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Oral amphetamines and benzodiazapines: super sober?
Swim and his buddy used to make a combination of different amphetamine and benzodiazapine pills. The pills used were either alprazolam or clonazepam in 1-4mg doses and 10-50mg doses of adderal, or more often dextroamphetamine. These are relatively low doses of these substances in swim's opinion, particularly to be used concurrently. That is, if the purpose of taking them is just to get as absolutely fucked up as is safely possible with them.
However, the purpose of taking these sort of doses in combination was to achieve a state they refered to at the time as "super sober". This is what he would call a base state or base combination, that is, a priming buzz, something to raise the buzz baseline before going out for the night to drink or hang out and smoke weed or whatever other 'extracuricular activities' the night might entail. What was accomplished by doing this was an ability to more or less function, seem normal (not like if he was on mdma or something), and be able to party like crazy all night, while feeling positively amazing the entire time.
This was a standard practice before going out to party for awhile, and through swim and his friends experience trying different combinations of perscription stimulants and downers of all kinds, he has narrowed down the preferred combinations to the ones mentioned above. This is based on price, availability, effect, hangover, and duration. Here are some of his other observations:
-He felt that the effect he was going for worked better with either time-release preparations of the amphetamines, or spacing out doses after the initial loading dose. Taking a single large dose didn't lend itself to maintaining a constant baseline.
-Hypnotic benzodiazapines such as triazolam didn't work so well for similar reasons. He just got too fucked up to not have it be blatantly obvious to those around him. They also often produced a signifigant hangover effect when taken in sufficient doses, like for example, flurazepam.
-Long duration downers, such as phenobarbital, which takes 12 hours to reach peak blood levels, proved to be unsuited for producing the desired effect, unless perhaps if taken upon waking with a time-release amphetamine in anticipation of a day of partying.
-Swim preferred anxiolytic benzodiazapines because they were well suited to go out and be social on. They produced the desired CNS depression without getting him too wasted to function properly. Diazepam, alprazolam, lorazepam, and clonazepam were his preferred choices.
Does anyone else know anyone who knows someone who has any experiences in using combinations of any kind to produce a similar 'elevated baseline' effect?
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