Drugs-Forum  
Home Wiki Studies Forum Groups Blog Video Images News
Go Back   Drugs Forum > DRUG-FORUMS > Opiates & Opioids > Heroin
Mark Forums Read
Register Tags

Notices

 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 22-06-2009, 18:47
nojokeshere nojokeshere is offline
Mercury Member
 
Join Date: 22-06-2009
Female
Posts: 36
nojokeshere needs to UTFSE some more before posting.
Points: 7, Level: 1 Points: 7, Level: 1 Points: 7, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

I mean - that's darn fast. Jack found dead at the park. Needle still in his arm. Randall - open the car door and out tumbles a dead randall, needle still in his arm. Friday morning, Russ, found dead in his apartment, needle still in his arm. Now these are just the ones THIS month.

I mean, I wouldn't have thought anything could get from the vein in your arm to your (heart or brain?) so fast that you didn't even have time to remove the needle. I mean really?!

Now, I'm trying to think of this medically - you know, think it through out loud so others might be able to figure out a way to avoid it.

So if it breathing that stops in an OD, killing a person... it seems to me the H would have to have time to go in the vein, to the brain, ACT in the brain to stop the breathing. How can all that happen so fast? It don't make sence.
  #2  
Old 22-06-2009, 18:56
east_of_eden east_of_eden is offline
Titanium Member
 
Join Date: 27-05-2009
Female from United States
Posts: 625
east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.
Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4
Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

it happens. swim doesn't know the medical reason behind it but has woken up several times with the needle still in or a trail of dried blood and the needle on the floor or couch from falling out.

although this doesn't happen the majority of times. its fairly rare.

BUT when swim first shot liquid ketamine, it hit her so fast she literally could barely pull the needle out and this was with trying really hard.
  #3  
Old 22-06-2009, 19:01
fnord fnord is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: 08-12-2003
Male
Posts: 4,459
Blog Entries: 4
fnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medline
Points: 6,830, Level: 12 Points: 6,830, Level: 12 Points: 6,830, Level: 12
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

They were probably nodding off while shooting up,grandmas fallen asleep while trying to boot up more dope before.
  #4  
Old 22-06-2009, 19:03
SmokeNmirrors SmokeNmirrors is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 08-07-2007
26 y/o Male from USA - Pennsylvania
Posts: 447
SmokeNmirrors is captain of the psychonauts.SmokeNmirrors is captain of the psychonauts.SmokeNmirrors is captain of the psychonauts.
Points: 653, Level: 4 Points: 653, Level: 4 Points: 653, Level: 4
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Sometimes after swim shoots he leaves the needle in his arm just for a little bit specially if he has to run and get a napkin or tissue to clean up his arm. Swim has a needle fixation though which probably adds to that logic.
  #5  
Old 22-06-2009, 19:20
nojokeshere nojokeshere is offline
Mercury Member
 
Join Date: 22-06-2009
Female
Posts: 36
nojokeshere needs to UTFSE some more before posting.
Points: 7, Level: 1 Points: 7, Level: 1 Points: 7, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Quote:
Originally Posted by east_of_eden View Post
it happens. swim doesn't know the medical reason behind it but has woken up several times with the needle still in or a trail of dried blood and the needle on the floor or couch from falling out.

although this doesn't happen the majority of times. its fairly rare.

BUT when swim first shot liquid ketamine, it hit her so fast she literally could barely pull the needle out and this was with trying really hard.
Wow. I'm in awe. Seriously.
So, what happened to her? I mean, when she woke up, was that the end of it or was there still a buzz left?
  #6  
Old 23-06-2009, 01:15
Rightnow289 Rightnow289 is offline
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 27-08-2008
Male from Earth
Posts: 1,682
Blog Entries: 2
Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.
Points: 4,315, Level: 9 Points: 4,315, Level: 9 Points: 4,315, Level: 9
Activity: 0.5% Activity: 0.5% Activity: 0.5%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Pacman can't imagine a ketamine overdose to be nice
  #7  
Old 23-06-2009, 04:58
fnord fnord is offline
Banned
 
Join Date: 08-12-2003
Male
Posts: 4,459
Blog Entries: 4
fnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medlinefnord must mainline Medline
Points: 6,830, Level: 12 Points: 6,830, Level: 12 Points: 6,830, Level: 12
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkhead23 View Post
Pacman can't imagine a ketamine overdose to be nice
Trust me (not counting use of a IV bag)you would be unconcius before you could administer a lethal dose of ketimine.
  #8  
Old 23-06-2009, 08:22
dyingtomorrow dyingtomorrow is offline
R.I.P.
 
Join Date: 16-10-2008
31 y/o Male from United States
Posts: 2,590
Blog Entries: 5
dyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumdyingtomorrow is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forum
Points: 8,663, Level: 13 Points: 8,663, Level: 13 Points: 8,663, Level: 13
Activity: 11.0% Activity: 11.0% Activity: 11.0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

It doesn't kill you instantly, rather the person just nodded off immediately and then died sometime later.
  #9  
Old 23-06-2009, 09:22
Spucky Spucky is offline
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 09-02-2009
Male from Japan
Posts: 2,415
Spucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline MedlineSpucky must mainline Medline
Points: 4,534, Level: 9 Points: 4,534, Level: 9 Points: 4,534, Level: 9
Activity: 0.1% Activity: 0.1% Activity: 0.1%
AW: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

There is a high Possibility that this Reaction is a Shock!
That means the Body try to stop Poison from reaching the Brain.
The Blood stops to circulate.

"just remember that Death is not the End...................."
(Nick Cave)

The LD.50 Dose of Ketamin:
Quote:
LD50-LC50 Mixture: RAT ORAL LD50: 447 MG/KG
That means before you Die you will be shoot to the Restaurant on the End of the Universe,
drinking a Panagalactycthunderguggle-Cocktail, come back and get Born (42 times), etc.........!

Last edited by Spucky; 23-06-2009 at 09:31.
  #10  
Old 23-06-2009, 17:43
east_of_eden east_of_eden is offline
Titanium Member
 
Join Date: 27-05-2009
Female from United States
Posts: 625
east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.
Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4
Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Quote:
Originally Posted by nojokeshere View Post
Wow. I'm in awe. Seriously.
So, what happened to her? I mean, when she woke up, was that the end of it or was there still a buzz left?
well when swim has woken up with a needle in her arm (from heroin) she'll usually realize it when she kind of comes out of a nod, then she'll take it out and nod out again.

the IV ketamine thing was the strangest feeling because she felt its effects instantly, the moment the first say third of it was in, so by the time it was all in she could barely move at all. she really didn't like it much but her friends loved it. she had two friends that shot up ketamine mixed with speed which she didn't want to do because she thought that sounded dangerous and not fun and was way past her days of liking speed anymore anyways.

east_of_eden added 2 Minutes and 45 Seconds later...

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spucky View Post
There is a high Possibility that this Reaction is a Shock!
That means the Body try to stop Poison from reaching the Brain.
The Blood stops to circulate.

"just remember that Death is not the End...................."
(Nick Cave)

The LD.50 Dose of Ketamin:
That means before you Die you will be shoot to the Restaurant on the End of the Universe,
drinking a Panagalactycthunderguggle-Cocktail, come back and get Born (42 times), etc.........!
swim doesn't know what the dose was but it was in one of those hospital (or in this case vetrinarian) bottles of drugs where you stick the needle in the top and draw it back into the syringe.

Last edited by east_of_eden; 23-06-2009 at 17:43. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
  #11  
Old 23-06-2009, 18:51
H Bomber H Bomber is offline
Titanium Member
 
Join Date: 07-06-2009
Male from United States
Posts: 151
H Bomber is captain of the psychonauts.H Bomber is captain of the psychonauts.H Bomber is captain of the psychonauts.
Points: 535, Level: 3 Points: 535, Level: 3 Points: 535, Level: 3
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Quote:
Originally Posted by dyingtomorrow View Post
It doesn't kill you instantly, rather the person just nodded off immediately and then died sometime later.
This is completely accurate. Swim has overdosed himself and seen many other people overdose as well. He has only overdosed on fentanyl, but even with such a fast acting opioid he nodded into an unconscious state before his breathing slowed to a stop. He is pretty sure that he only left the needle in his arm the one time that he required medical attention.
  #12  
Old 23-06-2009, 21:02
east_of_eden east_of_eden is offline
Titanium Member
 
Join Date: 27-05-2009
Female from United States
Posts: 625
east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.
Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4
Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

swim is confused on what people would consider an overdose. she always thought an "overdose" was something that you either died from or someone was there or found you in time to call the paramedics and so the person was okay.

nodding out (with or without a needle in your arm) but then coming to later isn't an overdose, right?
  #13  
Old 23-06-2009, 22:47
Wehr Wehr is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 25-10-2007
Male from United States
Posts: 112
Wehr is a decent psychonaut.
Points: 245, Level: 2 Points: 245, Level: 2 Points: 245, Level: 2
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Swim thinks maybe they're just enjoying the 'rush' then nod out and it's game over.
  #14  
Old 24-06-2009, 00:05
nojokeshere nojokeshere is offline
Mercury Member
 
Join Date: 22-06-2009
Female
Posts: 36
nojokeshere needs to UTFSE some more before posting.
Points: 7, Level: 1 Points: 7, Level: 1 Points: 7, Level: 1
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: AW: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spucky View Post
"just remember that Death is not the End...................."
I'm counting on that. I just have to be sure I know where I'm going, and exactly how to get there!

nojokeshere added 2 Minutes and 53 Seconds later...

Quote:
well when swim has woken up with a needle in her arm (from heroin) she'll usually realize it when she kind of comes out of a nod, then she'll take it out and nod out again.
So that's like - her bucks were spent on nap time. Drag.

nojokeshere added 3 Minutes and 59 Seconds later...

Quote:
Originally Posted by east_of_eden View Post
swim is confused on what people would consider an overdose. she always thought an "overdose" was something that you either died from or someone was there or found you in time to call the paramedics and so the person was okay.

nodding out (with or without a needle in your arm) but then coming to later isn't an overdose, right?
Yeah... that question...
So nodding out is a normal part? Or nodding out = your friend had too much?

Last edited by nojokeshere; 24-06-2009 at 00:05. Reason: Automerged Doublepost
  #15  
Old 24-06-2009, 00:34
east_of_eden east_of_eden is offline
Titanium Member
 
Join Date: 27-05-2009
Female from United States
Posts: 625
east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.east_of_eden really adds to the discussion.
Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4 Points: 813, Level: 4
Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0% Activity: 1.0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

"Yeah... that question...
So nodding out is a normal part? Or nodding out = your friend had too much?"

my cat thinks that nodding out is the normal part. to my cat, that's pretty much the point.
  #16  
Old 24-06-2009, 01:14
m.swinehart81 m.swinehart81 is offline
Silver Member
 
Join Date: 10-04-2009
32 y/o Male from United States
Posts: 353
m.swinehart81 is a decent psychonaut.
Points: 669, Level: 4 Points: 669, Level: 4 Points: 669, Level: 4
Activity: 0% Activity: 0% Activity: 0%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Quote:
Originally Posted by east_of_eden View Post
"Yeah... that question...
So nodding out is a normal part? Or nodding out = your friend had too much?"

my cat thinks that nodding out is the normal part. to my cat, that's pretty much the point.
Depends on how serious of a "nod" it is...
  #17  
Old 24-06-2009, 05:09
ex-junkie ex-junkie is offline
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 23-02-2009
Female from Earth
Posts: 2,511
Blog Entries: 1
ex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forum
Points: 5,765, Level: 11 Points: 5,765, Level: 11 Points: 5,765, Level: 11
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

did they inject into a vein or an artery?
  #18  
Old 24-06-2009, 16:47
Rightnow289 Rightnow289 is offline
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 27-08-2008
Male from Earth
Posts: 1,682
Blog Entries: 2
Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.
Points: 4,315, Level: 9 Points: 4,315, Level: 9 Points: 4,315, Level: 9
Activity: 0.5% Activity: 0.5% Activity: 0.5%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

It all really depends. SWIY can have a mild overdose and probably live although SWIY would be extremely lucky.
  #19  
Old 24-06-2009, 20:48
mickey_bee Gold member mickey_bee is offline
Gold Member
 
Join Date: 17-09-2008
26 y/o Male from United Kingdom
Posts: 1,018
mickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medlinemickey_bee must mainline Medline
Points: 2,651, Level: 7 Points: 2,651, Level: 7 Points: 2,651, Level: 7
Activity: 0.2% Activity: 0.2% Activity: 0.2%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

If swim goes, then this is the way he'd like to go. No time to worry about the people you're fucking over.
  #20  
Old 25-06-2009, 02:04
ex-junkie ex-junkie is offline
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 23-02-2009
Female from Earth
Posts: 2,511
Blog Entries: 1
ex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forum
Points: 5,765, Level: 11 Points: 5,765, Level: 11 Points: 5,765, Level: 11
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

^swim used to feel like that too. she figured she would be doing them all a favour by dying.

THIS IS SO THE OPPOSITE TO HOW SHE FEELS NORMALLY.

would have been such a pity if she had died with those feelings, and never lived to have the opportunity to *know*, that she didnt wanna go out like that.
  #21  
Old 25-06-2009, 07:50
Rightnow289 Rightnow289 is offline
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 27-08-2008
Male from Earth
Posts: 1,682
Blog Entries: 2
Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.Rightnow289 really knows their shit.
Points: 4,315, Level: 9 Points: 4,315, Level: 9 Points: 4,315, Level: 9
Activity: 0.5% Activity: 0.5% Activity: 0.5%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Yeah pacman would love to OD. It would assuage the guilt of doing it himself and also just makes things easier for those around him
  #22  
Old 25-06-2009, 11:13
ex-junkie ex-junkie is offline
Palladium Member
 
Join Date: 23-02-2009
Female from Earth
Posts: 2,511
Blog Entries: 1
ex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forumex-junkie is living in mutualistic symbiosis with drugs-forum
Points: 5,765, Level: 11 Points: 5,765, Level: 11 Points: 5,765, Level: 11
Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7% Activity: 1.7%
Re: Dead before getting the needle out of their arm

Quote:
Originally Posted by Junkhead23 View Post
Yeah pacman would love to OD. It would assuage the guilt of doing it himself and also just makes things easier for those around him
trust swim when she says, that the people who love swiy will be devastated- regardless of how fucked up swiy thinks he is. they never lose hope for swiys recovery. they might not know how to deal with swiy, or understand, but they always have hope.

Share this on:

Tags
drug, drug overdose, heroin, heroin effects, heroin overdose, heroin side effects, nodding, nodding off, opiate nod, opiate od, opiate overdose, overdose

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
*- NEEDLE LOST IN ARM -* 2 years later he strikes back! Ragnar Danneskjöld Opiate addiction 5 06-06-2012 02:49
USA - Taking it Furthur – Waking the Dead Docta Culture (News) 4 19-12-2011 20:57
Oh shit, needle broke off in my arm Devotchka Heroin 18 04-10-2010 01:25
Using GPS & Dead Drops 0utrider Law and order 5 01-02-2010 21:18
USA - Texas needle exchange dead for now old hippie 56 Drug Policy Reform & Narco Politics 12 18-05-2008 15:15

» New Threads
Ephedrine hcl, caffeine, yohimbe,...
Last post by Alien Sex Fiend
4 Replies, 482 Views
help!! have no idea how to keep...
Last post by Lucyin_the_sky_of_dimonds
2 Replies, 23 Views
Today I Legally Purchased Cannabis...
Last post by Alien Sex Fiend
2 Replies, 133 Views
In need of some outside...
Last post by Alien Sex Fiend
1 Replies, 20 Views
What to do on SPEED COMEDOWN??
Last post by Aussie_23
20 Replies, 57,095 Views
7 days clean from Oxycodone - need...
Last post by StellarPeaceMaker
1 Replies, 63 Views
Quite the unpleasant experience....
Last post by ima.get.her.doee
8 Replies, 463 Views
Please help - Need support -...
Last post by JonnyBGoode
5 Replies, 163 Views
Cleaning meth pipe
Last post by dianatanner
118 Replies, 150,799 Views
Worst cocaine side effect?
Last post by Stoke
2 Replies, 121 Views
» New Wiki Articles
GHB
NET

Sitelinks: Information:

All times are GMT +1. The time now is 14:08.


Copyright: SIN Foundation 2003 - 2014, All rights reserved