Dose - Ambien (Zolpidem) Recreational Dosage?

[GNCSUX]

SWIM took 20mg ambein and couldnt remember a damm thing in the morning ... SWIM had a bad hangover feeling in the morning

[Benzeneringz]

I think that Ambien (zolpidem) is not the drug to mess with in a situation where you need to keep yourself 'in line' due to mom, teacher etc. Ambien has a really steep dose-response curve and I've seen it affect different people different ways at different doses. There is a really fine line between a dose that'll be pleasantly sedating and a dose that'll be a disaster. Start out with 5 mgs if you can, and increase the dose by 5 mgs until you reach a nice spot. Do NOT exceed 30mgs in a single dose unless you are with a somewhat sober friend and in a safe enviroment because not even superman can act normal on 30mgs of Ambien.

[lurkerbot]

Howdy all, just thought I'd offer my bit on recreational use of Ambien.

Eh... Don't.

I've been prescribed Ambien for over six months now due to sleeping problems and that above is the opinion I've formed from my experience with it. My main reasoning for my opinion is Ambien's notorious side effect: Amnesia.

If I take Ambien and then attempt to stay awake doing something it will produce a dissasociative effect that makes complex mental tasks extremely difficult, sometimes impossible, but can also make other things engrossing and rather amusing. However, it's easy to lose yourself and not even realize what you're doing or why. In a way it's sort of a similar feel to some aspects of DXM I suppose, but DXM compounded with mental retardation or something... like a vacant mind with almost no activity rather than hyper stimulated perceptive/analytical and whatnot.

At 10-15mg I find that there is a very likely chance that as these effects move towards their peak I will black out. 20mg + is almost a guarantee that I'll black out. What goes on in that period between when my memory stops recording events and when I wake up in bed the next morning is anyone's guess.

Anyway, to sum it up, I don't really see much recreational use with Ambien. There's the possibility that you won't remember what occurred... or the even more likely possibility, it'll straight up knock your ass out. That is what it's supposed to do afterall.

-mahalo

[kemikal_nation]

SWIM refers to himself as a responsible druggie. Dont blow all your money on them, plan ahead when you do them, and pace yourself with the amount you take. Dont be (no offense above) an idiot and chug a buttload of zolpidem, or any rx'er. Start small, risk small.

Zolpidem is no different. I am rx'd 10mg generics (easy to peel, crush and blow). Ingesting them is a waste for anything but using them to go to sleep. Heres my preferred method and experiences on it.

Peel the coating off of 1/2 a pill. Crush and make 4 average sized lines. There should be enough for 4 small lines which should be done after roughly 30 mins of blowing the first 4. This method not only keeps SWIY in control of the effects but also helps to extend the period of the high. If after the 4 small lines one still feels comfortable with the effects, do the same with the other half of the pill roughly 30min later.

For those who've done/do mary jane, magic mushrooms, DXM, I would say the effects are a combination of all 3, with the addition of antero-grad amnesia(you probably wont remember much of what happened during your trip). Peripheral and ghost-image hallucinations should be expected. Balance will be off as well. Like MJ, one gets completely absorbed into whatever they choose to do and will probably be giddy and talkative. Like DXM, disassociation with the surroundings and ones own body occurs.

All in all, SWIM says the recreational value is quite...high. I've done zolpiclone and eszolpiclone and neither really get you nice and junked like zolpidem does. Again, crush and blow is the method thats worked best for SWIM and its highly controllable since one can pace the intake of the drug and the effects are even more rapid than empty-stomach ingestion. Rock on.

[MichaelArn99]

Originally Posted by kemikal_nation

SWIM refers to himself as a responsible druggie. Dont blow all your money on them, plan ahead when you do them, and pace yourself with the amount you take. Dont be (no offense above) an idiot and chug a buttload of zolpidem, or any rx'er. Start small, risk small.

Zolpidem is no different. I am rx'd 10mg generics (easy to peel, crush and blow). Ingesting them is a waste for anything but using them to go to sleep. Heres my preferred method and experiences on it.

Peel the coating off of 1/2 a pill. Crush and make 4 average sized lines. There should be enough for 4 small lines which should be done after roughly 30 mins of blowing the first 4. This method not only keeps SWIY in control of the effects but also helps to extend the period of the high. If after the 4 small lines one still feels comfortable with the effects, do the same with the other half of the pill roughly 30min later.

SWIM dissolved one 10mg under his tongue, and then blew another 10mg. SWIM is feeling ok I guess, but he's disappointed in the lack of these supposed hallucinations. Maybe the combination of dissolving and blowing was not a good idea? Or maybe SWIM just hasn't waited long enough?

[IHrtHalucingens]

I recently heard a bunch of callers on a local radio show calling in and telling stories of sleep walking while on ambien and ending up eating tons of food and waking up with crumbs all over them and food stuck to themselves, without remembering it. Many said they would wake up sitting in front of the refrigerator with the door propped open by their bodies and all kinds of food sitting out. This sounds hilarious to me.
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has anyone here experienced this? Supposedly its a very common thing but people lie all the time jsut to get on the radio, i trust people here more.

[poptart]

Originally Posted by IHrtHalucingens

I recently heard a bunch of callers on a local radio show calling in and telling stories of sleep walking while on ambien and ending up eating tons of food and waking up with crumbs all over them and food stuck to themselves, without remembering it. Many said they would wake up sitting in front of the refrigerator with the door propped open by their bodies and all kinds of food sitting out. This sounds hilarious to me.
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has anyone here experienced this? Supposedly its a very common thing but people lie all the time just to get on the radio, i trust people here more.

Swim says smash 3 10's at about a minute or more a piece. Just don't try to stay up to long. The take some dmt the size of a pea and ether do what you normal do .. slow... and never blow it out. Swim sometimes takes small piece of tin foil... heats up the middle real well. Let coo put the pea size piece inside and make a bubble around it with the ten foil. Stick an empty pen stem in the middle down about a 1/4 or a half. Wrap that tin foil tightly around the stem. Put a cap on the end of the stem. Take your lighter and start to heat up the bottom.. start seeing a little smoke come out start sucking slow and never let it our. Have fun!

[Djvr16]

My friend took some ambien, his mother is on ALL sorts of patches and pills. I would imagine the Ambien was at least 15mg. He wanted to EAT his sister....

[Jatelka]

@Lurkerbot: Please read the rules of drugs forum: They can be found here...

http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/ann...t.php?f=43&a=1

The one pertaining to self-incrimination is particularly relevent.

No-one on these forums takes drugs. You will however find many stories about SWIM (someone who isn't me) and his Monkeys/Rats/Guinea pigs.

[lurkerbot]

Out of curiosity, how is mention of legitimately taking one's legally prescribed medication as instructed by a licensed medical doctor self incriminating?

Sorry, not trying to be a jackass or anything, just thought that one was safe. Will take heed in the future.

-mahalo

[Jatelka]

@ Lurkerbot: Does SWIY's medical professional prescribe Ambien in doses of 20+mg? SWIJ would be surprised.

Using prescription drugs in excess of the prescribed dose is not something SWIJ would admit to on an internet forum, and in some parts of the world may be an offence. Therefore the referral to the self-incrimination rule is valid.

[lurkerbot]

Originally Posted by jatelka

@ Lurkerbot: Does SWIY's medical professional prescribe Ambien in doses of 20+mg? SWIJ would be surprised.

Using prescription drugs in excess of the prescribed dose is not something SWIJ would admit to on an internet forum, and in some parts of the world may be an offence. Therefore the referral to the self-incrimination rule is valid.

Ahh good point, I wasn't specific(or maybe too specific I guess, heh). Anyway, just for the record, not that it really matters at this point, but I wasn't taking the large doses without my Doctor's knowledge. The frequent hypomanic episodes I was experiencing at the time were keeping me up for days and for awhile more than 10mgs was necessary.

Anyway, enough of my medical history, I'll be more thoughtful with what kind of statements I make in the future.

[astenu]

SWIM tried various doses of ambien and never got a buzz or anything special from it even after forcing himself to stay awake.

[Nicaine]

SWIM gets a nice buzz on a low dose of ambien (i.e. 2.5mg), of course higher doses will cause sleep as that's what they're intended for. if you guys think "more is always better" you're barking up the wrong tree. Try 2.5 mg to 5mg MAX for a nice sedative/hypnotic effect similar to an opiate nod but without any strong euphoria or other side effects, other than some disinhibition and sweet peaceful relaxation. Very pleasant IMO, not a party drug though. Use during the day when you have a couple/three hours to space out on the couch or in bed, possibly to drift pleasantly to sleep. Or try combining a low dose of ambien with some kratom.

SWIM is on around 25-30mg Zolpidem (taken rectally). Disinhibition & sweet peaceful relaxation + no party drug, as described in his last post (made in June, when he was still an Ambien n00b). He had the right idea even then, but never suspected how much further Ambien could take a person down the road of pleasant highs, particularly if stimulant withdrawal symptoms are involved and one wishes to feel better.

P.S. *forget* combining ambien with kratom, horrendous combination if there ever was one.

[upperdecker]

Originally Posted by Nicaine

SWIM is on around 25-30mg Zolpidem (taken rectally). Disinhibition & sweet peaceful relaxation + no party drug, as described in his last post (made in June, when he was still an Ambien n00b). He had the right idea even then, but never suspected how much further Ambien could take a person down the road of pleasant highs, particularly if stimulant withdrawal symptoms are involved and one wishes to feel better.

P.S. *forget* combining ambien with kratom, horrendous combination if there ever was one.

How, and why????

[wojsmack]

What's the first time reccomended ambien recreational dose. Swim was perscribed ambien 5 mg and would like to try to get a buzz off some. Thank you all.

[jesusfreak666er]

swim recomends taking 10mg then waiting maybe 20min.... see how swim feels take 10mg as needed.... personally swim can take 40-50mg and not fall alseep and have a pretty good time, however swim knows other swimmers that go straight to bed after a 10mg.

If swim is willing to put up with the taste swim recomends grinding the powder up and putting it under ur tongue for quicker effects that way swiy might be able to gauge wat his final dose might have to be without waiting 20 min or so waiting for effects.

Good luck and have a fun time

[Psych0naut]

SWIM recommends to take 10mg sublingually first and then take another 10mg 15-20 minutes later and titrate his dose up.
SWIM also recommends not to grind the pills up, but instead put the whole pill under his tongue and let it slowly melt away.
Keeping a mouthfull of saliva and zolpidem powder is very nasty and it doesn't work as effective as letting the pill melt under SWIY's tongue.

[DrMuffy]

Yes, many people react differently with zopidem (Ambien). If SWIY is looking to trip and have more of a delieriant trip (which he probably wont really even remember), then 20+mg should work. But if SWIY wants to relax and have mild effects, 10mg on an empty stomach should do the trick. Zopidem also has some muscle relaxant properties, and tends to cause amnesia in higher doses.

[yamman13]

So, swim has head that this has pyschoactive properties, beyond just being a sleeping pill. the problem is, on the two ocasions hes tried it, he didnt fall alseep instantly, didnt get any interesting affects, and just slept for days afterwards. any advice on how to make the dam pills work properly?

edit: Swim weights roughly 80 kilos.

[Lehendakari]

Those effects swiy is looking for are rare and only happen to a number of individuals and it's not dose dependant. People who get trippy effects get them at the normal recomended dose, increasing the dose to get those effects is a dangerous game.

Sleeping for days afterwards is also rare. How much did swiy took?

My baboon only gets (sometimes) some mild visual distorsions and a relaxed state of mind.

[sambo82]

hi

swim was prescribed zolpidem for over two years and would on occasion abuse them, swim would find that if he took 3-4 10mg tabs then he would get all the trippy symptoms you talk about.

but if swim took more than 4 10mg tabs he would be violenty sick.

Zolpidem is a fucked up sleeping pill do some research bout it, zolpidem has even been used in medical trial to WAKE people from comas????? I could never really understand that a sleeping pill waking people up.

Neway swim would like to add that swim was addicted to benzo's for a long time and has a very high tolerance so would not recommend using the doses i hae said as every1's tolerance is different.

[hoodabudda]

swims advice is dont pop it for recreational use....its just not fun like that. snorting is the best way to get the trippy effects but snorting pills probaby isnt good for ur nose and it burns!! so swim just sucks off the coating and lets it dissolve under his tounge, and its almost as good.. use half your oral dose for this...it really gets up in ur head lol. swim also finds it to be very stimulating when snorted/UT almost like alcohol but way trippier.

[Jatelka]

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[penta]

When swim first tried ambien, 10mg gave swim stronger double vision than he had ever had before. Swim also had a hard time walking for a while. Even though the 10mg of ambien was very powerful, it only seemed to last 1.5 hours, and whenever swim tried ambien again (even up to 30mg), swim could never get the same effects that he had got the first time. Maybe ambien is a one-time only drug, but swim has heard of people doing it many times and enjoying it a lot.