Amphetamines + Weed = BAD

[bcStoner420]

SWIM would just like to say that mixing apmphetamines and weed is probably not a good idea. SWIM also likes amphetamines every once in a while and smokes around a gram and half of bc reefer on a daily basisSWIM has had childhood add but seemed to outgrow it and still is recieving prescription dexedrine 10 mg capsules. He stopped taking it mabey just less than a year ago but after smoking pot everyday wihle taking those before that he started to feel heart pains. SWIM didnt know what to make of this and tried to put it off as stress related. Then SWIM started noticing a little while after he smoked pot he would feel the heartpains start to come(only on days i had actually taken the dexedrine) and has noticed and observed this pattern for a long time now which is one of the reasons he stopped taking it for so long, he had to stop taking the amphetamines because is a huge pot fein and has been smoking it for too long to give it up(plus he never really knew dex's recreational potential for it so it never really was something he liked neway, SWIM only had 10 mg slow release once a day so he barely felt a thing. He only discovered the recreational use for it fairly recently and since he has been using it has noticed the same thing happening, the heart pains come when he smokesweed, again,only on days he had also taken dexedrine. But when he takes amphetamines alone experiences no heart pains. When he still used to take dexedrine almost every day of the week and also smoked pot every day it gave permanent slight heart pains the pains just intensified after dex and bud. but after he stopped taking dexedrine all together they started going away and stayed away for a long time, but now recently notices them starting to come back, so has decided not to smoke weed with amphetamines at all anymore.SWIM knows that amphetamines alone will give u heart problems after prolonged use and/or abuse in a prescribed dose or not.SWIM just warns all of you that smoking pot while having amphetamines in your system will speed this process up durastically.


He says doesnt have any total scientific proof but is pretty sure they both speed ur heartrate up durastically which just wears your heart out(to put it simply).there is probly alot of u who disagree with SWIM and if you do just post here and your reasons.Edited by: sitbcknchill

[happatai]

Marijuana is a downer.

Dexedrine is an upper.

Bad combination. Known to cause heart attacks and seizures to some people.

[Mike177]

I cant say for what the combo dose to your heart long term, but i have done the combo before and liked it. When I went on an all night adderall binge to get some last min work done. i probly went threw 50-60mg in the course of 6 hours, using diffrnt routs of administration. when around the 6-7th hour i smoked a bowl and found the combo of the two to be a nice change. Very euphoric and very fun. Wile i dont really use amphetamines recreationaly I always get up to recreational doses when im done with it and on the few occations i have, weed made it better. just my $00.02

Peace,
Mike

[high_s0ciety]

I dont know what u guys r talkin about some people do it all the time and it just enhances the adderall. so ive heard!

[afroh]

Im from the UK so getting prescription speed is nearly unheard of but I was doing street cut speed nearly every weekend for about8 months and I smoked hash and or skunk at every session that happened with no heart problems.........yet


*AfroH*

[bcStoner420]

Originally Posted by high_s0ciety

I dont know what u guys r talkin about some people do it all the time and it just enhances the adderall. so ive heard!

just because of that means it doesnt cause heart problems or speed the rate at which they progress at? i dont think so its proven amphetamines alone are bad for your heart long term

[bcStoner420]

Originally Posted by Mike177

I cant say for what the combo dose to your heart long term, but i have done the combo before and liked it. When I went on an all night adderall binge to get some last min work done. i probly went threw 50-60mg in the course of 6 hours, using diffrnt routs of administration. when around the 6-7th hour i smoked a bowl and found the combo of the two to be a nice change. Very euphoric and very fun. Wile i dont really use amphetamines recreationaly I always get up to recreational doses when im done with it and on the few occations i have, weed made it better. just my $00.02

Peace,
Mike

i still do mix em once in a while, did em on a daily basis mixed with pot and cigs and such for like a year

[tweakerfrommars]

I sometimes smoke a bit of weed after I've been smoking bowl after bowl after bowl of tweak all night. Well, when I smoke meth like that, there is always a point while tweaking where I am high as fuck but feel like total shit at the same time (I guess what was traditionally referred to as the "tweaking" stage of the experience), when the physical side effects can no longer be ignored, extreme irritability and accompanying paranoia set in and I begin to fiend for a hit...smoking a fat joint of good weed not only completely eliminates all of this, but the resulting euphoria from the ice/mj combo easily gives the original rush a run for its money.

Anyway, discounting all the downer and upper bullshit, amphetamine (maybe moreso meth though) and marijuana are highly synergistic (the two highs work off of each other to make you even more fucked up), and I definitely think there is the possibility of the combined effects being especially hard on your heart nervous system. However, I also doubt it would really be a danger to anyone except those already vulnerable to potential heart problems or seizures.

[oldman]

I have done the research before and don't have any links but I did adderall and weed everyday for 5-6 years and what happens is that MJ begins acting like a stimulant in your body. They combine and form some kind of alternative and sometimes very effective antidepressant. So anyway people that smoke weed, like alot of weed a day, will notice that it starts to become a stimulant and not a depressant. It no longer mellows them out. It actually seems to facilitate their attention more. This is not statement that pot will help you focus. I'm just saying that when yuo do it all the time it becomes like that cup of coffee many people have to have several times aday. I don't smoke much anymore, maybe every 6-8 weeks and really it does mellow me now but when I smoked 5-6 times a day with or without Adderall it acted as a stimulant caused nervousness and that's where that chest pain comes from, your heart yes but its more tension from anxiety. I may not know alot about RC's but MJ I'm like a PHD

[PenguinPhreak]

I would just like to point out cannabis is *not* a downer. If anything
it is closer to stimulants. Get your facts straight before offering
advice.

[jesusfreak666er]

not a bad combo as long u prepare right... weed isnt a true "downer" and even true downers like xanax can be fun if u mix the dosage right cuz u get up but feel chill at same time cant really discribe but moving back from that rant sry.... if u have enuff weed its great cuz in my experiance amps shorter ur high and descrease or atleast change it. because at a lower dose weed still gives u a down effect without giving u the unique "hallucinagin" (no better word to describe reallythough it isnt a hall) u smoke enuff weed with ur addys or wat be it and u will be trippin balls but it takes like 1and half as much as it usually does in my experiance. but when u got the feeling goin its rockin.... its the same idea as a yaybowl (coke on weed)

[jesusfreak666er]

regarding the heart issue, i talked to my dad hes a cardiologist.... its the adderall in general that causes the heart issue not the weed, weed is bad for other things sure but abusing speed is hell on ur heart. but its definately worth it so have fun!

[CokeFiend]

I've taking 2 Adderall 30MG pills, Smoked 2.0, then took another pill. Normally when I'm on adderall I can concentrate on many people talking at once. But when I mix it with weed. I can only concentrate on 1 person. All other noises/launguges sound like jibberish to me.

[searcher]

speed + weed = rush

[Gas Da ShizzO]

When im under the influence of gak,I can't smoke enough reefer,my buzz gets sooooo intensified Edited by: Gas Da ShizzO

[ilikeboobies]

Speed + Weed = Best combo ever

[tina_craig]

But, do a 5 day run and then burn a fatty coming down, nothing is better.

[Dexy Mcfukfuk]

I have always found the two to not be a wonderful combination anyways. True, the speed helps keep you from being groggy and tired, but it sort of takes a lot out of the high.


However, using weed while crashing works really well, not only does it mellow and calm you down, but it can also put you to sleep. Once after taking a total of130 mg of adderall in the corse ofa day i smoked a bowl of some KB and went right to sleep, no problem.

[ziphren]

Originally Posted by PenguinPhreak

I would just like to point out cannabis is *not* a downer. If anything it is closer to stimulants.

True, weed has recently been reclassified as a stimulant. that would explain the heart pains when mixing it with other stimulants. but for SWIM, weed + meth is one of the craziest highs around. Talk about time dilation... 10 minutes seems like an hour O But SWIM would NOT reccommend it to anyone with heart problems..

[Montgolfier]

not a good combination for me... they are two very different highs


One makes you want to dance/talk non-stop the other makes you want to relax


The last time I did lots of both together I thought my head was gonna explode

[wertfun]

I dont think speed makes you dancing. You must be taken extacy also. But, any way if you take both (weed+amph)talking is even more interesting Edited by: wertfun

[oldman]

if you're naturall uninhibited and a good dancer speed won't hurt your dancing. weed and speed for many = heightened anxiety. all depends on the individual. Personally swim thinks one usually robs the other of the most desirable effects with him. god knows he has had alot of experience with both.

[wertfun]

Dancing is maybe about also age I was having fun of dancing with extacy and even just alchool but I was younger 5-6 years ago. When I start take speed I was older and feeling more serious about everything I didnt enjoy dancing. If I wanna dance and have fun rightnow I wouldnt take speed, alchol would be fine. With extacy everything is fine.


If I take together with my friend amph+weed, we make telapati.

[oldman]

i will agree nothing like dancin on e, swim hasn't found an rc yet that he would be comfortable clubbing (dancing specifically) with. the one that don't make you feel like a gargoyle (I love that expression read it here last week) usually make you feel kinda lathargic or too relaxed to want to dance, fast anyway like to D&B. Maybe twisting and stretching arms up slow. this would be a good topic for a forum , post whatever. what rc's find most social or best to dance on.

[wertfun]

Infact best is dancing with clear head if enjoy it, did anyone try it. You really have fun if youlike to dance with clear head. with e everythingsure be fun