Drug info - MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

[DarkDead]

Please post info about MDPPP here.
Can anyone add information about:

• names / synonyms
• molecule
• dose
• duration
• side effects
• legal status
• have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
• since when has this research chemical been available?
• stability of the molecule / compound

R,S-3',4'-Methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (MDPPP) is a new designer drug with assumed amphetamine-like effects, which has appeared on the illicit drug market.

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Names / synonyms
MDPPP
3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropio
3', 4'-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidino-propiophenone
1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-(1-pyrrolidinyl)-1-propanone (IUPAC)

Belongs to pyrrolidinophenone type as PPP, MOPPP, MPPP and MPHP. Font: http://designer-drugs.com/synopsis.html

It shares a similar chemical structure with α-PPP and MDPV.

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Molecule

584px-MDPPP.svg.png

Dose

According to a user on other forum the US 3478050 patent gives a hint for dosage roughly around 10-20 mg. I couldn't find any trip reports so anyone experimenting with this should start much lower.

Side effects

Hypertension

The patent states "low toxicity" compared known stimulants, but that's vague...

According to the same user refered above.

Since when has this research chemical been available?

It was sold in Germany in the late 1990s and early 2000s as an ingredient in imitation ecstacy (MDMA) pills.

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These documents about MDPPP are in the file archive

MDPPP pictures

[Synesthesiac]

No one tried this one yet? I'd be very interested in its effects... haven't found one report yet despite it apparently being around a while. Cut and paste from other forums if people know of any reports.

[dr ACE]

swim has ordered a sample and will post a trip report once the chemical has been tested

[dr ACE]

swim has tested this compound recently and found it to be very much like mdpv but less potent, stimulating, kind of euphoric, amphetamine like short duration of action, has the compulsive desire to re-dose like mdpv but not as much. Dose not feel as toxic as mdpv but did cause much intestinal upset could be due to empty stomach before taking. Has kind of stoning effect could be due to lack of sleep before experiment or conclusive valium use. overall swim would say not that interesting but has potenial as stimulant/euphoriant, does used were 20-30mg and 50mg

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Good and new information. Please bring more as SWIM proceeds his experiments.
	Very useful information on a rare compound
	Finally someones tried it and shared, well done. Next time adding weight, dosage, duration, etc, (or editting) would be ...
	Thanks for the reports and info in this thread.

[dr ACE]

swim has done more experiments and used 1000mg(this is kind of dumb on swims behave but he has a very addictive nature, and it did seem kind of addictive. In the period of an afternoon and a night the 1gram was ingested in 50-100mg lines 50mg orals, and tryed smoking it but it taseted very toxic by this route kind of not right. There was no side effects apart from diharea, frequent urination, then finding it hard to urinate problaby due to lack of fluids and too much tobbaco. and the usual paranioa,delusions but no where near as bad as one of those heavy anxious psyhotic MDPV overdoes. injoyable chem no real entheogenic insight just kind of boring speedy,ritalin kind of high. does have libido enhancing qualites too not as much as PV though

[Codehead]

So how long it lasts? Will it last longer than MDPV?

[dr ACE]

no swim would say last shorter than MDPV, swim did notice some insights while experimenting with this compound but not any entheogenic effect

[Codehead]

Weel it depents what MDPV you mean, as there has been tan colored MDPV and white MDPV. For me white MDPV lasts only about 1-1,30h, so MDPPP is even more short lasting or?

Codehead added 0 Minutes and 51 Seconds later...

Oh not for me but my friend SWIM.

[Codehead]

Should this be slightly brown and sticky powder?

[dr ACE]

Originally Posted by Codehead

Should this be slightly brown and sticky powder?

brown/light brown powder not sticky atall fluffy and light like pure MDPV
the duration was about 1-1/2hrs. Most MDPV swim has tried has an intese buzz for 1-2 then after affect for 2-3hr regardless of whether its white or tan coloured

[Codehead]

Originally Posted by dr ACE

brown/light brown powder not sticky atall fluffy and light like pure MDPV
the duration was about 1-1/2hrs. Most MDPV swim has tried has an intese buzz for 1-2 then after affect for 2-3hr regardless of whether its white or tan coloured

Ok it seems tyhat I have right stuff then, its not sticky but sticks on the bag easily, that I meant.

Reputation Comments on this post:

Read up on the rules of self-incrimination. Try the 3rd person; don't reveal possession of any chemical.

[Codehead]

SWIM has done some more reasearchs with this stuff, it seems that he needs at least 40mg to get any recreational value from this, maybe because I have ADD. 40mg+ doses feels pretty much like MDPV, but without anxiety and paranoia. I also notice this to have some kind of stoning effects. But thats actually pretty good, as you can focus and concentrate to anything you want but still chill out, like reading a book or watching a movie. I think cannabis would make good combo with this.

Codehead added 1 Minutes and 43 Seconds later...

For SWIM 10-25mg doses just calms him down, no anymore mind racing around like normally. Feel same like 36mg methylphenidate.

[Codehead]

Hmm, so I used all the 1g. I came to coclusion that this is not anything special and its expensive, as I ended up finding that recreational doses were 50-100mg (possibely tolernace) and PLUGGED. Lasts about 1h. It is smoother than MDPV, so haven't got even once any anxiety or paranoia from this. But still MDPV is better as it works at 10mg same way as MDPPP works on 100mg. Also MDPV lasts longer and gives stronger stimulation and "euphoria" (if you find it as it).

So nothing special. I stick on the MDPV.

Codehead added 1 Minutes and 6 Seconds later...

Yeah, and again, I didnt experimental this, my friend "I" did..

Reputation Comments on this post:

Nice comparison between MDPV and MDPPP.

[Quovadic]

SWIM has a question, he got his MDPPP today and it is pure white pouder(maby very little brownish). SWIM finds it to taste like baking powder and when rubbing the powder on the gums and insulfating it burns. SWIM wonders is the other SWIMS has had the same effect of the MDPPP. Also SWIM ingested around 0,5g and does not feel anything speciall. Is what SWIM has aquired MDPPP?

[dozzy]

swim had also the chance to test MDPPP.its appearance is close to the tan
mdpv,light brownish/grey.also the taste insufflated has faint similarity of
the fruity taste of the tan stuff.it the dose for this insufflated is,like said
before,50-100 mg.it lacks the strong urge to redose,and even if you do,
you get nowhere to the paranoid,dysphoric state,which MDPV can produce.
duration is something like 5 hours.its pretty much a straight stimulant.
swim also had the impression,it does not produce that much cardiac stress.
he finds it rather pleasent.no hangover next day.no special increase in sex
drive(except the fact that almost every stim increases this for him mentally,
while reducing the actual possibility).
still,he wonders about the longtime safety of this.
anybody came across scientific research about this ?

dozzy added 1 Minutes and 24 Seconds later...

yeah,and it does not burn at all insufflated or orally.

Reputation Comments on this post:

	Thanks for the report
	Good report with new details.