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Old 21-06-2009, 20:39
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smoking Diphenhydramine

swim has some of the generic Benadryll "mini-tabs". he crushed a few of them up and smoked em last night. his hallucinations came almost immediately from just 75mg smoked. is swim alone in smoking Diphenhydramine? swim has searched and googled and cannot find proof that Diphenhydramine cannot be smoke. quite the contrary there are a few erowid reports of others doing this. any personal experiences SWIMs?

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Old 21-06-2009, 23:34
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

My raver friend wouldn't want to tempt fate without knowing what harmful chemicals diphenhydramine would degrade too upon being exposed to such high temperatures as smoking would require.
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Old 22-06-2009, 19:46
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

A person would advise not smoking diphenhydramine. The only active ingredient needs to be absorbed into your body to take any effect, so eating it seems like the more logical choice. He's very skeptical about smoking it giving noticeable effects. Could that person please describe in detail these feelings and hallucinations? Were they auditory or visual? How did it burn? Was the taste bad?

Also, many non-active ingredients go into making a pill, gelcap, or softgel, whatever it may be. A person imagines those ingredients weren't developed with combustion in mind.
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Old 23-06-2009, 01:14
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

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A person would advise not smoking diphenhydramine. The only active ingredient needs to be absorbed into your body to take any effect, so eating it seems like the more logical choice. He's very skeptical about smoking it giving noticeable effects. Could that person please describe in detail these feelings and hallucinations? Were they auditory or visual? How did it burn? Was the taste bad?

Also, many non-active ingredients go into making a pill, gelcap, or softgel, whatever it may be. A person imagines those ingredients weren't developed with combustion in mind.
swim felt the onset of smoking diphenhydramine as soon as he let the smoke out. swim smokes just powdered tablets...pure dip hcl. swim honestly swears by this method. effects are definatly felt. these hallucinations were visual as well as audible, these were true Diph hallucinations.
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Old 23-06-2009, 02:31
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

Can Swiy provide some more details?


Method used to smoke (Pipe? Foil?, glass vapo? sprinkled on a joint/cigarette?)
Taste?
How did lungs feel? Was it smooth or difficult to keep in?
How did the effects compare to swiys experience with oral ingestion if swiy has experience there?
Duration?
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Old 24-06-2009, 17:44
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

that's nuts

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Old 24-06-2009, 23:00
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

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Can Swiy provide some more details?


Method used to smoke (Pipe? Foil?, glass vapo? sprinkled on a joint/cigarette?)
Taste?
How did lungs feel? Was it smooth or difficult to keep in?
How did the effects compare to swiys experience with oral ingestion if swiy has experience there?
Duration?
Method Used: a bong with a screen
Taste: terrible...like burned sugar
Feeling: smoke was cool and didnt irritate the lungs. very smooth...no discomfort
Efffects: the effects of smoking Diphenhydramine tablets are felt for only about 5 mins/per hit and feel like you have ingested about 300-400mg when you've only smoked 50mg. seems to quadruple the effects when smoked. very odd

it's good for a quick buzz but not a lasting high. swim would only recommend it to those who like the Diphenhydramine high without the heavy body-load feeling that comes along with it.

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Old 24-06-2009, 23:39
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

Crushed up tabs are probably not too good to smoke. Just a recommendation, SWIM refrains from smoking pills, however this has me intrigued. Perhaps if SWIM can find some pure Diphenhydramine then he will try this, perhaps out of a bulb. Does anyone know if Diphenhydramine is water soluble, can it be attained in a purer form just by a simple CWE or is this just wishful thinking?

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*this has SWIM intrigued

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Old 27-06-2009, 17:26
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

Well last night a person crushed up 100mg of diphenhydramine into a nice powder, and packed it into his cone to smoke. Here's what he found..

It was very hard to burn, it seemed to want to melt, not cherry. The smoke had a HORRIBLE taste, and did a number on his lungs. He pulled the whole bowl in one hit and held it in for a few seconds, after exhaling he got a slight buzz in his head but no real effects. Later in the night, he started getting a headache and eventually just went to bed.

So, from A persons experiment, he concludes that smoking diph has no real effects.
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Old 29-06-2009, 11:20
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

DPH is water and alcohol soluble. Considering the amount of filler, even in mini tabs, it's certainly a bad idea to smoke the powder. Extracted DPH or a liquid preparation could be an option, but not with direct flame, which could damage the molecule... DPH does boil at a relatively low temperature.

Swim thinks a cold water extract, not unlike that occasionally done with hydrocodone, could be an excellent option for increased DPH onset.
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Old 30-06-2009, 05:04
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

CWE for fillers? WHat temp does it boil at? Cuz alcohol boils low too.

I'f you're gonna distill you need temps.
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Old 30-06-2009, 05:51
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

MSDS says
"Appearance: white crystalline powder
Boiling Point: Decomposes.
Melting Point: 168°C (334.4°F)"

This rules irrefutably that unknown byproducts are created when smoking pure diphenhydramine HCL. Be warned that no one has access to pure diphenhydramine HCL and therefore is putting their health in danger even further by smoking the inactive ingredients in whatever preparation SWIY comes upon. Be warned.

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Old 05-07-2009, 22:29
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

I think its funny that this is even being considered as a method of indigestion.

I'll let all you SWIY's be the Ginny pigs.
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Old 17-07-2009, 19:49
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

Been researching this for a bit and fond this.

Delivery of diphenhydramine through an inhalation route



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The present invention relates to the delivery of [COLOR=#F26522 ! important][COLOR=#F26522 ! important]antihistamines[/COLOR][/COLOR] through an inhalation route. Specifically, it relates to aerosols containing diphenhydramine that are used in inhalation therapy. In a [COLOR=#F26522 ! important][COLOR=#F26522 ! important]composition[/COLOR][/COLOR] aspect of the present invention, the aerosol comprises particles comprising at least 5 percent by weight of diphenhydramine. In a method aspect of the present invention, diphenhydramine is delivered to a mammal through an inhalation route. The method comprises: a) heating a composition, wherein the composition comprises at least 5 percent by weight of diphenhydramine, to form a vapor; and, b) allowing the vapor to cool, thereby forming a condensation aerosol comprising particles, which is inhaled by the mammal. In a kit aspect of the present invention, a kit for delivering diphenhydramine through an inhalation route to a mammal is provided which comprises: a) a composition comprising at least 5 percent by weight of diphenhydramine; and, b) a device that forms a diphenhydramine containing aerosol from the composition, for inhalation by the mammal.
So vaporizing it through a non water filtered would produce affects.
So no smoking out of a bong will not work.

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woops here is

SOURCE: http://www.patentstorm.us/patents/6884408.html

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Old 19-07-2009, 23:49
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

Yeah that would be a much safer, more manageable, way to ingest diphenhydramine.
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Old 21-07-2009, 06:58
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

wow, people try to smoke anything! All that extra shit in a the pill can't be good for you, but then again it can't be that bad either, if it's only for a quick experiment. Swim'll try it out, not tonight though, he's fresh out
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Old 21-07-2009, 13:00
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

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that's nuts
^^^Agree...People smoking nytoldesperado

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Old 22-07-2009, 02:20
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

Swim is going to vape 75mgs right now. He'll tell everyone the results in a few minutes.

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The effects are a bit milder than swim expected. It feels like about 100-150mgs orally maybe a bit more... hes super tiered and sees things in the corners of his eyes. The vape was very harsh on his throat and tasted horrible.

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Old 22-07-2009, 02:28
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

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The vape was very harsh on his throat and tasted horrible.
to that I say, Duh!

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MSDS says
"Appearance: white crystalline powder
Boiling Point: Decomposes.
Melting Point: 168°C (334.4°F)"

This rules irrefutably that unknown byproducts are created when smoking pure diphenhydramine HCL. Be warned that no one has access to pure diphenhydramine HCL and therefore is putting their health in danger even further by smoking the inactive ingredients in whatever preparation SWIY comes upon. Be warned.
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Old 22-07-2009, 07:27
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

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Benadryll doesn't contain Diphenhydramine.
This post adds nothing to the discussion. when citing a source, it is typical to name the source, because an uncited source offers no testable evidence in support of a claim.

Of course Benadryl contains Diphenhydramine. There is also the consumer product Dramamine which contains dimenhydrinate which you seems to have thought was relevant to the discussion which is another deliriant antihistamine.
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Benadryll doesn't contain Diphenhydramine.
....... I'm looking at a bottle right now. Active ingredients, Diphenhydramine......25mg. FAIL.
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Old 31-07-2009, 05:52
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

you both are right.

In the US Benedryl is Diph.

In the UK it's not.

It's a sticky for a reason.
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

From what I understand of smoking, and how the inhalation of chemicals works, it seems that the only effective way to smoke Diphenhydramine is to freebase it, I could be completely wrong, but the HCL(hydrochloride) states that it's a salt(water soluble and acidic) and that smoking the powder would offer very little effects if any, and would need to be cooked down to it's base chemical structure to do anything.
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

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From what I understand of smoking, and how the inhalation of chemicals works, it seems that the only effective way to smoke Diphenhydramine is to freebase it, I could be completely wrong, but the HCL(hydrochloride) states that it's a salt(water soluble and acidic) and that smoking the powder would offer very little effects if any, and would need to be cooked down to it's base chemical structure to do anything.

...Yet how would one do this? through the use of baking soda, just as in making crack??

anyone know?!
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Re: smoking Diphenhydramine

Chemically it would make all the sense to free base it, just like crack swim is sure there are cleaner and more effective ways to cooking it than using a spoon but swim may try both methods of inhalation about aprox. a week's time(powder and freebase) and report experience

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