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Old 22-06-2009, 00:21
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MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

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R,S-3',4'-Methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone (MDPPP) is a new designer drug with assumed amphetamine-like effects, which has appeared on the illicit drug market.
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MDPPP
3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropio
3', 4'-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidino-propiophenone
1-(3,4-methylenedioxyphenyl)-2-(1-pyrrolidinyl)-1-propanone (IUPAC)

Belongs to pyrrolidinophenone type as PPP, MOPPP, MPPP and MPHP. Font: http://designer-drugs.com/synopsis.html
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It shares a similar chemical structure with α-PPP and MDPV.
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Molecule

584px-MDPPP.svg.png

Dose

According to a user on other forum the US 3478050 patent gives a hint for dosage roughly around 10-20 mg. I couldn't find any trip reports so anyone experimenting with this should start much lower.

Side effects

Hypertension
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The patent states "low toxicity" compared known stimulants, but that's vague...
According to the same user refered above.

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It was sold in Germany in the late 1990s and early 2000s as an ingredient in imitation ecstacy (MDMA) pills.
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

No one tried this one yet? I'd be very interested in its effects... haven't found one report yet despite it apparently being around a while. Cut and paste from other forums if people know of any reports.
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Old 13-07-2009, 15:11
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

swim has tested this compound recently and found it to be very much like mdpv but less potent, stimulating, kind of euphoric, amphetamine like short duration of action, has the compulsive desire to re-dose like mdpv but not as much. Dose not feel as toxic as mdpv but did cause much intestinal upset could be due to empty stomach before taking. Has kind of stoning effect could be due to lack of sleep before experiment or conclusive valium use. overall swim would say not that interesting but has potenial as stimulant/euphoriant, does used were 20-30mg and 50mg

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Very useful information on a rare compound
Finally someones tried it and shared, well done. Next time adding weight, dosage, duration, etc, (or editting) would be good
Thanks for the reports and info in this thread.
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Old 14-07-2009, 15:18
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

swim has done more experiments and used 1000mg(this is kind of dumb on swims behave but he has a very addictive nature, and it did seem kind of addictive. In the period of an afternoon and a night the 1gram was ingested in 50-100mg lines 50mg orals, and tryed smoking it but it taseted very toxic by this route kind of not right. There was no side effects apart from diharea, frequent urination, then finding it hard to urinate problaby due to lack of fluids and too much tobbaco. and the usual paranioa,delusions but no where near as bad as one of those heavy anxious psyhotic MDPV overdoes. injoyable chem no real entheogenic insight just kind of boring speedy,ritalin kind of high. does have libido enhancing qualites too not as much as PV though
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AW: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

So how long it lasts? Will it last longer than MDPV?
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Old 20-07-2009, 11:28
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

no swim would say last shorter than MDPV, swim did notice some insights while experimenting with this compound but not any entheogenic effect

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Old 20-07-2009, 19:03
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AW: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

Weel it depents what MDPV you mean, as there has been tan colored MDPV and white MDPV. For swim white MDPV lasts only about 1-1,30h, so MDPPP is even more short lasting or?

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Should this be slightly brown and sticky powder?
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Old 23-07-2009, 11:33
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Re: AW: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

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Should this be slightly brown and sticky powder?
brown/light brown powder not sticky atall fluffy and light like pure MDPV
the duration was about 1-1/2hrs. Most MDPV swim has tried has an intese buzz for 1-2 then after affect for 2-3hr regardless of whether its white or tan coloured
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brown/light brown powder not sticky atall fluffy and light like pure MDPV
the duration was about 1-1/2hrs. Most MDPV swim has tried has an intese buzz for 1-2 then after affect for 2-3hr regardless of whether its white or tan coloured
Ok it seems tyhat swim has right stuff then, its not sticky but sticks on the bag easily, thats what swim meant.

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SWIM has done some more reasearchs with this stuff, it seems that he needs at least 40mg to get any recreational value from this, maybe because I have ADD. 40mg+ doses feels pretty much like MDPV, but without anxiety and paranoia. I also notice this to have some kind of stoning effects. But thats actually pretty good, as you can focus and concentrate to anything you want but still chill out, like reading a book or watching a movie. I think cannabis would make good combo with this.

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For SWIM 10-25mg doses just calms him down, no anymore mind racing around like normally. Feel same like 36mg methylphenidate.

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Hmm, so swim used all the 1g. Swim came to coclusion that this is not anything special and its expensive, as swim ended up finding that recreational doses were 50-100mg (possibely tolernace) and PLUGGED. Lasts about 1h. It is smoother than MDPV, so swim hasn't got even once any anxiety or paranoia from this. But still MDPV is better as it works at 10mg same way as MDPPP works on 100mg. Also MDPV lasts longer and gives stronger stimulation and "euphoria" (if swiy finds it as it).

So nothing special. swim stick on the MDPV.

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Nice comparison between MDPV and MDPPP.

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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

SWIM has a question, he got his MDPPP today and it is pure white pouder(maby very little brownish). SWIM finds it to taste like baking powder and when rubbing the powder on the gums and insulfating it burns. SWIM wonders is the other SWIMS has had the same effect of the MDPPP. Also SWIM ingested around 0,5g and does not feel anything speciall. Is what SWIM has aquired MDPPP?
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

swim had also the chance to test MDPPP.its appearance is close to the tan
mdpv,light brownish/grey.also the taste insufflated has faint similarity of
the fruity taste of the tan stuff.it the dose for this insufflated is,like said
before,50-100 mg.it lacks the strong urge to redose,and even if you do,
you get nowhere to the paranoid,dysphoric state,which MDPV can produce.
duration is something like 5 hours.its pretty much a straight stimulant.
swim also had the impression,it does not produce that much cardiac stress.
he finds it rather pleasent.no hangover next day.no special increase in sex
drive(except the fact that almost every stim increases this for him mentally,
while reducing the actual possibility).
still,he wonders about the longtime safety of this.
anybody came across scientific research about this ?

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yeah,and it does not burn at all insufflated or orally.

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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

Found this today wrtten and lefy by someone.
  • names / synonyms peeves
  • molecule MDPPP (also ethanol + nicoteine)
  • dose 71mg,
  • duration 30-120 hours
  • side effects high bpm, mild palpitations
  • legal status Legal
  • since when has this research chemical been available? Years
  • stability of the molecule / compound 99.0%

First 1mg blob snorted up the nostril to test for allergies of bad synths. After 3 hours, nothing, so weighed out 10mg and snorted.

t=0 Effects were subtle, like swim was really up for doin something.but could not. It was very enjoyable to smoke ciggies under the influence and swim could not resist having two beers with it.

t=40 Effects pretty much gone now, starting to feel a mild crash, so swim redosed with 20mg intranasally. Effects were great and came on fully within 5-15 minutes after snorting it. The main thing it wants to make you do is do is super socialize very quickly. It wasn't long before I was chatting on 5 forums and had about 20 pop up boxes open lol.

t=80 A final line of 30mg was inhaled. Previous sensations all returned in full, with no real notice able drop in effects or tollerance. I was buzzing and hyper, so decided to slowly drink some GBL (2.5ml) to make sure I did not over-doo the stimulatoin a bit.

t+120 A final 20mg can not be resisted now, and swim has an odd urge to try to vaporize some too like MDPV. After the last line he gets out 5mg of mcppp into his glass container, heats, waits a good minute till its all evaped, and inhales. A nice sweet tasta on the tongue, pleasant and very much the same as PV. Not much more effects though from smokking, so swim tried one final rollie with 10mg in. As soon as he finished it he got very strong body tingles which stayed for minutes, he was very sociable and outgoing and kept smoking ridiculous amounts of fags.

t+180 Popped 2mg of diazepam and just one small opiate tramadol (50mg) ,and due to this the comedown was very bearable.

t+240 Slept, but took a good hour.

BPM thoughout: 105 average
Highest: 130
Lowest: 95

I would say that MCPPP is a slightly weak version on MDPV that shares nearly all its main characteristics. However a definate bonus is that swim never felt like he might have overdone a dosage, or got too stimulated, like can hapen with MDPV leaving you with a very anxious feel. It also evaporates clearer than MDPv.

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Clear, detailed report. Thanks!
Good timelined report with a clear description of MDPPP effects along with a much appreciated comparison to MDPV.
since tramadol is a stronger SNRI than opiate it would be a dangerous drug to use for a stimulant comedown
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

Have started a trip reports page here

This one was mentioned in the ACMD report on cathinones. They mention seizures of this substance in Denmark and Germany.

Also- from wikip:
Formula
C14H17NO3*
Mol. mass
247.28 g/mol
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AW: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

Does this have any empathogenic effects? Could it be used with other empathogens to increase these effects or is it purely a stimulant?
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

The ferrets recently sampled and thoroughly tested MDPPP and found that it is much weaker than MDPV, does not nearly cause so much vasoconstriction, wears off really fast and offers a very clean stimulation without loss of mental acuity or excessive paranoia.
The downside is the euphoria tops off early and no amount of reuse can make it more intense. There were really no empathogenic effects, but then again, MDPV is not an empathogen unless some increase in libido (not nearly as much as MDPV..) qualifies.
this stuff is really a straight stimulant with the main thing going for it being the short duration of action. The ferrets IVed 100 mg bumps one after the other and never felt overstimulated or like this drug could trigger a seizure. This is not to say it can't but given the amount used over 12 hours (1.3 grams) the lab manager's subjective impression is that the risk of seizures for the mustalids is not great. Could be a problem for others but then again any stimulant will lower a ferret's seizure threshold.
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

Is there any information about drug tests and metabolites of this chemical? Is there a chance of it showing up or triggering a false positive in a standard five panel test?
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

I am not finding any reason why it should trigger a false postive in a standard five panel test.
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

swim finds this reports about MDPP very interesting. As swim mentioned in some other threads, he is fairly new to RC's and is thinking about getting samples of MDPP and MDPV as "cocaine" substitute.

Can anybody give Swim some kind of comparison and perhaps an advise?
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

swim would really like your advises on MDPPP compared to other drugs as MDPV or even cocaine...

i am sure someone knows somebody who know somebody with experiences.
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

5Grams insufflated by rats. Rats were made alert. they did not seem euphoric at all. made them somewhat chatty. overall they were mostly bored. substance was brown and fluffy almost like a spice for baking. was used to taper comedowns from more powerful substances.
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

5 grams?? Over how long? That seems like a huge amount.
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Re: MDPPP 3,4-methylenedioxy-alpha-pyrrolidinopropiophenone

5g lasted a long time because the rats weren't very impressed with it. (about 2 weekends shared with other rats)

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