Drug info - Most economical way to roll ?

[d_nitro]

Hi,
Swim normally takes 3 pills a night in the city. Give or take 1 depending on quality.
So last friday swim took 4.25 pills, they came on quick and very strong, probably the most high swim has been. But it felt like and I think it only lasted maybe 45mins. Then the come down was quite fast.

As swim is not loaded with cash, but his dealer is his friend so he gets them a bit cheaper. Swim was wondering the most efficient way to take pills. Not the way swiy takes them ie.oral, snorting but how to space them out better.

Swim would rather a longer lasting more economical roll than a short intense roll.
And are there any other drugs swiy recommends to combine with e to make it worthwhile.

Swim normally gets relatively drunk before taking orally, always better than starting from sober.

Much appreciated!

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Ps. Swim normally swallows the 3 pills in 30-45 minutes

[gmeziscool2354]

Shoot that shit up your butt aka plug it best way to take pills[period].

[d_nitro]

I've heard up the ass gives swim a short intense roll?

[Ally420]

Originally Posted by d_nitro

I've heard up the ass gives swim a short intense roll?

From Erowid (THESE ARE NOT ME, THIS IS NOT SELF INCRIMINATION):

Originally Posted by Erowid users report

RECTALY: Haha, nasty, but it feels slightly different than oral use, I have to take the same dose, but the peak lasted like an hour longer. I dissolved the MDMA in like an ounce of water, than gave myself an enigma. It came on ten minutes faster too. Well, not too much else to say about this method, other than it's worth a shot.

Conclusion
Summing it up; plugging was the most intense roll I ever had (with the help of some vitamins and marijuana). I will probably plug from now on�it was like two pills in one! I never tripped like that on MDMA but the weed helped a lot with that. Three thumbs up!

Overwhelmed from half a pill.

But... Anyway, for the experience in question. First time trying MDMA rectally. 100mg was dissolved in sterile water, put in a dropper syringe, and inserted rectally. Within 20 minutes, I found that my headspace and significantly altered: I was suddenly, yet smoothly pulled to the peak experience that usually happens to me about 1 hour after oral administration. The ramp up, unlike with the oral ingestion, was completely smooth: a clean transition, with none of the usual bumpiness I often associate with MDMA coming on. I also seemed to come down much faster, but again, quite smoothly, and I found the the ecstatic rush was over within an hour and a half or so, even though I had an afterglow that lasted for a few hours.

[d_nitro]

Swim isnt keen on anal injection lol

[Ally420]

Originally Posted by d_nitro

Swim isnt keen on anal injection lol

That was the fastest effect. most of the others just appeared to plug the pill itself.

[d_nitro]

Ok, swim will not plug anything.
But swim wants to know how to spread them out over a night. Ie. dump 2 then another 1 an hour later.
Thats what hes asking.

cheers

[subliminal1987]

A friend of swim's usaully takes about 3-4 a night. He'll usaully peak and when he starts feeling like he's coming down, he'll pop the next one in.

Unless he buy's horrible pills from a silly dealer, he has a pretty good long extended high. Swim reads that swiy gets his pills from a friend. so atleast he'd be trust worthy hopefully =].

So maybe, after swiy peak, regardless of how long or how short it is, when swiy feel the come down, pop the next one in.

This is coming from swim's friend's experiences. Don't quote me, but just a friendly suggestion =].

Another suggestion is, try not to take them all too close together, your tolerance might build up. Swim remembers when it only took her half a pill to peak to the point of eyes buzzing. After a few weeks, she decided to pop a whole one.
When swim took half again a few months later, music still sounded better, but no eye buzz and no muntedness.

Good luck buddy =]
just plan swiy's seperation of popping dependent on how many pills swiy gets for the night. Also, if swiy just happens to stumble upon a bad stash of pills from swiy's friend, atleast you'll know the rest are bad if the first one swiy takes turns out to be a dud.
That way swiy won't injest too much of the bad stuff (if) you get the bad stuff that night. Just be careful ^_^

[d_nitro]

Yeh, swim's friend stopped doing e for a few months so whatever swim got from him he himself didnt know if they are good. Swims friend is now back on them so swim can get feedback

Swims friend has these orange kappa's at the moment. Bloody good!

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Oh and swim is getting on this thursday . Swim will dump 1.5 or 2, then as peak finishes dump whatever else I have.

Swim will report back here after swim tries it. But by all means swiy post any more information swiy has.

[DietBlonde]

Rectal insertion gives SWIM a more intense and longer roll. Piracetam works like magic. 2400 mg half hour before the dose. Nitrous while SWIM rolls heightens things. And smoking a bowl on the comedown always makes SWIM feel like he's rolling again, makes him hallucinate, and makes him not care that he's coming down.

[d_nitro]

Yeah swim had a joint on the come down and he was having closed eye hallucinations all the way home in the taxi

[Abuse]

snort it...hurts but hits like shit

[Ally420]

Originally Posted by Abuse

snort it...hurts but hits like shit

But significantly shorter acting.

[LostAllFeeling]

SWIM has never had much luck with snorting X. and thier main concern was how quick tolerence can develop. with XTC the best advice is to use sparringly and space it out if one prefers a longer roll

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Originally Posted by DietBlonde

Rectal insertion gives SWIM a more intense and longer roll. Piracetam works like magic. 2400 mg half hour before the dose. Nitrous while SWIM rolls heightens things. And smoking a bowl on the comedown always makes SWIM feel like he's rolling again, makes him hallucinate, and makes him not care that he's coming down.

SWIM has had very intense experiences with using nitrous during the peak of a roll. Very nice

[d_nitro]

Swim waited 2months between rolls in an attempt to make it more intense. Yes it was fkn intense but short.

[distantauthority]

I've not tried any of these but I'm sure they'd help.

1) Having an empty stomach.
2) Taking more at once
3) Screw economical ecstasy taking, buy lots more!

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[d_nitro]

Swim bought 4 red ferraris last thursday. Doubled 2 felt, a tiny charge. Hour later dumped another. Bit more of a charge, didnt feel like mdma. Lost 3 pills (they were swims, and his two friends). So swim managed to find a guy so Swim took one of his.

About 45minutes in, Swim could feel it a little bit of an mdma high, im guessing it was the latest pill as the guy seemed quite genuine but it didnt last long. Swim thinks the first three pills werent mdma but a low dose of speed. They just didnt feel the same nor offer the same side effects swim normally gets from mdma. ie chewing and eye swimming. Although they did keep swim awake till 7am.

Swim got home and took his shoes off and found the 3 pills he lost in his shoe. Swim has no fucking idea how they got in there lol. Swim had a very bad comedown another reason why swim thinks they were speed. Swim felt sick all day and did not want to eat anything, Swim was also frequently pissing and they were long pisses too.

Swim is definately not getting off this guy again. Ripped swim and friends off twice now.

Time to go back to swims old friend, who has normally got good stuff!

[verygoodvibes]

Wow this is my first post.

So OK. SWIM finds this post useful as I have been struggling for money to spend on MDMA since SWIM's just a student.

SWIM have heard of sticking up an ecstasy up in the ass but isn't fully oriented about it. SWIM finds it cost efficient as a lot of ppl mentioned that it gives you better and possibly best hit. SWIM had also read from somewhere that you get up to 90% of the pill's hit compared to when taken orally which can reach ONLY up to 60%. That's a big diffrence! Snorting E can give you up to 70% of the E's hit but not quite as good as plugging. Or so it seems.

SWIM also recommends sticking up an inhaler or vick stick in your nose while standing in front of the airconditioner/fan or somewhere really COLD and breezy. and i mean really COLD and blowing!

Taking a shit too gives SWIY a better hit. Pop a pill then try taking shit after an hour. SWIM do that all the time, SWIM loves it.

[Joe-(5-HTP)]

I remember reading that you piss out over 50% of the MDMA so you could try freezing and drinking your piss... (not totally sure about this statistic)

[dyingtomorrow]

Question for the pluggers:

SWIM has used XTC for almost 10 years but never plugged it. If you have pill form XTC - is it just as good to just pop the pill up there, or is it better do it the mixing-with-water way?

[Sameria]

Originally Posted by dyingtomorrow

Question for the pluggers:

SWIM has used XTC for almost 10 years but never plugged it. If you have pill form XTC - is it just as good to just pop the pill up there, or is it better do it the mixing-with-water way?

Mixing with a small amount of water is far better.

Less discomfort, hits you quicker and you don't have to shove a whole pill up your pooper

[Gotchange]

So if SWIM is taking it rectally then how would he put the water up his butt? SWIM doesnt have anything designed for doing that.

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Oh and SWIM found a good way to drop. What SWIM does sometimes if he has gel caps or powder is put a caps worth of powder into a shot glass with water then take the shot. SWIM finds the come up to be about 20-30 minutes very gradually then the peak is not as strong but the come down is nice. SWIM slept like a baby that morning/afternoon and woke up feeling pretty good.

What SWIM is going to do next time is do half a cap like that then take a full cap orally. SWIM will report back on this method.