4-ho-mipt (Miprocin)

[Alfa]

Please post info about 4-HO-MIPT here.
Can anyone add information about:

• names / synonyms
• molecule
• dose
• duration
• side effects
• have there been any reported incidents with this compound?
• since when has this research chemical been available?
• legal status
• stability of the molecule / compound

Experiences with 4-HO-MIPT should be posted here: 4-ho-mipt (miprocin) trip reports
These documents about 4-HO-MIPT are in the file archive

Also see this threads:
4-HO-MiPT (Miprocin) solubility...
4-HO-MiPT Effects and Ratings Survey Results

Our members list varying dosage. Most list good effects around 18-20 mg 4-HO-MIPT. 12 - 15 mg 4-HO-MIPT seems a good beginners dose. Doses of 30 mg 4-HO-MIPT or higher are experienced as not pleasurable. The dose response curve of 4-HO-MIPT is steep at that level.

Our members list a duration of 5 - 8 hours.
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Here is the TIHKAL entry:

4-HO-MIPT

TRYPTAMINE, 4-HYDROXY-N-ISOPROPYL-N-METHYL; 4-INDOLOL, 3-[2-(ISOPROPYLMETHYLAMINO)ETHYL]; 4-HYDROXY-N-ISOPROPYL-N-METHYLTRYPTAMINE; 3-[2-(ISOPROPYLMETHYLAMINO)ETHYL]-4-INDOLOL

DOSAGE : 12 - 25 mg, orally (as the indolol or the acetate)

DURATION : 4 - 6 hrs

QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 9 mg, orally) "I am stuck just part way on. There is some retinal activity with my eyes closed. Maybe I am a little light-headed, a little starry. Nothing much."

(with 12 mg, orally) "It was just an hour ago that I swallowed the capsule, and everything is happening. I was completely developed at 45 minutes. The imagery with my eyes closed is vivid. The music is exceptionally sensual. I notice a tendency to twitch but it doesn't bother me. Everything is rolling -- how can they allow an erotic piece like the Saint Saëns second piano concerto to ever appear in public, let alone over the radio? A very rapid decline between the third and fourth hour. A rich day for love, insights, fantasy and for retreating into one's mind. A rich day for discovery."

(with 12 mg, orally) "I suspended the solids in water, and a drop of HCl put it into solution immediately. The first awareness was unmistakable at twenty minutes, and from there it was a rapid and noisy development ending at about an hour. But this lasted for only another 40 minutes, and then dropped off quite rapidly. The erotic was excellent, but there were few visuals and I had difficulty connecting fantasy to music. Good appetite afterwards, and I had no trouble getting to sleep."

(with 15 mg acetate ester, orally) "An interesting mixture of intoxication and sedation, progressing to a very relaxed state with some motor incoordination. Just a little bit like alcohol or GHB. There was no drifting of thoughts nor any gut disturbance at any time, although I wasn't very hungry. Conversation was easy."

(with 20 mg, orally) "Early signs (muscle sensations) were noticed in 10 minutes. In another 10 minutes a rapid heightening of all senses ensued, reaching a plateau in 40 minutes and beginning to decline in 3 hours with a return to near normal in 5-6 hours. The intensity of the experience is marked. At the plateau, communication (verbal) is difficult with intense alteration in the sense of time and distance. Multiple and overlapping wave forms occur with an extremely intense color alteration. Drifting in and out of the body is common with an increased sense of body processes, i.e., blood flow in vessels. Muscular sense is increased and a feeling of soaring in bodiless flight is experienced. A mild vertigo was felt with attempted walking but is not associated with nausea. Some anxiety was experienced initially, but could be interpreted as a reaction to the extremely powerful onset. A curious, probably idiosyncratic effect, was of possessing the essence of sexual power associated with being a large jungle cat. The idea was prominent for some time. Conservatively, this compound is at least twice as active as psilocin at comparable doses, in terms of plateau or peak effect. External stimuli, especially light, were distracting to the point of annoyance. Sounds can be seen, words explode into showers of bright points with eyes closed. Other eyes-closed imagery is prominent with patterns (in color); at times soaring clouds dominate the eyes-closed scenery. I cannot overemphasize the intensity of the experience. I would not want to go much higher than 20 milligrams (50 milligrams of psilocin is not as intense)."

(with 30 mg acetate ester, orally) "It was as if I had downed a few martinis in a hurry -- except that there were eye-closed visuals in a lot of different colors, especially metallic greens. I had jaw clenching and a body tremor, reminding me of ecstasy except is was not in any way stimulated. I listened to music in front of a fireplace in a darkened room and I saw bright colorful unstructured patterns. Seven hours and I fell into an easy sleep and was fine the next day."

EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY : This is a two-carbon homologue of psilocin, and as this latter chemical is orally active, it is not surprising that this is, as well. One direct comparison between the two materials, on widely separated days and at very high levels, indicated that 20 milligrams of 4-HO-MIPT was fully equivalent to 50 milligrams of psilocin in one report. And yet another report with 30 milligrams of the acetate ester, things were considerably more modest. At these higher levels, the onset was noted well within the first half hour.

[anj0vis]

I think they are slightly overestimating the potency of miprocin, but nevertheless it is highly active substance.

[erinmakowski]

A friend of mine recently tried 4-ho-mipt. She said the effects came in waves, with heat and cold flashes in between...
The granular substance appears light grey in color...

Can anyone confirm the color and sensations as they do not fit the description that she read..She is concerned it may infact be something else other than 4-ho-mipt

Thanks

[anj0vis]

hmm.. colour might vary slightly due moisture (it propably is hygroscopic) and purity. My stash is light grey with a very faint hue of brown, very fine powder.

Miprocin as a psychedelic is in the top class though. I have a full blown trip with just slightly over 20mg of that.

[shadistik]

Originally Posted by erinmakowski

The granular substance appears light grey in color

Sounds like real stuff to me...

[voacanga]

yes, i purchased 4-ho-mipt that looked like that, i never ate any of it, but between me and three other friends, we smoked a gram in one night. it is killer, i loved it. one of my friends was getting some wierd tingeling sensations in his extremities

[RoboCop]

So 4-ho-mipt can be smoked? I guess its rather wastefull if you used a full G. Could of had at least 40 trips orally. Any one else try smoking this?Edited by: RoboCop

[GDxCAT]

yeh, smoking a gram is waste of product and money (im just guessing, iv never tried it.)

Orally seems the way to go with this one.



Erin, what youhave sounds like 4 ho mipt, so dont worry. (although i noticed alot of the 4ho compounds look similar.)

[allyourbase]

whoa 20 trips? from a gram?????? no. just no. if your product is decent you should have 50 AMAZING doses. 20 milligrams is quite a bit of this substance, its dose/response is signifigant. it is NOT like iprocin, it is far more serious. 50 milligrams is no small matter.

[Softrat]

From what I read on Errowid it sounds like many of these tryptamine RCs can over time turn a bit grayish/brown, so it's probably nothing to worry about. It could be as mentioned above due to the absorbtion of water in the air. It could also be related to oxidation or other breakdown products. In many substances the pure substance is a pure white. However sometimes it only takes a small mount of impurity, from something like oxidation, to cause an overall change of colore to the substance.

[anj0vis]

50mg of miprocin is .. huh, quite much. I've gone to around 80mg of iprocin and that is quite high fly, but 32mg of miprocin was higher, it just is a strong chemical.

[nanobrain]

while no one can tell you what your gray lumpy substance is, it sounds like it may be what was intended.

as far as smoking - i am very surprised, and would imagine pyrolitic degradation and deactivation, anyone on the chem side confirm / deny this?

btw, 4-ho-mipt is fully active at 12-14mg, had some friends carpet swimming for about 3 hours. over 20mg is total overkill.Edited by: nanobrain

[mariecurie]

I disagree with over twenty milligrams being total overkill, although I
do acknowledge that by fifty milligrams you would absolutely be insane
for a few hours.



This stuff is so lovely. Beats the hell out of all the other research
chems if you ask me. Anyone who has tried it, post reports on erowid so
that people can start learning about it.



Or will letting people in on our little secret just get it illegalized? Yikes.

[nanobrain]

^glowing reports (and especially those indicating any recreational properties) on anything will lead to faster criminalisation...thoughts to ponder indeed.

[allyourbase]

it doesnt seem to degrade in quality over time IME.

[Potassium Kid]

Swim just recently did 30mg of 4-ho-mipt and it was a nice experience and not too intense like i taught it was going to be like..Would anybody agree or disagree with me that 4-ho-mipt and 2cb are very much alike ? swim was also surprised that snorting it was not painful either..

Experiences should be posted here: 4-MEO-MIPT experiences

[Kamen Rider]

Can anybody tell the difference between 4ho mipt and 2CB ?

[Nagognog2]

Most experienced venturers can easily tell the difference between phenethylamine - based psychedelics and their tryptamine - based cousins.

For one thing, the physical sensations in the body are quite different. And the visual aspects differ as well. Persian rugs v. fractals.

[Kamen Rider]

Swim has very litle experience with rc's as he's only done 4 ho mipt , 2cb,foxy and methylone...

How would you say are the body sensations and visual aspects of 4 ho mipt and 2cb that swiy or anybody ?

Swim pretty much saw the same visuals with both of those compounds..Both visuals were geometric and had a lot of trails but is hard to compared and tell the differences because swim has only done each compound twice ..

2cb and 4 ho mipt both had mdma qualities to them but it can of felt like the same body high ...

I really would like to know so swim can tell them apart next time ..

[Nagognog2]

Experience is always the best teacher. If SWIM continues in experimenting with such, assuming SWIM truly knows what chemicals SWIM is dealing with, the differences will make themselves evident over time. Until then, a test kit sensitive to differentiating various phenethyls and trypts would be one's best bet.

[London_Bloke]

This is a molecule that is of enormous interest to SWIM lately. She has been seriously considering adding this to her research schedule, as the other aforementioned substances have been well documented.

The #1 issue to be considered is body load. One of SWIM's cavies gets terrible tremors from everything in the 2C family, tremors that override any positive aspects. SWIM would be interested in hearing from any researcher with an opinion with regards to BL in conjunction with this chemical.

[joechip666]

Originally Posted by BadnessNeeds

The #1 issue to be considered is body load. One of SWIM's cavies gets terrible tremors from everything in the 2C family, tremors that override any positive aspects. SWIM would be interested in hearing from any researcher with an opinion with regards to BL in conjunction with this chemical.

SWIM finds this chemical to have a very light to almost nil body load in terms of muscle tension, gastric disturbances, headache, and body temperature fluctuations. It, unfortunately does have a "tryptamine tremor" in the early stages of the experience. But it is so worth the small sacrifice! Also, it is somewhat "speedy" with light heart-racing. Beware of combinations involving this as SWIM had a very big scare from combining this with 5-Meo-MiPT which resulted in severe cardio symptoms.

[mfrieze]

Swim will be trying this chemical soon. He ordered a sample and cant wait to do some research. swim hears its alot like 4 aco dmt but swim isn't sure

[Perception Addict]

swim feels there's a marked difference between the phens and tryps, both visual and body load. Beyond that, there's something that just feels indescribably different to swim.

Originally Posted by joechip666

t is somewhat "speedy" with light heart-racing. Beware of combinations involving this as SWIM had a very big scare from combining this with 5-Meo-MiPT which resulted in severe cardio symptoms.

Wow, swim tried the same combination and experienced no speediness, and really enjoyed the combination despite the somewhat heavy body load. In fact, the lack of speedy feeling (swim has always associated speediness with the 2c-x's) was one of swim's favorite aspects of this chem, which she considers her favorite RC, and in fact, favorite drug in general. It's interesting how one substance can cause such different effects.

[radiometer]

Only a preliminary study has been done here, at 14mg. Both subjects exhibited flu-like symptoms (general malaise) during the transition, but that cleared up once the transition was over. It seemed that the experience was well worth the somewhat rough onset. I recommend finding illuminati_boy's survery results, they give a great summary of effects reported by many individuals.