be alone. SWIM hopes the memories of those he loved will still be there.

Thought of death and of being alone plague SWIMs mind every day. DMT was the catalyst for this train of thought. SWIM loves life but he does not want to be here forever. SWIM knows what life is al about know. Anyone who has been into the rave scene knows what PLUR means. PEACE, LOVE, UNITY, RESPECT.

First, you must be at peace with yourself and your surroundings. Love everyone and everything, and be able to forgive those who have done you wrong. Love yourself and respect your mind and body. Show respect to all forms of life. Realize that we are all part of the same complex system. The cycle never ends, and you never know where you might end up in the vast territory of the universe.

Smoking DMT for SWIM is like being shot by a PLUR cannon. He closes his eyes and experiences a feeling of bliss. He is at peace with himself and at peace with the universe. We work together in unison. The entites and SWIM have learned to respect each other so SWIM is almost always welcomed when he returns to the DMT land. Words do not do a DMT trip justice. SWIRs journey with DMT will also be life long.

SWIM can only hope death will bring him something similar to a DMT trip. Eternity is long time, so hopefully it can be spent somewhere good. Something is watching over us, so just watch your back. Go to a rave or something, and bring your bottle of plur with you. Do good things and treat people like people should be treated. Sticks and stones may break your bones........but you have no idea how much damage words can do. Think twice before saying anything.

hopefully SWIM can write up another trip report sometime soon.

cool

nice reading everyones trip reports/thoughts

peace

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	Great post
	Beautiful writing as always!

[quantumbrujo]

Well this time swim and two of his buddies did a huge hit all at the same time.swim never saw a guy flip out so much ever.one of the buddies started to scream at the top of his lungs and his legs were moving a if he was running like hell from something.then his arms started to swing in all kinds of ways making movements like to brush off insects off his body.He hung on to swims arm so tight that swim still has the bruises.He was foaming at the mouth this whole time and never stopped screaming and was in total panic,begging swim to make them go away.swim asked "make who go away?" he said "the fallen angels,I'm at war with them"swim got so freaked out at his buddies reaction that all he got was some opened eyed visuals, but no hyperspace.his trip was aborted it seems and this was a huge 100mg hit.Meanwhile the other buddy is on the floor crawling away from what he said were some kids that were sitting at the table and he was like a relief worker in africa and it was his responsibility to feed these kids.at one point he said that the room was covered with wall to wall people and then he started saying "where are the kids? they're waiting for me and I gotta give them some food" what a fucked up trip man.Finally the first buddy stops screaming and is saying he conquered the fallen angels and kept babbling on about him being a conqueror and he killed all the fallen angels.He actually thanked swim for the hit of spice and said he learned a valuable lesson.so both ofswims buddies tripped like mutherfuckers,but swim didn't so about an hour later he loaded the pipoe real good and toked till he dropped on the couch.he woke up about four hours later and doesn't remember a goddamned thing about the trip.conclusion?40-50mg's is enough to breakthrough and swim won't be doing 100-150mg hits no more.plus this batch of spice has some of the jungle DMT mixed in .(that other alkaloid that makes DMT much much stronger likely yuremamine and possibly a MAOI) these red crystals can be extracted with xylene and also with diethyl ether,but are not very soluble in heptane or hexane.

[poptart]

Crossover......yea! Wow! Swim said he dosent think he could of taken that for 4 to 6 hours. It’s not for everyone. First hit swim said it was like life... but as looking at it out of a kaleidoscope, and all his art was changing into different shapes. Second one, down for the count! Laid back and enjoyed. No elves, but lots of other stuff. Cartoon world! Swim said he keep feeling if he was having an out of body experience. Just remember to breathe. Swim keep trying to breathe after after not breathing for what seemed like hours. Anyway swim didn’t want to write a book just the general idea. One thing, don’t do a full dose on your first time. Swim said he is a big heavyweight but swim under estimated this by far. Groggy, feels like swim has a hang over. BREATHE!!!!

[Nagognog2]

quantumbrujo: That sounds like what Bongo witnessed when a chimp he knew smoked a huge (50mg) dose of 5-MeO-DMT. He had to be restrained by 2 people. And that was difficult! Are you sure this was DMT?

[poptart]

heres a link to a satilite radio show

http://www.joerogan.net/albums/rogan...insLife002.mp3