Injecting - IM no rush?

[Jim James]

Ok, first time swim trys K via IM,

mixed about a lines worth with a couple of ml and shot via IM

tried in the bum, the calf, thigh and arm

using a 29guage where is swim going wrong?

[porchy]

A rush is usually associated with the fast onset of a drug, usually IV. With IM the drug would be absorbed a lot slower. SWIM is assuming when SWIY says he gets no rush he means that he gets effects but, well no rush.

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM has IMed K a few times mainly in his bum cheek and once in the top of his leg. It kicks in around the same time as snorting does for SWIM just requires a far lower dose as all of it gets absorbed whereas when it's snorted a lot is swallowed or snotted out.

SWIM finds he only needs 250-300mg to K hole when IMing but never gets a rush. The comeup does feel quite different to snorting it though, nicer in some ways. Although for ease SWIM prefers snorting.

[Jim James]

Sorry by no rush swim means no effect.

Swim is not the thinnest swimmer if swim shot into fat would the dose be wasted?

The needle is a 1ml U-100 INSLIN and the measurments on the packaging are 0,33mm (29G) x 12,7mm


Is 12.7mm long enough to hit musle?

And is it best to go front on or side on to musle?

Where do other IMers prefere to shoot?


Regards,

Jim

[psychedelaholic]

SWIM just lies on his front and sticks the needle into the centre of his bum cheek. Pushing the needle all the way in. SWIM then slowly injects it over the space of about 20seconds. SWIY must obviously make sure there are no air bubbles and SWIM would suggest SWIY doesn't use already cooked up K but gets pure crystal and uses that. Although SWIM has never really come across cut K, using crystal would be a lot safer, plus when K is cooked up contaminants could get into it anyways.

SWIM doesn't know the size of SWIY's lines or how big a tolerance SWIY but even at doses of 50mg IM should have at least some effect. But yer SWIM would of thought injecting into fat would not work at all.

[Jim James]

Cheers and how long is the needle you use? How far do you go into to hit musle?

Swim was using crystal K

[BumpBump]

swim says be carefull IM in your bum.... the siatic nerve runs there, its the upper left most quater to aim for

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SWIM never realised this!! Thanks for mentioning it.

[FistyCuffs]

Originally Posted by BumpBump

swim says be carefull IM in your bum.... the siatic nerve runs there, its the upper left most quater to aim for

Or to be more correct, the upper OUTER quadrant (superior lateral).. depending on which side you do.

SWIM perfers leg tho.

Also, I believe insulin syringes are too short for IM. Not sure exactly how long a the needle needs to be for IM (SWIM uses 25g 1 inch), but usually for subcutaneous injection, the needle is inserted at 45 degrees. But insulin needles are designed to be short so that they can be inserted at 90 and still give sub cutaneous application. This might explain why u feel no rush, as it takes much longer to disperse, ie, sub cut > IM > IV in terms of time to come up.

PS. SWIM also thinks it's good to keep the number of ml's to a minimum, ie 2ml max.

FistyCuffs added 8 Minutes and 8 Seconds later...

Here are some good instructions from a nursing book:

Ahhh damn, i don't have enough posts to post a link, so instead google "Excerpts from Nursing Procedures", 1st link is a pdf all about IM

Some good info there

[Tony Williams]

Would the bicep be a good spot?