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Old 06-07-2009, 21:49
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BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

Okay so this is all taken from SWIM's friend Bernards diary. Bernard decided to let SWIM publish a full report and comparison on the two drugs based upon his expierences. SWIM will try to break it down in to sub-sections for easier reading.

Background

Bernard has just turned 18 years old and it pretty healthy and in shape and weighs roughly 150lbs although this goes up and down by about 10lbs from time to time. He has been taking BZP-TFMPP for roughly 8 months almost daily with a few two week gaps in their and does often take 3 day breaks. He has been taking Mephedrone for about a month only on special occasions though really although when he ran out of BZP did take it during the day a few times. Bernard cannot give any exact info on what dosage he takes as he hasnt weighed it properly he simply puts it into gel capsules which vary in size from 150mg ones to 600mg ones. All consumption of chemicals is done orally with gel capsule or by mixing into drinks.

Basic Info

Bernard finds that the effects of BZP take roughly an hour to set in and can last between 3-6 hours. He has never had any sort of come down or bad expierences par the 'binge' which will be covered later when using BZP. He finds the effects to mainly be mood elevation, increased chattiness, music appreciation and endless energy.

Bernard says Mephdrone has a similar set in time although it usually little quicker normally inbetween 30 minutes to an hour and the effects last roughly 3-5 hours. Bernard would also like to mention he thinks that there is some instant effect as when swallowing Mephedrone capsules he gets some definite head rush which he doesnt get with BZP, he knows this isnt a placebo either as when he was not sure what he was taking during the 'binge' this is how he would know what he had just taken. Once again he has never expierenced any negative effects of come down apart from when he accidently took a overly large amount during the 'binge' which will be covered later. The effects are identical to BZP except he finds himself even more chatty on Mephedrone than BZP and will often find it hard to stop talking.

Daily Use

Bernard found that daily use of BZP was very pleasent in quite low doses. He found that he never had any negative side effects apart from penis retraction and cold hands from time to time. He found taking BZP during the day gave him energy to do everything he needed to do and gave him a nice little high through out the day and by taking earlier on in the day was able to go to bed at the usual time if that is what he wanted. He never experienced any come down either. He always made sure to keep himself well hydrated and eat properly. After a week or so he would also make sure to give himself atleast 3 solid days off and during the week he would normally have a day off aswell.

The exact same goes for Mephedrone and daily usage.

Going Out

Bernard when going out would take his first capsule of BZP at roughly 6 or 7 and then re-dose each hour or so till he had taken 3 pills. He would also drink alchol as normal when going out and found this had no real effect on the BZP. When out on BZP he would be able to stay up all night long no problem what so ever and have no trouble socialising and music would also sound much better.

SWIM has only used Mephedrone twice on nights out and once was along with BZP and he found the expierence just like a very slightly more intense BZP one. The other time Bernard accidently got very very drunk and thinks he may have taken too much Mephedrone, however he cannot remember this expierence due to the alcohol intake. This is not the 'binge' as previously mentioned this is to come next.

The Binge

Bernard recently attended a very popular UK music festival on a farm in Somerset he wont say the festivals name though. He took to this festivals a large stash of BZP and Mephedrone capsules. The festival started on Wednesday and ended on Sunday night with people to leave and return home on Monday morning. These 5 days and the recovery afterwards are Bernards only bad expierences with the two drugs.

Bernard began consuming the drugs on Wednesday when they arrived at night mainly BZP with some low dosages of Mephedrone. He also drank a few cans of cider slowly but constantly also. Bernard didnt sleep at all all night and instead explored the sight. Bernard continued his consumption the next day Bernard would re-dose every 3-5 hours normally taking his last pill at around midnight or just after and then re-dosing around breakfast time. He was only taking BZP and alcohol at this point. Bernards first bad expierence came when he accidently got his BZP and Mephedrone mixed up and he took a very large dose for him of Mepedrone thinking it was BZP. With in an hour he had the shakes, they were only slight but still uncontrolable and everything felt sped up when he went to do something he felt a extreme urgency to do it and would rush and do it very quickly, everything felt like a really urgent struggle, its hard to explain but wasnt pleasent. He also felt quite paranoid and thought everyone was staring at him as if they knew he had taken too much of a drug. Bernards friends did not know he was taking these drugs but they did seem to think he was acting odd on these occasions where he took too much Mephedrone. Unfortunatly Bernard did muddle of this BZP Mephedrone dosage thing a few times. This uneasy feeling always subsided with in an hour or setting in though luckily.


Bernard took his last pill of the festival just after midnight on Sunday, he had only slept 1 night out of 5 (on the Thursday he slept a little during the night) other than that he had been awake non-stop and he hadnt been eating properly at all either only really eating cereal bars and dried fruit only buying 2 proper meals the whole week. By 10 o'clock in the car on the way home he was very very very tired but he managed to keep himself awake only just as he doesnt like sleeping in cars. He arrived home at 1 o'clock and showered then ate a huge meal. He intended to then watch some TV but must have fallen asleep. Bernards mother arrived home around 4 or 5 and woke him to talk to him however Bernard was so tired he was delirious and his ramblings made no sense. He then slept another 3-4 hours and when he awoke went and apologised for his incoherent ramblings.

Bernard spent the whole of the next 3 days or so simply lying around and eating as he had no energy to do a thing all his friends who had been drug free apart from alcohol all recovered in a day. They had also been eating properly and sleeping though. Bernard is unsure what made him so bad for like 3 days he cant decide wether it was the lack of sleep, food or it was a come down from the drugs or alcohol. Who knows just a little warning for any planning on binging on the drugs.

Conclusion

So Bernard as found himself perfectly comfortable with both drugs and taking them daily apart from the few mishaps during the 'binge' which have put him off taking any overly large doses of Mephedrone though he will be more careful in the future. Despite the horrible recovery after the festival/binge he is sure he will end up doing it next year also.




Sorry for anything not covered but feel free to ask any questions what so ever and SWIM will ask Bernard for this answer.


Thanks.

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Old 07-07-2009, 14:26
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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

SWIM likes this report, he is in search of a chemical that he can take every day to increase his social abilities and a general mood lift/energy increase. Which of the two chemicals would SWIY recommend as SWIM has never taken BZP to his knowing.
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Old 07-07-2009, 15:50
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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

Bernard would say either, just go for what ever your able to get your hands on easiest and for the best price. Bernard would say that Mephedrone probably requires a bit more caution when finding tour right dosage as taking too much isnt much fun as SWIM mentioned above.

Updated original post with some other effects by the way.

BoyInTheCountry added 5 Minutes and 59 Seconds later...

Other Effects and Side Effects

Okay cant see the Edit Post option so will put here instead. This will just be complete list of all effects.

Alertness and Increased Concentration
Chattiness
Mood Elevation
Energy
Music appreciation goes up
Tingling all over (pleasent though)

Cold hands sometimes
Dry mouth (very minor but can be very bad with large doses if you dont have a drink at hand)
Shakes (Only expierenced with large doses of Mephedrone)
Muscle cramp (rarely and only brief)
Pupil dilation (only with large doses)
Penis retraction (Still functions properly though)

Once during the 'Binge' Bernard was in the tent on a particularly hot morning and noticed that his sweat actually smelt vaguely of the drugs.

Bernard thinks he has mentioned everything now.

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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

Thanks for the report it was nice. Swim would urge Swiy though to really cut down on the intake of these chemicals. Mephedrone has caused many problems for people and taking it (or any recreational chemical) on a daily is a very big risk. Swim advises taking a minimum of two week breaks between ingesting any chemicals.

Good report.
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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

That is why SWIM prefered BZP, it kind of automatically protects from overusing it, because if one takes too high a dose he will have a hangover. This makes people refarin from using it in a unhealty manner, hopefully. At least reasonable people. Of course it doesn't stop those people that don't listen do their bodies anyways.

So, just to know, what is the "daily usage" dose that you pet was using? mg wise? for the nice little kicks througout the day, without being "high". ?
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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

Of all the users whom swim know, which set of the mephadrone or the bzp, the mephedrone appears as an addictive drug but without bad immediate consequences. Piperazines provokes nausea, fever etc... The tonics of the central nervous system seem to me more interesting level effects, with fewer bad sides.
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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

You mentioned sweat smelling of the drug

SWIM was on mephedrone all weekend and his urine absolutely stinks of it!!!

Not so bad today though

His poo also is very foul smelling (Mephedrone taken orally), not like it usually smells good lol just stinks a hell of a lot worse
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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

Hm yeah there was a definite smell of the chemical in SWIMS sweat, it was a very very very very hot morning in the tent SWIM was absolutly dripping. SWIM had heard someone else mention that there sweat smelt of it before. SWIMS urine or stools have never smelt of it though well not that he has noticed.
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Re: BZP and Mephedrone - Comparison and Full Reports

swim says yeah it does make his sweat smell, likewise his urine.
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