Drug info - Why didn't the Morning Glory seeds work?

[Cyber]

SWIM had purchased roughly 850 untreated Morning Glory Heavenly Blue seeds from an online vendor. He proceeded to grind them the best that he could, and then ingested bunches at a time and chewed them up thoroughly. This was done on a completely empty stomach.

Consumption began at 6:30 pm, and SWIM finished consuming the seeds at around 7:20 pm. SWIM did not experience any nausea, but did have to run to the toilet to take an extremely fast, watery shit. SWIM's pupils were dilated, but other than that, there were no significant effects and still haven't been any aside from the liquid bowel movements.

Why didn't this work for SWIM? Is it just one of those "it just doesn't work with some people" things?

[Alias: V]

To anyone trying Morning Glory seeds (MG) I would suggest Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds (HBWR) instead. HBWR are far more potent in LSA's and therefore one may only have to take 15-20 compared to 1000-1500 MG seeds. The only downside is that HBRW seed shells contain cyanicglycosides, which are more or less poinsonous. Not so poisonous that you'll die, but often one may experience some sort of nausea. There are ways to get around this, such as extracting the crushed seeds in water, alcohol, ect.

LSA is quite an amazing chemical, but it's one that takes a little patience and a little getting used to. And as always, don't do anything illegal!

[The Dreamer]

Swiy should probably look into some extraction methods. Sounds like the seeds may have gone straight through him. A coffee grinder may help solve this problem by grinding them up fully to help release all of the actives and he should also avoid throwing up/diarrhea because this will excrete some or all of the actives before they can be absorbed. Extraction methods remove the poisons which may have caused his diarrhea and can also extract the actives in to a smaller and much more palletable form (this may also help keep the morning glory down).

[chaosx]

swim thinks your lucky it didn't work. that sounds like way too many seeds from swims experience. plants can vary in concentrations of active chemicals, to start at 850 seeds sounds very dangerous to swim. swim has had effects with just 100 seeds. and had extremely strong experiences with 200.

possibly the vendor you bought from is not selling good product. here is swims method that resulted in very strong results.

swim bought a coffee bean grinder. very inexpensive. swim ground up 200 seeds. swim poured the seeds into a cup and covered with vodka. swim waited for 1 hour stiring the mixture occassionally. swim then poured orange juice into the vodka seed mixture and slowly sipped the drink, drinking it all and seed residue in the cup. swim felt effects after about 1 hour. effects grew quickly and peaked at 3-4 hours. at peak swim felt like his soul was trying to leave his body, his ceiling was a mass of swirling colors, and waves of overwelming pleasure was washing over him.

swims experiences are much stronger with a much smaller amount of seeds then many people have reported. possibly swim got a strong batch, possibly swim is very sensitive to the active ingredient, or possibly a combination of both. but you never know, so start small and work your way up.

swim did the vodka thing because he read somewhere that lsa the active ingredient would disolve in alchol, and that alcohol enters your blood stream very quickly, carrying the lsa with it.

swim doesn't know, he can only report what worked for him. maybe the vodka could be left to soak for 24 hours, and then the seed remains strained.

swim has not experimented with morning glory seeds after this experience. the experience was interesting, and swim is glad he did it, but it was not fun in any normal sense of the word.

[TheMainException]

These seeds could be extremely old. Or not the right kind of seeds, but sold as such. Next time, take 100-200 seeds and try a different vendor.

[godztear]

Originally Posted by Cyber

SWIM had purchased roughly 850 untreated Morning Glory Heavenly Blue seeds from an online vendor. He proceeded to grind them the best that he could, and then ingested bunches at a time and chewed them up thoroughly. This was done on a completely empty stomach.

Consumption began at 6:30 pm, and SWIM finished consuming the seeds at around 7:20 pm. SWIM did not experience any nausea, but did have to run to the toilet to take an extremely fast, watery shit. SWIM's pupils were dilated, but other than that, there were no significant effects and still haven't been any aside from the liquid bowel movements.

Why didn't this work for SWIM? Is it just one of those "it just doesn't work with some people" things?

That actually made me laugh. The whole water shit part being the peak of the trip just got to me. Don't get me wrong, I've never tried them but I still think just eating handfuls of seed dust or seeds just seams ridiculous. Sorry for your misfortunes.

Originally Posted by The Dreamer

Swiy should probably look into some extraction methods. Sounds like the seeds may have gone straight through him. A coffee grinder may help solve this problem by grinding them up fully to help release all of the actives and he should also avoid throwing up/diarrhea because this will excrete some or all of the actives before they can be absorbed. Extraction methods remove the poisons which may have caused his diarrhea and can also extract the actives in to a smaller and much more palletable form (this may also help keep the morning glory down).

This guy pretty much has the conclusion that I would have come to. Goes back to one of the oldest concepts in the book: Big Things come in small packages.

[Kada]

unfortunately morning glories just vary a lot, some have no active chemicals, while others are chalked full. your best bet in my opinion is grow your own, or find someone who grows ones that are known to be potent.

fresh seeds can have nothing and old seeds can be strong, its just quite variable with nature.