Drug info - Blue or Gold Caps? (Psilocybe Semilanceata or Psilocybe Cubensis)

[Maggie]

SWIM tells me that:

So my fiance says the only mushrooms available in our area are blue caps, rarely gold caps. But he doesn't know the actual names of them. I'm the type of person who will research the hell out of something before going ahead and doing it and trying to research blue or gold caps so far has turned up very little. I live in alberta, canada if that helps with what kind they are at all (alberta has a lot of cattle, we must be able to grow magic mushrooms)

So if anyone has any info on these, like links, pics, etc, that would be great and very helpful. Also, any experiences, advice, etc for a first timer such as myself (I'm a drug virgin) would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Maggie added 2 Minutes and 1 Seconds later...

Oh, and I should clarify that we aren't going out and picking any mushrooms, my fiance says that blue or gold caps is the only ones sold around here.

[Senor Gribson]

First of all, never refer to yourself in a post. You aren'tas anonymous on the internet as you might think, and any time you say "I" did something, you are incriminating yourself.
Most posters here either post stories about SWIM (someone who isn't me), or a made-up character.
See if you can get a mod to edit your post, and please read the rules.

About your question, SWIM has never seen blue-capped mushrooms before. Most magic mushrooms bruise blue, the same way apples bruise brown. A good indicator of weak/inactive shrooms is if they have no traces of blue on them (this isn't always true though).
From what SWIM has heard, the most common wild shrooms out west are liberty caps.
The most common indoor shrooms in eastern Canada are p. cubensis, SWIM thinks this is true anywhere in north America.

[Maggie]

Originally Posted by Senor Gribson

First of all, never refer to yourself in a post. You aren'tas anonymous on the internet as you might think, and any time you say "I" did something, you are incriminating yourself.
Most posters here either post stories about SWIM (someone who isn't me), or a made-up character.
See if you can get a mod to edit your post, and please read the rules.

About your question, SWIM has never seen blue-capped mushrooms before. Most magic mushrooms bruise blue, the same way apples bruise brown. A good indicator of weak/inactive shrooms is if they have no traces of blue on them (this isn't always true though).
From what SWIM has heard, the most common wild shrooms out west are liberty caps.
The most common indoor shrooms in eastern Canada are p. cubensis, SWIM thinks this is true anywhere in north America.

SWIM is in western Canada though, but she will check out p. cubensis if it is true for all of north america. And newbie question, what does SWIM mean? I have seen a lot of people talk in SWIM's voice..

And I thought as long as the name wasn't real it would be ok, but I guess not? I will try not to incriminate myself I guess and avoid using 'I' statements, the email attached to this account isn't my main email either...

[yaba]

Really be careful !!! Its hard to understand mycology and it will take time to learn about mushrooms. (swims meds kicking in got to go soon) Its good to read as much as possible (here is a good place to start, many mushroom treads !) Also buying books about "magic" mushrooms is helpful and get some different field guides. If possible join a mycology group and they will tell you whats eatable and whats poisonous in swiy neighborhood.

Got to sleep
Good luck

[Phungushead]

Here's a couple of links for ya to start with...

The Noob Survival Guide:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=37552

And two about SWIM:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=40997
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23365

Labrat is almost positive that SWIMaggie will be getting psilocybe cubensis
mushrooms, for 3 reasons...

1. Most mushrooms which are sold "on the street" are home grown, not
hunted, especially this time of year.

2. Psilocybe cubensis is the most common species of indoor cultivated
mushroom, and by far the most commonly sold species by dealers.

3. Gold caps is a common slang term for psilocybe cubensis. Labrat has
heard of other species of mushrooms (such as panaeolus cyanescens)
being referred to as blue caps, but most of the time these "blue caps"
are just cubensis that have more pronounced bruising. Many dealers will
also try to charge more for them as well, so it is very commonly just
marketing lingo - although it is very important to know for sure what
SWIY is buying/taking since different species have different potencies and
different dosage amounts for the same effects.

These are dried cubensis mushrooms (although different batches will have
appearance variations)...



The Mushroom First Time Questions and Advice Thread:
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=39348

Look around this forum, there is a lot of good information here

Welcome to Drugs Forum.

[Maggie]

Ok, so now I got the whole SWIM thing. But creativity is welcome too, right?

So SWIM wants to try mushrooms with her goat, her goat had done them a few times before, but SWIM hasn't.

SWIM has shown her goat pics of liberty caps and p. cubensis. The goat swears it is liberty caps, which he says is called blue caps, that he has done in the past (he is not a regular shroom user, the goat has only done them about 3 or 4 times) but the goat does recognize the p. cubensis as gold caps.

Is SWIM not finding the proper pictures to show the goat or is is possible that the goat really did have liberty caps? The goat also said that gold caps were harder to get (wouldn't cultivated be easier to get?) and that the liberty/blue caps were cheap and easier to get.

Is SWIM does end up getting liberty caps, does someone know any links that SWIM can use to properly ID so that SWIM and her goat don't get ripped off and eat some poisonous or nonmagic mushrooms or something?

[Coconut]

Originally Posted by Maggie

Ok, so now I got the whole SWIM thing. But creativity is welcome too, right?

Absolutely. Creativity is encouraged over using SWIM.

Originally Posted by Maggie

Is SWIM not finding the proper pictures to show the goat or is is possible that the goat really did have liberty caps? The goat also said that gold caps were harder to get (wouldn't cultivated be easier to get?) and that the liberty/blue caps were cheap and easier to get.

Libery caps (Psilocybe semilanceata) are very abundant in temperate climates during autumn - they grow on lawns and in fields. It is possible that an expert hunter could obtain wild mushrooms with far greater ease than cultivation.

Originally Posted by Maggie

Is SWIM does end up getting liberty caps, does someone know any links that SWIM can use to properly ID so that SWIM and her goat don't get ripped off and eat some poisonous or nonmagic mushrooms or something?

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=31298

There are many photos of Psilocybe semilanceata on the Internet and on Drugs-Forum. Here is an example:

[Dave_the_stoner]

Also liberty caps (psilocybe semilanceata) will be far smaller than psilocybe cubensis, and much more potent. It is unlikely one will recieve liberty caps at this time of year since they are a supreme pain in the ass to cultivate indoors, and in the wild fruit in the fall (although if one has a good picking spot, they could harvest enough to last throughout the year). So seeing if the "blue caps" are much smaller than the "gold caps" would be a good indiation of if thats what they are.
Swim thinks panaeolus cyanescens (or other panaeolus varieties) would also be a likely cantidate to be the "blue caps" since one can also cultivate these at home fairly easily and have noticably higher potency than psilocybe cubensis. Although pan cyans would likely cost more than cubensis to produce so it would not make sence for them to be cheaper.