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LSD & Buddhism
Swim is a Buddhist, he has also taken LSD once and loved every second, not only on a sensory level but in the way it altered his perception outside of the drug's command as well as expanding his mind significantly, so much so that he decided to take up Buddhism.
Swim wonders though, if it is strictly prohibited by the laws of Buddhism. He knows to become intoxicated is strictly prohibited but LSD does not intoxicate in any way swim could fathom. Swim was thinking about the levels of Jhana (different levels of perception and mind state achieved with meditation) and he couldn't help but liken his LSD experience to a higher Jhana state, a oneness with everything around him and a diminshing interest in trivial sensory pleasures like food and drink, however doesn't LSD count as a sensory pleasure in at least some ways? It seems silly to say but swim could count an LSD experience as a way of cheating into a higher level of Jhana, without concentrative meditation, but for swim the way of Buddhism itself would never prohibit such a thing that would allow people to enter Jhana, even if it was a way that required less mental effort. On the flipside though swim worked damned hard in his session, as all swiys know an LSD experience doesn't neccessarily come to you, you make your own session. Swim thinks Buddhism is very similar to an LSD experience, you make your own way to enlightenment, a search for Nirvana. Much like a swiy would search for answers or the help to find his own answers within the trip. Either way even if Buddhism did prohibit LSD swim would not accept this into his lifestyle. He went to Buddhism in the first place as it is not, in his eyes, something to control you where a higher power sees your path as wrong, but a way to find your own path to enlightenment and awakening. No path is wrong in swim's eyes if it is right for you. The buddha said not to incorporate things into your life just because they have been told to you from authority, and so regardless of its prohibition or non prohibition swim sees LSD as a valuable asset in his search for awakening that he would be a fool to disregard. |
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This thread made me recall a text by Vanja Palmers I once read, perhaps it can be of value to SWIY. Palmers is a zen priest among other things.
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Wow that was brilliant, thanks very much for posting it. That actually made swim feel like psychadelics certainly have a place within Buddhism, if not for the meditative state they bring about then certainly for the fact that mind expansion is a definite use, and for swim personally they are a definite way forwards on his path. Buddhism is about questioning yourself after all, and LSD provided many questions and even helped Swim find his path to Buddhism in the first place.
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SWIM:
Definitely agree with all the points made so far. For me, Zen is like LSD without the serotonin hangover. I turned to Zen after turning on and it amazed me how much the teachings of Zen align with what is encountered on LSD. I studied Buddhism quite a bit at university, specifically Zen, and it really helped me a lot with dealing with some of the more difficult aspects of the LSD experience that I had encountered. Growing up in the bible belt isn't the best primer for LSD use, and unfortunately some of the more horrific teachings of the Christian religion are just hardwired into a lot of people in America who were taught Christian ideas about sin and such as children. Great post. Great thoughts. I try to stay away from the metaphysical discussions but I really enjoyed this one and I just got to recommend some Zen and General Buddhism to anyone looking for a spiritual context for the LSD experience. Edit: Also, as to the intoxicating effects as they relate to the principles of Buddhism, I believe that it is widely considered "okay" to intoxicate after enlightenment. That's probably not Orthodox, but Buddhism is hardly a strict code. I believe also that the Buddha knew that he was speaking to people who were generally poor and unlearned, and such people would be greatly hindered in their path if they were without their wits. Secondly, a narcotic is defined in Buddhism as any substance which causes the wits to dim. Narcotics, basically. Even with narcotics, though, and this is from the mouth of my professor, there are many monks who do drink wine and smoke and such, and they do this by circumventing the law by "reading into the text what one wishes to read into the text." Obviously this would be frowned upon in the Orthodox. Thirdly, and most importantly, we know that the Aryans (Vedic) races used mushrooms (Fly Agarics) and hashish and *did not* consider them "intoxicants" but "spiritual tools" put on earth by the gods. Since this race originated in the area right next to where Buddhism sprouted, 700 or so years earlier than Buddhism, it would be pretty logical to assume that the peoples in this region shared the secret of the mushrooms with the surrounding countries. The Aryans ruled this part of Asia for centuries and influenced its ideas and religious concepts immensely. And finally, to sum up this all too lengthy edit, it's worth noting that throughout history in Asian cultures the mushroom has been known as "the lotus of the Buddha." Make of that what you will. There are many different views on this, but as someone who has studied history quiet lengthily I can tell you that oral tradition is a fairly sacred thing, especially in the East. Last edited by Songcycle67; 25-06-2009 at 04:34. |
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Sidney Cohen reports that LSD was given to two Zen Buddhist monks to see how it compared to the spiritual state of enlightenment. He reported that both monks became so uncomfortable that "Termination with chlorpromazine became necessary."
The fundamental tenants of Buddhism are similar to those of other religions: The desires and passions of an instinctual nature are 'base' or 'low' and represent evil within us. To give in to 'temptation' is to commit an evil act and is to step away from 'enlightenment' and towards corruption of the soul. After many years of 'conditioning' these 'evil desires'; chaos, insanity, hatred, sexuality, which incidentally contain just as much potential for spirituality, spiritual living, and ultimately human living as joy, euphoria and peace (Love, of course, is unbiquitous to both categories... assuming they are binary opposites which is unlikely); these, 'evil desires' can be slowly eroded away until all trace of humanity is annihilated. This heinous abomination then solemnly baptizes itself 'enlightened'. It does not surprise me that these monks became so uncomfortable. The LSD experience is often characterized by the breaking down of personal mental tools by which certain emotions or thoughts are subdued and I suspect that the extrication of pure humanness was what caused their discomfort. |
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Swivy has always seen LSD as a sort of "short cut" to the type of mind-expansion that meditation brings. While Swiv doesn't really know if it violates (for lack of a better word) any of the Buddhist precepts, she does personally believe that there is nothing "wrong" with taking LSD as a means to acheive a state as swiy described. If Swiv were to use acid in order to just feel high and not to gain any insight from it, she would say this is a disrespectful and selfish misuse of the drug, not that she'd ever like someone else less or judge someone harshly for doing so. To each their own, she also believes. Swivy thinks that LSD is really the closest many of the human race will come to an enlightened state, even if it is fleeting. She also thinks that it can be a fantastic tool for showing people what their goal of enlightenment feels like, giving them a sort of compass to follow on their road to enlightenment.
While it may not be the "real thing", Swiv does believe it can seriously aid a seeker of enlightenment by placing them onto a path to their ultimate destination. And really, how can anyone not call it real if they got to that place, no matter the instruments used and how temporarily they reached their destination? Did one experience it or not? If yes, then how is it not "real" by some measure? Anyhow, Swiv has rambled on to long . She was very interested in your post and felt she'd like to share her point of view on the subject. Namaste.
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There's a really great book that was written by Thomas Jefferson in which he extracted all the hell and heaven talk in the Gospels (which are really just metaphors for suffering and enlightenment, respectively) and only took the life lessons and moral codes. It's very very well done. Jefferson himself was a lifelong scholar of religion and history, and, incidentally, a fervent agnostic. When you read the moral teachings and the life lessons of Christ without all the supernatural talk (which no one in the 21st century could ever accurately understand) it reads very much like the teachings of Buddhism boiled down into a few short books. I'm a big fan of the moral teachings of Christ, and I believe he was very much enlightened in the Buddhist sense of the word. Unfortunately the Western mind can't grasp a lot of the concepts that were floating around in the near East in the 1st century (and they don't know their history) and it becomes, yeah...distorted. It is very sad that because of a lot of misinterpretation and hoodoo many people discard Jesus as one of the major philosophers of the ancient period. Incidentally, the book by Thomas Jefferson is called The Life And Moral Teachings of Jesus Christ for anyone who's interested. It's a great read! |
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This may be of interest. Also see the list of references at the end.
---- Psychoactive Plants in Tantric Buddhism Cannabis and Datura Use in Indo-Tibetan Esoteric Buddhism by R. C. Parker and Lux v1.0 - June 2008 Originally published in Erowid Extracts Citation: Parker RC, Lux. "Psychoactive Plants in Tantric Buddhism; Cannabis and Datura Use in Indo-Tibetan Esoteric Buddhism". Erowid Extracts. Jun 2008;14:6-11. The authors wish to thank Professor David B. Gray and Professor Geoffrey Samuel for their encouragement and many helpful suggestions. Cakrasamvara Since the beginning of modern discourse about psychedelics in American intellectual culture, seminal authors have noted parallels between psychedelic experiences and contemplative practices of Asia. In his 1954 essay The Doors of Perception, Aldous Huxley likened his experience of mescaline to the insights precipitated by yoga and meditation. Author R. Gordon Wasson went further, arguing that some spiritual disciplines of India may be intended to evoke an experience that was originally entheogenic in nature.1 By the late 1960s, counterculture rhetoric strongly associated psychedelics and Eastern mysticism. Alan Watts tackled the topic in his 1962 book The Joyous Cosmology; Timothy Leary, Ram Dass, and Ralph Metzner later wrote a guide to psychedelic experiences based on the fourteenth-century tantric manual Bardo Thödol, the so-called Tibetan Book of the Dead.2 Psychedelic experience and Eastern meditation have become so intertwined in Western culture that their roots are difficult to disentangle. Fortunately, in recent years several thoughtful book chapters and articles have appeared examining the complex relationship between the explosion of psychedelic counterculture and the con*temporaneous popularization of Buddhism in the United States in the 1950s and 1960s.3 Unfortunately, the history of psychoactive plant use by Buddhists in Asia has not been addressed with comparable rigor. Although interesting speculative work has been written on the subject,4,5 a focused analysis of explicit textual evidence has not been published. Over the last few decades, university religious studies departments have produced translations of Buddhist tantric texts of unprecedented quality, providing ample material for an examination of psychoactive plant use by Buddhists in Asia. This article considers some of the evidence with respect to tantric Buddhism in India and Tibet, focusing on the use of cannabis and datura. Tantric Buddhism The term "tantra" refers to a great many religious practices and beliefs. It is so difficult to define, that some religious historians argue the word has little meaning other than to mark extreme or taboo practices.6 The Sanskrit word and its Tibetan equivalent (rgyud) refer to the texts that form the scriptural basis for the religious movement, and also mean "continuum" or "lineage". Despite the difficulty in pinning down the term, different tantric lineages generally share some characteristics. Practices and scriptures are often secret, with instructions given in private by teachers to students with whom they have consecrated a formal guru/disciple relationship. Many tantric practices must be authorized by empowerment ceremonies, which sometimes last for days or weeks and may carry lifelong practice commitments as a condition of receiving them. Most tantric scriptures are practice-oriented texts associated with specific deities. Tantric meditation and ritual often involve complex visualizations of these deities--so much so that the Tibetan polymath Tsong Khapa (1357-1419) proposed "deity yoga" as the defining characteristic of tantra.7 Many tantric yogas are intended to elicit extraordinary states of consciousness, including sexual yoga with real or visualized partners and energy yogas that manipulate body heat, respiration, or dreaming. The concept of tantra as a sex-positive religion devoted to embracing the material world is a modern construction that bears little resemblance to the historical tantric practices and beliefs of Asia.8 Tantra began to take shape as a major religious movement in India between the sixth and ninth centuries CE.9,10 Many of the extant tantric texts were written in these years and the movement reached a peak that lasted several centuries. Most tantras were composed in Sanskrit in India and Central Asia, and many were eventually exported to China and Tibet. During 950-1200 CE, Tibet underwent a period of upheaval followed by a "renaissance", in which the old Tibetan empire collapsed and reorganized into a society ruled by a complex network of powerful clans and religious institutions.11 During this renaissance, enormous resources and labor were devoted to painstakingly translating Buddhist scriptures from Sanskrit into Tibetan. The Tibetan written language had been developed during the seventh century by a committee of religious scholars specifically for the purpose of translating scriptures from Sanskrit.12 Many Buddhist tantras that are lost in their original Sanskrit forms still exist in the Tibetan scriptural canon. Why Look to Tantra? There are several reasons to look to tantra for psychoactive substance use in pre-modern Buddhist Asia. The first and most important is that non-tantric monastic Buddhism is far less tolerant of violations of scriptural precepts than tantric Buddhism. Buddha's injunction against consuming intoxicants precludes the open use of psychoactive substances by members of the Buddhist monastic establishment. In contrast, tantric Buddhism can allow for, and even applaud, shocking transgressions as a sign that the yogi has transcended ordinary patterns of valuation and behavior. While non-tantric Buddhist practice was overwhelmingly the purview of ordained monks and nuns in medieval India, practitioner of tantra was often a layperson. A mainstay of tantric literature is the siddha, a sorcerer-like yogi who achieves extraordinary powers such as flight or psychic abilities through religious practice. Unlike the introverted monk quietly seeking liberation behind monastery walls, the siddha expresses spiritual attainment in the world. In their biographies, tantric siddhas often commit outrageous acts of apparently reckless violence, consumption of intoxicants, or sexual conduct.13 In one famous legend, the guru Hāḑipā of the Nāth siddha lineage is said to have broken a five-year fast by consuming enormous quantities of hemp, Strychnos nux-vomica (Kucila, the "strychnine tree"), and datura.14 In addition to accommodating the use of psychoactives, tantric texts sometimes include encyclopedic instructions for the use of medicinal plants. Ayurvedic medicine and yoga are two important antecedents to tantra,9 and those disciplines provide a template for simultaneously developing both body and mind in the service of liberation.15 This holistic approach to spiritual practice is preserved in several important Buddhist tantras in which physical, mental, and spiritual ailments form a single complex of related concerns that must be treated in tandem. This approach is an easy rhetorical fit with pre-tantric Buddhist scriptures, which sometimes describe Buddha as a doctor and suffering as an illness.16 Consequently, some Buddhist tantras include compendious information about medicinal plants, including cannabis and datura. Datura in Buddhist Tantra Both Datura stramonium and Datura metel are well-documented in India and Tibet. In Sanskrit datura is known as dhattūra, while in Tibetan the plant is da dhu ra or thang phrom. Datura's effects were described in several ayurvedic materia medica. It is mentioned in the Kāmasūtra (ca. 4th-6th century CE), which says: "If food be mixed with the fruit of the thorn apple (dathura) it causes intoxication".17 It also advises a man to anoint his penis with honey infused with datura and long peppers (pippali = Piper lungum) before sexual intercourse to make his partner "subject to his will".17 Datura is associated with several Hindu and Buddhist deities. Vāmana Purā.na, a pre-modern devotional text dedicated to Vishnu (date unknown), tells that datura sprouted from the chest of the god Śiva.18 Its flowers are sometimes used as ceremonial offerings--a practice that continues to this day in Nepal.18 Wrathful deities in tantric Buddhism are said to be fond of datura,19 which is sometimes used as a ritual offering to placate these deities.19 References to datura in the pre-eleventh century Vajramahabhairava Tantra have been used to argue on behalf of an Old World origin of Datura metel.20 The psychoactive effects of datura have long been recognized in Tibet. The religious author Sachen Kunga Nyingpo (1092-1158) used the effects of datura to illustrate how our senses can be distorted, writing: "When datura [...] is eaten, appearances manifest as yellow."21 The third Dodrup Chen Rinpoche (1865-1926), a Tibetan scholar-yogi, compares a cryptic "nectar rendering liberation" to the power of datura. He writes, "[I]f one takes the nectar by itself the [subtle body] will receive blessings spontaneously and excellent accomplishments will be achieved, like being intoxicated by alcohol [...] and being deluded with visions by Datura or thorn apple[...]".22 Datura intoxication may have been widespread in siddha culture. In Indian Esoteric Buddhism, Ronald M. Davidson observes: Quote:
The Guhyasamāja Tantra (ca. 8th century CE) is generally considered one of the earliest extant Buddhist tantras.6 This key scripture describes the basic architecture of tantric practice and is venerated by several schools of Tibetan Buddhism--particularly the Gelukpas, who take it as the central tantra.23 In the Guhyasamāja Tantra, Buddha Vajradhara gives instructions for undertaking the destruction of evil-doers: [M]aking an image of the enemy with the excrement and urine of those who follow the great Dharma, wrathfully burn it in a fire of thorn-wood, and even the Buddha will certainly perish. [...] So he said black mustard-seeds, salt, oil, poison, and thorn-apple [datura], these are taught as the supreme destroyers of all the Buddhas.24 Similarly, the Cakrasamvara Tantra (ca. late 8th century CE) is highly venerated in Tibet to this day. It states: "Should the well-equipoised one immolate mustard oil with crows' wings and [the victim's name] in a datura fire, he will immediately be expelled or killed."25 The Cakrasamvara Tantra also tells that a tāntrika can drive an enemy insane using magical implements, including a charnel ground cloth bound around the "five intoxicants". The Tibetan commentator Budön Rinchen Drup explains that "five intoxicants" refers to the root, stem, leaves, flower, and fruit of the datura plant25--all of which contain psychoactive alkaloids.18 In another reference to datura, the tantra claims that immolating "one hundred and eight golden fruits" (kanakaphala, explicated as "datura fruit" by the commentator Jayabhadra) will allow one to become insubstantial.25 The Vajramahabhairava Tantra (ca. 10th century CE) contains instructions for killing an enemy saying that the practitioner should perform a rite: "naked, with disheveled hair and facing south, draw the sixteen-section wheel of Vajramahabhairava [...] on a shroud in venom, blood, salt, black mustard, nimba (Azadirachta indica) and Datura juice using a pen made from a raven feather or from human bone."20 This tantra also provides instructions for using the ash of datura wood to magically break a relationship between a man and woman, or to drive people away.20 Datura fruit may be used in magical rituals to drive an enemy insane: Quote:
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Datura was sometimes included in ritual fire offerings that may have produced psychoactive smoke. A key eleventh century commentary on the Kālachakra Tantra by Pu.n.darīka describes: "When the oblation is offered in the octagonal pot, on a fire made with arka faggots, with thorn-apples [datura] and kusumadyas offered into the fire, it accomplishes stupefactions [of the enemy] [...]".26 Arka has been identified as milkweed and kusumadyas as Assyrian plum. The Mahākāla Tantra (ca. 8th-12th century CE) contains extensive materia medica and magical instructions. In chapter twelve, "On Ointments", it instructs practitioners to harvest datura and two other plants, and mix them with the bile of a black cat and honey. This compound "becomes an ointment for the eyes. After applying it one revolves around and around like a bee."16 In a similar vein, tantra historian Ronald Davidson notes that the use of datura in tantric rituals "may have something to do with the siddha fascination with flying or perhaps inform[s] their iconography, for a common report from the use of datura is the sensation of aerial transport or the feeling of being half-man and half-animal."10 The Mahākāla Tantra also offers instructions to find lost treasure by creating a magical pill that includes datura: Cannabis Leaf After having ground the following medicines one should make pills: the seed grain of khoḑyā, the seed of sesbania, the juice of the leaf of the waved-leaf fig tree, the juice of Villarsia cristata, the powder of the regurgitation of cow, the juice of Śiva's intoxicant [= datura], the juice of the root of the wormseed and onion leaf together with the bile of a snake and honey which has been kept under the ground. When two days [have] gone by, at a cool time (of the day) one should anoint (the eyes) and one will see a hole in the ground.16 The fourth chapter of K.r.s.na-yāmari (ca. 10th century) gives instructions for a wrathful ritual visualization in which the yogi makes "the index finger red with the resins from the thorn-apple leaves and also the seeds of [datura]".26 Cannabis in Buddhist Tantra Like datura, cannabis has a long history in Asia. Scholars have argued that cannabis may have been first cultivated in China in Neolithic times27 and the plant has been well-known throughout India, Nepal, and Tibet for millennia. Cannabis is referred to in the Vedas as "source of happiness" and "liberator".27 Perhaps the earliest-known literary reference to cannabis appears in the Hindu scripture Satapatha Brahmana (ca. 800 BCE).28 Cannabis also appears in an early medicinal work, the Sushruta Samhita (written sometime between 400 BCE and 600 CE) as an antiphlegmatic.27 In early works of Ayurveda, cannabis is said to "increase gastric fire", i.e., digestion and appetite.27 Va.ngasena's Compendium of the Essence of Medicine, an eleventh-century Bengali medicinal text, describes cannabis (bhanga) as "a drug like opium" and prescribes it as a medicine to enhance longevity.29 Like datura, cannabis has been prominently associated with the Hindu god Śiva since ancient times. Cannabis plays an important role in some Hindu tantra lineages, where it may have been used during tantric rites to help adepts overcome their aversions to taboo-breaking religious practices.29,30 In the Mahāyāna tradition, Buddha is said to have subsisted for six years of ascetic practice on nothing but hemp seeds.31 Cannabis Drawing Tantra scholar David Gordon White notes that cannabis use was a widespread part of the influential Nāth siddha lineage.9 Additionally, he notes that in the Buddhist Tārā Tantra, cannabis is "essential to ecstasy".9 In that tantra, Buddha says that drinking wine without having consumed cannabis "cannot produce real ecstasy".32 In this context "ecstasy" is a technical term describing the experience of bliss caused by particular yogic achievements, and an important step in becoming enlightened. Cannabis serves a magico-medic*inal function in several major tantras. Including its datura references described above, much of the Mahākāla Tantra concerns the search for the "perfect medicine", a psycho-spiritual elixir that will transform the body and mind in the service of liberation.16 This lineage extols the use of medicinal herbs to achieve "attainments" or "powers". Forty-two of the Mahākāla Tantra's fifty chapters include formulas for using medicinal plants, and many of these plants are psychoactive. A partial list includes plants that have been identified as Acorus calamus, Areca catechu, Artemisia spp., Cannabis sativa, Cinnamomum camphora, Datura metel, Myristica fragrans, Nelumbo nucifera, Peganum harmala, and Valeriana wallichii. The plants are employed to attain health, wealth, wisdom, and supernatural powers such as seeing underground and flying. These formulas include cannabis in several different forms, including leaves, resin, and other plant material.16 Given that these cannabis products are included in the "perfect medicine" formulas of the Mahākāla Tantra, cannabis may perhaps be considered a significant part of this tantric lineage. The Cakrasamvara Tantra (described in the datura section above) also emphasizes the magico-medical role of cannabis, stating that a mixture of compounds including cannabis will help one "become a yogin who does what he pleases and stays anywhere whatsoever."25 The translator notes that all the plants in this recipe are edible, and this formula may therefore refer to the preparation of material for oral consumption, possibly as "siddhi-pills". Cannabis & Sexual Tantra Anthropologist Christian Rätsch has argued that cannabis is used in tantric sexual yoga, pointing out centuries of belief about its sexual effects in Asia.27,28 However, because Rätsch focuses on the Hindu/Buddhist syncretic tantric culture of Nepal, relying on Hindu sources for textual support,36 the relevance of his findings to historical Buddhist tantra is unclear. Discussion While ample textual evidence exists to establish that cannabis and datura have appeared in some Buddhist tantras, the relative importance placed on psychoactive plants in Buddhism remains an open question. In his discussion of psychoactive plants in the Mahākāla Tantra, William George Stablein argues that the use of psychoactive plants in Buddhism may constitute an entheogenic tradition, writing: Quote:
In the case of datura, many of the references do not clearly direct the yogi to ingest the plant material. For example, the Guhyasamāja Tantra, the Cakrasamvara Tantra, and the Vimalaprabhā tell that datura is to be burned. While it is possible that the smoke from such a fire would be psychoactive if inhaled, it may not have been part of the ritual to inhale the smoke. Ronald Davidson claims that the smoke of datura fire offerings was indeed psychoactive, saying datura "was generally employed as a narcotic paste or as wood in a fire ceremony and could be easily absorbed through the skin or the lungs."10 In support of this position, it is worth noting that Gustav Schenk described experiencing profound psychoactive effects after inhaling smoke from an unknown number of henbane seeds, which contain some of the same psychoactive alkaloids as datura, although in lesser concentrations.33 Schenk also describes datura smoke as psychoactive.33 There is textual evidence that datura's psychoactive effects may have played a part in some tantric rituals. The Mahākāla Tantra says the yogi who applies a datura ointment will "revolve like a bee". Parts of the datura plant are referred to in the Cakrasamvara Tantra as "the five intoxicants". The Vajramahabhairava Tantra may be saying that if you put datura in someone's food, they will go insane. Were psychoactive plants regarded as helpful for achieving liberation? The Tārā Tantra seems to say so; the scripture quotes Buddha as saying that wine without cannabis will not produce "ecstasy", a key attainment in the technique of subtle energy yoga that it describes.9,32 However, the Tārā Tantra is a relatively minor scripture and did not exert a strong influence on Buddhist religious culture. The value placed on psychoactive plants is less clear in the more important tantras. The datura references found in the Guhyasamāja and Cakrasamvara Tantras pertain to magico-religious rites that may be useful, but would probably not be considered essential to the attainment of liberation by most Buddhists. Geoffrey Samuel, author of several books and essays on Buddhist religious culture, suggests that the use of psychoactive plants in the Indian siddha cultural milieu may have been similar to current use observed among modern itinerant ascetics (sadhus) in Asia.34 Such use has been documented throughout the Himalayas, where the plants are consumed by sadhus for a variety of goals, including healing, recreation, and yoga.35 Given its large number of applications, it may indeed be that cannabis was regarded by sadhus and siddhas of medieval India as a useful tool. The Stablein thesis that a strong parallel exists between psychoactive plant use in Tibet and in New World entheo-shamanism, however, appears to go beyond the available evidence. While psychoactive plants appear in Tibetan recipes for alchemical elixirs and sacred medicines, Samuel proposes that such use was "not aiming at the more dramatic transformations of consciousness with which we are familiar when looking at the use of entheogens in other cultures."34 Even in the paradigmatic entheogen-using traditions of Meso- and South America, it can be difficult to make a clear distinction between "worldly" and "spiritual" use. Ayahuasca in South America and psilocybin-containing mushrooms in Mexico have been used to treat illnesses and perform magical feats such as locating lost objects--does this disqualify the traditions from being considered entheogenic? Surely not. Given the complex motivations and interests that drive use of entheogens the world over, it may indeed be appropriate to call Buddhist use of psychoactive plants entheogenic. However, the ayahuasca vine is venerated by the ayahuasca cults of South America, while it is much less clear that any Buddhist tradition has venerated the use of psychoactive plants to a comparable degree. Entheogens may have been viewed as important in some tantric sects, but the available textual evidence is not sufficient to establish that the use of these plants was regarded as a central part of spiritual practice for most tāntrikas of India and Tibet. References
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Re: LSD & Buddhism
Interesting thread. As someone with a cat who, many years back now, experimented frequently with LSD, and now spends a fair amount of time practising Zen and Yoga, I am torn between two views of the LSD experience.
The first is that it is some glimpse of "enlightenment", whatever that may mean. For me the word means, primarily, being ok with one's own mortality. That is one thing cat found on LSD, and it's a state I yearn for. A state where, in a profound sense, "everything is fine" and there is nothing to achieve, simply being is enough. However, as time has gone by, I have moved away from that point of view. Essentially, the "highs" are simply one part of the wheel of becoming. Sorry to use a slightly odd phrase, but this is a Buddhism-related thread. We all come down, and have to live through states of being high and being low. It is unrealistic to expect to be permanently high. I was at a sesshin (a Zen meditation retreat) a month or so ago and the Godo (teacher) used the images of waves a lot in his teaching. He said that life was characterised by waves of experience, good and bad, and that whatever they were, one should try and rest in the ocean, which is unmoving, rather than be carried along by the waves themselves. That way the waves would pass and one could remain tranquil. I'm afraid a lack of eloquence on my part, and the fact this is touching on something I am a complete beginner at, makes my explanations somewhat facile. I think LSD can help one see that there is nothing external to go in search of, no enlightenment. It's like the Maka Hanya Haramita Shingyo says, there is no suffering, there is no end to end of suffering. As one man of Zen said, and I've quoted this before, "there is nothing to do, but do something". The deep truth of this is lost on most, and is usually lost on me. I wonder what it would be like if cat took some LSD now. Cat has had over 8 months without so much as a drink or a cigarette, although he does drink a lot of tea, and eats meat. For now I think life is better served by practicing Yoga and Zazen, but cat hasn't ruled out entirely another psychedelic experience. I get the sense that this, should it happen, is a while off (years, maybe decades). There is much "progress" (Told you it was lost on me!) to be made in this journey without a goal. Ah.....It's all good. Dickon |
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Re: LSD & Buddhism
I just added a new PDF file to the archives:
Are Psychedelics Useful in the Practice of Buddhism? It's written by Myron Stolaroff, author of the online book, Thanatos to Eros: 35 Years of Psychedelic Exploration. (Highly recommended reading BTW!) Here's a summary of the paper: "Some teachers of Buddhist meditation practice regard psychedelic experiences as potentially helpful, while others regard them as harmful. Here, Myron Stolaroff tries to explain these conflicting viewpoints by describing important aspects of employing psychedelics that must be taken into account for effective results. The author has found the informed use of psychedelics to be a valuable tool in accelerating proficiency and deepening meditative practice and offers recommendations for successful use." |
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SWIM feels that using LSD in a spiritual manner (Meditation, Buddhism etc) can be useful for some people, but not all. If some use it, SWIM seriously advises to use only rarely, once a year max. Or just to try a couple of times.
SWIM feels himself after 70 odd undescribable, blissful, white-light experiences on LSD that one can become reliant on the drug to achieve the 'state'. While this does clear ones mind and one can learn from it, SWIM feels this happens only up to a point. In the end the 'beautiful' LSD state becomes a major factor that prevents real meditation - that being, without using drugs. The biggest attachment for SWIM is the desire to reach a past memory of an LSD experience. To be there again. This is a big obstacle. Then duality comes back when the drug wears off, the desire to be at peace and so a choice between being more unhappy or taking the drug again. SWIM warns others as, although amazing experiences on LSD can help, if abused it makes real meditation a lot more difficult and daily life a lot more hard to take. It's a very difficult memory to go beyond the 'psychedelic experience' SWIM wishes he stopped LSD after the first white-light state Real meditation is a lot more difficult for SWIM now, often impossible.
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Re: LSD & Buddhism
I've been researching the role of psychoactive plants in tantric traditions (especially Vajrayana) for several years. I have also been researching the role of alternate states of consciousness (especially visionary states) in these same traditions. Its clear that at least a certain amount of use of these plants was embraced by the siddha-subculture of India, and that some use has continued up to the present day. It is also quite clear that the traditions engendered by these siddhas and sadhus have embraced the use of a wide assortment of psycho-technologies and have employed of a wide range of states of consciousness. It is my distinct impression that there is a decidedly greater interest in ASCs in tantric traditions than there is in other forms of Buddhism.
I personally feel it is a pretty safe bet that if LSD, smokeable DMT, 5-MeO-DMT, ketamine, mescaline (and other favorites of the etheogenic subcutlure) had been available in the pharmacopoeia of medieval India, that many siddhas (such as Jalandaripa and Kanhapa) would have embraced their use. And we would likely find references to them in the higher Tantras (especially the heteropraxic Yogini-Tantras) in the same way we find references to datura, cannabis and other psychoactive plants. The siddhas were undoubtedly world-class psychonauts and there is a great deal to be learned from what they left to posterity. The use of entheogenic plants in tantric Buddhism appears (to me at least) to closely mirror their use by the Kapalikas, the Nathas, and other closely related groups. There also appears to be at least some link between the magical practices and “siddhis” employed by these groups, and the shamanic practices of indigenous groups around the world. In addition to a pdf of the article by Lux and myself (quoted in full above), another article on this topic (with a slightly longer bibliography) can be found on my website. Since I can’t post links yet, you should be able to find it by doing a google search of the title: “The Use of Entheogens in the Vajrayana Tradition: a brief summary of preliminary findings together with a partial bibliography” In addition to these two articles, you can find a large number of the sources cited on my website as well. I am extremely eager to communicate with other pyschonauts who have an interest in tantric or Buddhist approaches to alternate states of consciousness. Warm Regards, R.C. Parker |
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