Dose - Ambien (Zolpidem) Recreational Dosage?

[staples]

Okay, I've been prescribed to ambien for... 2 years minus a week or so. I remember starting it in December because finals were coming up and the last few weeks before I finally saw a doctor I had been up 3-5 days a time and was having extreme difficulty concentrating on such awful sleeping patterns. Up until then I had been using OTC medications to sleep (as I've always had trouble) and they left me really dehydrated. No I wasn't being kept awake by stimulants.

I also have several friends who have been or still are prescribed to ambien.

I do not abuse it, but after taking them for so long, it takes a bit longer for it to kick in (up to an hour as opposed to 15-20 minutes). I've noticed that it's extremely dependent on how much I've eaten, and even it seems to matter how well-hydrated I am (the more water I drink, the faster it seems to work).

Because it takes longer to kick in, my doctor said it was okay to do something light such as reading or talking online between taking ambien and falling asleep. Even after 2 years, if I take the prescribed dosage and mange to engage myself in some activity that keeps me up while it kicks in (such as a conversation online), I will start to experience hallucinations (icons and text will float clear across the screen, the couch will start to breathe) and even amnesia (for this, I've turned on logging of conversations ). I recently switched from 10mg normal ambien to the 12.5 mg Ambien CR, though.

Indeed, I have met people that find ambien only makes them drowsy and want nothing but sleep. I have also met people that don't notice any effect at all.

On the opposite extreme, I've met people that absolutely love ambien for both sleep and recreation.

Interestingly, I also know a kid who has TRIED to use ambien to sleep, but ends up getting up and doing strange things as soon as amnesia sets in--he doesn't fall asleep for hours at least. This kid, in particular, seems to get amazing recreational effect from 5-10mg (5 if he's also drinking, usually). He will pick fights with chairs and pillows, he will talk to trees and bushes, and he'll make out with posters on the wall. The night he tried to actually sleep, however, he woke up on his couch with a beer bottle in his hand, and another beer bottle under his floor lamp, which was broken in three places. If it weren't for these things, he would've sworn he only slept.

The most dangerous thing it seems is that ambien is a bit inconsistent (at least for me) -- one night it will work great, and the next it won't work at all. The thing is, it IS working, as many people reason that they should take a second one. I've done this too; rational thought just isn't there when ambien doesn't seem to be working. However, while sober I cannot say that I should ever take more than one at a time. I've found that placing my prescription bottle in a locking brief-case after I've taken an ambien, and removing the bottle in the morning is a good way to avoid this, if anyone else has experienced this.

I don't know how to explain this besides that there's a specific feeling plus some drowsiness that i associate with ambien working. However, even when I don't get these signs, I can still seem to fall asleep if I try to, but have no problem staying up if I don't -- it's just that when I don't get these signs, it's easy for me to think that I won't be able to sleep.

I've never met someone personally that gets a hangover from ambien, though it seems common from what I've read. The kid I talked about above, in particular, likes to combine ambien witih alcohol because it PREVENTS a hangover from either drug for him.

So how much should SWIY take to have fun? it's impossible for any of us to say. SWIY have to see how it affects SWIY at (half) a normal dose first. Remember though that it may be inconsistent, and it may take a little while longer some nights, so be careful when deciding that SWIY "needs" another.

Hope that helps.

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	0 points, because tnx for your report but you forgot to swim.
	good post

[watzea]

Ambien is effective, but I do find the amnesia from it scary. SWIM felt really really depressed the next morning too. Cant imagine taking it recreationally, SWIM is afraid she would wake up naked and mowing the lawn or somethng.
YIKES!

[jacob x ross]

Ten mg had me thinking my bed was a boat in the pacific ocean in the 15th century.
Forty had me thinking I was the Keeble Elf.

[Psych0naut]

Nicaine is banned, so don't expect an answer from him

[Monoxide99]

swim used to enjoy ambien recreationally until she took 50mg+ and wound up on a staircase not being able to step off because the floor had divided into a gaping hole. swim would recomend taking around 20mg as it gave her pleasant drunk feeling.

[h3li0n]

Swim recently got prescription sleeping pills and it consists of 7.5 mg of Rhovane and 7.5mg of Zopiclone together in each pill. Swim is curious to as how much is recommended to take before experiencing the euphoric feeling tied with these pills?

[Jatelka]

Just to clarify: Rhovane IS Zopiclone. Each Rhovane pill contains 7.5mg Zopiclone. It is NOT Zopiclone plus something else

[h3li0n]

Originally Posted by Jatelka

Just to clarify: Rhovane IS Zopiclone. Each Rhovane pill contains 7.5mg Zopiclone. It is NOT Zopiclone plus something else

Oh ok... Swim feels stupid now lol. On the bottle it made it seem as if there were two different active ingredients.

[Rodermus]

I was fairly young when i was prescribed ambien for insomnia and i've no clue the mg. but, it was taking over a half hour to work so decided to go downstaris to waatch a little teevision. once i got downstairs i started dreaming while i was awake, hallucinating in other words, but they were dream like. my brother was down stairs at the time and saw how i was tripping and helped me lie down on the couch.
so thenext night i took another one and stayed in my room. as soon as the effects started i began twirling in my chair until i fell off. lying on the ground after that was fucking amazing: euphoria and dazzling colors.
i should have a new prescription for it soon and i can't wait.

[C Geezy]

Do em until you feel like you're want to go to sleep. Then just fight the sleep for a minute or so and you're high. It's weird though.

Like dreamy and shit. SWIM has done some weird things and woke up telling his girlfriend about his "dream", only to find out it was real... like when he found a pack of cigarettes in his pocket that he stole out of a car in his dream lol

C Geezy added 4 Minutes and 47 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by mykeamine

swim is darn scared to try this recreationally! would the swiy's who've tried it and experienced amnesia say that it was there unconscious yet same as conscious personalities taking hold? or was the amnesia'd swiy someone completely different than the real self?

No it's not like you lose control if that's what you're scared of. Basically it's like when it's happening, it's kinda sluggish and maybe it seems a lil slowed down or like you're zoned out. Like if you do something without focusing. But when you wake up the next morning you'll swear it never happened or it will be a vague dream.

But you don't lose control of yourself while you're high, you just have trouble remembering it. At least it's like that SWIM, and he used to be heavy into Ambien and other sleeping pills.

[Abakua81]

I take my 10mg before bed and get a nice little psychedelic experience. I just was prescribed them last month. I trip a lot and had never heard that ambien would give me anything like i did. Imagine my shock that first night when iI felt slightly illuminated. Let me know how your recreational dose goes. Ill stick with the Doc now since that payoff seems prett good.

[yaba]

Swims recreational dose of zolpidem is in the 50-60mg range and for sleeping 10- 20mg.

Swim knows that 50-60mg is a high dose please keep that in mined ....If someone can stay awake on them then it will have some recreational value.. (this is not advisable) but mixing it with alcohol increases its effects.....(swims friend was seeing alians )

[Pumpkin]

ok so SWIMs gota script for generic ambiens and tonite has went as follows...
Around 10:00 PM took one 10 mg and split in half. He ate one half, snorted the other...

...SWIM waited around til about 2:00 AM(SWIM was feeling buzzed just not sleepy). Then decided to take another ambien 10. The whole one was snorted this time...

...By 2:20 SWIM had eaten another 10 mg pill bringing his dosage up to 15mg oral and 15mg intranasal throughout the night. I still feel very much in control of myself as of now... The New Deal gets it pumpin! Elbows up dancin at 2:40 AM...

...It is now 3:00 AM and my friend is very disappointed with this substance. Also He took 500mg acetaminophen and 20mg diphenhydramine early on with the first pill. And somewhere between then and the second pill he took 10mg Dextromethorphan, 100mg guaifenesin, and 5mg phenylephrine in a dose of cold and cough syrup. I kno some of them are prone to potentiate other substances so thought i mite add it...
...Dam this turned into a trip report...oops o wel. Finally, a recreational dose for my friend (if he does it again) would be i guess >30mg. But SWIM ultimately thinks 40-50 would be needed for an actual trip. This is the first nite my friend took these and he didnt really feel much at all but a little lethargy, not sleepy, just physically tired...no good...please dont do what my friend did rite off the bat. He worked his way up, giving himself plenty of time for it to kick in before deciding it wasnt enough... SWIM gonna try to sleep now. peace folks...

Pumpkin added 9 Minutes and 22 Seconds later...

^*^typo in third paragraph. I meant i felt in control of myself watching my friend. he was dancin his ass off. know how yall are about SWIMMING so added this because after reading the above i felt it came out the wrong way. just in case. sry guys. peace

[Stan Mar5h]

Originally Posted by betsym

Swim's husband once took 2 Ambien (not sure what milligram but I think at least 20 mg each) and the night ended with him standing naked in the living room with several paramedics standing around trying to get him dressed to go to the hospital.Swim called the hospital thinking her husbandhad a stroke because he had gotten up to go to the bathroom and when he came back he fell right down on top ofher onher side of the bed instead of his side and would not get up. When he did get up, after the paramedics got there, he was acting like a madman, trying to pullSwim's nightgown off in front of all those people and babbling incoherently, as if he had been drinking heavily.He ended up not going to the hospital but fell dead asleep and they toldSwim to watch him, which she did. Needless to say, he never took any more Ambien. Apparently, there had been reports of people having strange hallucinations and weird goings-on with this stuff. Swim's husband initially had taken one and didn't feel sleepy so took another a little while later. By the time hegot ready for bedhe had begun to feel the first affects. He did not remember the incident with the paramedics the next day and did not believe it had happened until they confirmed it. He was mortified to have been walking around in front of people with no clothes on. Swim is just grateful the kids did not wake up and see their father like that! Swim would never take this sleeping pill after seeing what it did to him. Of course, he did take two but even so...

^
Ambien does not have a 20mg pill.

Anyway, forget swim, I took 10mgs once and got some head disassociation and mild euphoria. Nothing amazing, but better than none at all indeed. 20mg, some good visuals, high euphoria, but fell asleep within an hour. Had awesome dreams though.... I took 30mgs, and fell asleep well before I could experience anything really great. Woke up with a shit-ass hangover.

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self incrimination. 30mgs is not a prescribed amount