Injecting - Shooting melted plastic in your arm

[nojokeshere]

Ok, so I find the needle stash (a few last remaining) and remove them for a loved one. The plastic near the needle was all brown and melty.

WHAT !?!?!?

I mean, a person puts it in their arm still hot enough to melt plastic? Wouldn't that kind of do something bad to the body?

And, if the plastic is melty, that means some of the plastic stuff probably went into a persons arm - Wow - that don't sound good. I mean it seems that hot melty plastic would be enough to kill a person.

Right? Or is this normal and common for needles and I was just not use to seeing that?

[laing1981]

well it must have been exceptionally boiling in order to melt the syringe. swim, and others know that plastic fumes are deadly for the lungs so having plastic particles floating around in the veins is not good

The contamination of intravenously administered fluid with foreign material has always been of major concern, but the in-vivo impact of silicone embolisation from administration of fluid via a peristaltic finger pump (PFP) has not previously been assessed. To determine whether silicone particles enter the lungs and to review the histological response, 10 rabbits received an IV infusion of 0.9% saline at 10 ml/kg per hour over a 72-h period, via an IVAC 591 PFP. The lungs were analysed for silicone particles with scanning electron microscopy (SEM) and energy-dispersive X-ray analysis (EDXA). These results were compared with a control group of non-infused animals. Silicone particles were found in 8 of 10 animals in the experimental group and in 2 of 9 control animals, indicating that silicone particles are dislodged during pump-assisted IV infusions. The difference between the control and infused animals was statistically significant using Fisher's exact test (P = 0.023). However, silicone plastic particles in control animals suggest that there is also environmental exposure to silicone in addition to those particles that come from a therapeutic source. The additional finding of elemental silicon (which is one of the constituents of silicone plastic) in both infused and control animals in which silicone plastic was not found indicates that not all elemental silicon in animals reflects the presence of silicone plastic. The clinical significance of each of these two findings is yet to be determined

the vast majority of plastic are composed of polymers of carbon and hydrogen alone or hydrogen, nitrogen, chlorine or sulphur in the backbone so if these chemicals are broken down by heat then polyvinyl chloride is produced and this is highly toxic.

maybe swiy loved one wasnt injecting plastic into the arm, maybe they were bored so just melted it with a lighter!!

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[nojokeshere]

Yes - I like that - just board and playing with the lighter! I just thought it was from the liquid because of the bent and burnt spoons and because the melty part was only the part closest to the needle. (Which I got stuck with BTW

[old hippie 56]

Or, the person might have had a plugged needle and using a heat source to break it free, seen it done just to transfer to another syringe/spoon.

[old hippie 56]

That is one major drawback with using attached needles, interrupted shot with blood in the barrel. Let it sit for a few minutes and the blood has clotted and will not break free. Plunger won't move, so the only remedy is to heat the end and hope it will break free.

[nojokeshere]

Oh - you mean like when a person is getting ready to use shoot up, they draw a little blood into the needle so they know they got a vein?

And if they get intterupted (mom knocks on room door kind of thing) - then they put it down and that's what happens? I understand.

Boy, a person must really pass out quick and be out good by the way I've seen some laying all uncomfortable and crazy - half on and half off a bed, all upside down and stuff.

[east_of_eden]

Originally Posted by nojokeshere

Oh - you mean like when a person is getting ready to use shoot up, they draw a little blood into the needle so they know they got a vein?

And if they get intterupted (mom knocks on room door kind of thing) - then they put it down and that's what happens? I understand.

Boy, a person must really pass out quick and be out good by the way I've seen some laying all uncomfortable and crazy - half on and half off a bed, all upside down and stuff.

Ha ... yeah, sorry to laugh but that reminds swim of all the times she's woken up with dents/impressions in her forehead from nodding out on something for hours and not feeling it, and so many other crazy positions she's nodded out in and seen others in.

and about swiny's question regarding the burnt syringe, is swiny positive it was burnt? a lot of times they have blood on the inside and maybe some old, dried heroin remnants on the outside near the tip.

and if swiny is sure they were burnt/melted, swim thinks it was most likely to unclog the blood so it could be transferred to another syringe because that happens a lot when it becomes more difficult to find a vein.

[nojokeshere]

Originally Posted by east_of_eden

Ha ... yeah, sorry to laugh but that reminds swim of all the times she's woken up with dents/impressions in her forehead from nodding out on something for hours and not feeling it, and so many other crazy positions she's nodded out in and seen others in.

and about swiny's question regarding the burnt syringe, is swiny positive it was burnt? a lot of times they have blood on the inside and maybe some old, dried heroin remnants on the outside near the tip.

and if swiny is sure they were burnt/melted, swim thinks it was most likely to unclog the blood so it could be transferred to another syringe because that happens a lot when it becomes more difficult to find a vein.

Yeah - it was melted enough to start twisting and turning. Even had a little fingure print on a part from touching when still too hot. I guess trying re-mold it?

I would be an interesting read if swimmers (?) kept a little 'stuff that happened' jounal on line. Some of the stuff must be a hoot.

[dyingtomorrow]

Sometimes if the needle clogs people will heat up that area quickly with a lighter to unclog it. Maybe they went overboard though.