Opinions - Sharing the magic..

[Abuse]

okay so swim is a frequent user of Diphenhydramine and usually doses around 1000mg per trip. long story short a couple of swims female wannabe "druggie" friends want to try Dip. swims not really sure what will be safe for them considering they've tried Dex with swim and each dosed about 500mg. swim was thinking of giving em 600mg apiece. swim wants them to feel the power that Diphenhydramine can have but swim dont wanna fuck em up.

swiys?

[Nemba]

Swiy should make very sure that those swiys are not allergic first, and even then, suggested doses range from 150mg to 1g, so swim thinks maybe starting with 300mg in case a swiy is very sensitive is a good idea. Nobody ever got hurt by taking less, better to build swiys way up individually because everyone is different.

[Abuse]

[QUOTE=Nemba;616986]Swiy should make very sure that those swiys are not allergic first, and even then, suggested doses range from 150mg to 1g, so swim thinks maybe starting with 300mg in case a swiy is very sensitive is a good idea. Nobody ever got hurt by taking less, better to build swiys way up individually because everyone is different.[/QUOTE

swim only suggests such a high dose because the first time he tried to trip on diphenhydramine he took 400mg and felt the all too familiar "coming-up" sensation and he was just left there...wanting more. i want to give them a true feeling of what Diphenhydramine can do. it seems way too many people aren't willing to just sit back and let the drug Consume them.

[Nemba]

Originally Posted by Abuse

swim only suggests such a high dose because the first time he tried to trip on diphenhydramine he took 400mg and felt the all too familiar "coming-up" sensation and he was just left there...wanting more. i want to give them a true feeling of what Diphenhydramine can do. it seems way too many people aren't willing to just sit back and let the drug Consume them.

While this may be true for swiy you have no way of telling beforehand if 400mg does for them what 700 does for swiy, even if it is not likely it is a good idea to make sure.

[cra$h]

just like any other drug, start small. giving them the "full" experience for their first time is a dick move. a bug-out is pretty likely

[12oz-mouse]

Originally Posted by cra$h

just like any other drug, start small. giving them the "full" experience for their first time is a dick move. a bug-out is pretty likely

If his lady friends are less then 150lbs they WILL freak out. If you are planing to all be tripping hard at the same time that is a very stupid idea, advice would be give them the 600mg and make sure they don't put thier lives in danger and tell them not to lay down or get comfortable. It probably would be wise to back off because who knows what they are allergic too.

[RaverHippie]

It's never been an urge to be around people while under the influence of diphenhydramine. It's such a personal and almost masochistic trip that being in a weird vulnerable state could spell out distaster. For the experienced and even more for the inexperienced. Have them take it on their own with a sitter FIRST and then see what they say about trying it in a group. They don't know what they are getting into and it could easily be a potentially awful thing given the ratio of haters to enjoyers for diphenhydramine.

This really sounds like a bad idea especially since their interest in diphenhydramine amounts to curiosity at this point since SWIY enjoys it so much.

[cra$h]

hallucinating + groups = annoying.
Doens't matter what drug. too many people and it pisses swim off. Especially diphen.

[DPHer]

Swim's introduced many people to a variety of substances over the years. He likes to sit them down, no more than a 2 or 3 person group, and explain, perhaps as a bowl of weed is shared, what to expect and what shall happen as they come up to the peak. He then selects a dose he attempts to tailor to the person's unique characteristics. He uses several criteria's weight to point towards using Less or More. This includes:

- Body weight and gender
- Familiarizing himself with what drugs the person's taken before and their experiences
- Person's level of experience with this type of drug (for dph, swim'd consider things like mushrooms, lsd, and to a lesser extent dxm to contribute to the likelyhood of a higher dose being acceptable as a first time)
- Person's mood and control of his/her mind
- Any reactions swim's personally seen the person have. Swim has found people who can barely handle marijuana.

All those factors should go into dose selection, and only experienced psychoactive users would ever get a dose above 400mg dph for their first time when swim's designated the trip master for the night. 200-300mg DPH HCl is a great first dose for a resounding majority of the factors above. 150mg should be an absolute minimum for all but the tiniest and most inexperienced of females, due to the risk they won't feel it, which leads to either a poor experience or getting in over their head when they decide to take what they believe to be a small addition of another 150mg an hour in. Do not mix alcohol with DPH... if alcohol is already present, the dose should be substantially lowered, or (preferable) saved for another night altogether.

Swim finds the introduction and preparation he likes to do are strong foundations to others' enjoyment and ability to handle the trip. Swim believes not doing all of these things, particularly with dph, will result in a high likelyhood of either bad trips or "once but never again" type reactions.

One more word of note: there is a type of person not used to drugs in pill form who will be hesitant to take the dose swiy suggests. Swiy should appropriately recommend a slightly higher dose to a person suspected of such. Swiy should deliver the dose in sets of pills so that should the person not pull the "that's enough" halfway through dosing, swiy can stop when the desired level is reached. It foreshadows a bad trip when a person has to be lectured or convinced to take a dose once the person's refusing half of it. The person often won't understand that they will feel threshold or virtually no effect if they don't finish the dose.

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The attention to detail shown in this procedure make me sigh a bit easier knowing that people can take things so serious...

[doppey]

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doppey added 5 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

Theres always time to play with a new substance, rushing things is just childish and downright dangerous. Tell them to take 100mg one day just to see how it goes. (Making sure someones there.) Or even to take it before the larger dose and just give it time to kick in. After that bump it up TO no more than 300mg, preferably 200mg and see how they tolerate the effects. Seems to be one of those substances that has a tendency to cause very different subjective effects for diferent individuals. If SWIY ignore the 100mg thing at least dont exceed 300mg the first time. Apparently thats where it starts to work noticably as a deleriant for alot of people.

"Hypersensitivity side effects of diphenhydramine have included rash, pruritus, and eczema. Photosensitivity reactions have also been reported."

The first time SWIM took it he turned bright red, started sweating and got dizzy off of only 100mg. He took it in lower doses a few more times and also higher with no ill effects. Had he taken more that first time though he wonders if those symptoms would have been worse.

Anyway good luck and no offence meant by the childish comment, just a way of putting it. =)

Peace,
J