TEK - The Lemon TEK: Mushrooms in Lemon Juice

[raven3davis]

anyone have experience with this. I recently found a post on XXXX which referred to this method and it lead to a post at the XXXX. Yall should check out both these pages for more info on this method. Supposdely you trip like 3 times harder because the shrooms all hit you at once and it isnt hard for your body to break down. Swim and his friend went hunting today and only found one shroom. It was completely dried out and would have made for a very mild trip. SWIM and his friend didn have a scale but estimated the shroom to be like .5-.75 grams. It was dried so they crumbled it to dust and put it in a cup then poured enough lemon juice to cover the shroom dust + some. They stirred it for a while and let it site for a few hours. They didnt intentionally let it sit for so long, it is just that SWIMs friend had some unexpected errands to run etc. So finalls SWIMS friend took it and confirmed that this trip was harder than his last trip, which was about 3X the amount of mushies. The comeup is faster and the durration is shorter but IMO thats a good thing. Several people on the XXXX have confirmed that this works so I ma just passing on the information. SWIM will hopefully get to try this method soon, but several people on the XXXX swear by it. The logic behind this is that the lemon juice helps the psylocybin/psilocin enter the bloodstream faster thus causing a faster comeup, more intense trip and shorter duration. Maybe the acidity of the lemon juice also extracts the goodies into the juice somewhat? Who knows. Check out XXXX and XXXX ....am I allowed to post links? SWIMs friend was skeptical but swears it is true. Im glad someone randomly stumbled across this method because im sure many of you will find it works.

[kaniz]

Awhile ago, SWIM had a mushroom party. Near the end of the night SWIM
decided to make soem tea with the remaining mushrooms, and added a
bunch of lemons to the mix.



The tea ended up not getting drunk, and it sat in the fridge for a few
days. SWIM then thought "There is a bunch of fruit/sugar in this, I
should freeze it so it doesnt go bad".



About 2 months later, SWIM decided he wanted to try some, and melted
some of the tea and drank less then a cup full, as halfway though SWIM
rembered he had a test to study for, and decided he didnt want to get
fucked up. SWIM drank a very /small/ ammount.



SWIMs comeup was quick, the trip was fairly 'weak', but considering the
ammount that SWIM drank, it was strong, modertate CEV, colours seemed
brighter, mild breather, improved mood. If SWIM had drank an entire cup
of the tea, he would of been rather ripped.



Maybe it was the large ammount of lemon juice, and the lenght of which
it soaked in it that helped with this? SWIM has over a cups worth left
sitting in the freezer still, and plans on drinking it soon.

[raven3davis]

SWIM just talked to his friend and he said the trip lasted 4 hours strong, 6 hours total. Most people said this method shortens the duration to approx. 4 hours, so who knows. I would definitely recommend this method to anyone who wants to conserve shrooms. SWIM will be trying this method as soon as he finds some shrooms growing in someomes lawn or something like that.

[Nature Boy]

I had an intense acid trip where I kept drinking grapefruit juice and it made my taste buds go crazy. I may try shrooms with lemon juice to see if I can get similar/better results.

[Phungushead]

Powdering up shrooms, mixing them with a liquid, and drinking it will
usually give you a stronger come-up because your body doesn't have
to break up all the fibery shroom material. It is by far my favorite way
to take shrooms.

The acidity of the lemon juice might increase absorption or something
like that.

[raven3davis]

Yea they are saying it works good with grapefruitjuice, cranberryjuice, and lemon juice in that order. Since lemon juice is the most acidic, it supposedly aids the process of absorbtion better than the others.

[Phungushead]

Interesting. Will have to try that. I usually mix mine with grape juice, so it will
be interesting to see how the trips compare...

[pacamohu]

Swim was curious about how much lemon juice to soak about 3.5 grams of mushrooms in. Also, how long before ingesting them should swim soak the mushrooms.

[bcStoner420]

SWIM has mixed them together 1 part shrooms 1 part lemon juice, so just equal amounts. It has worked for him in the past. For the time, he's not sure exactly he always made them around 4 hours ahead of time just to be sure, it's around somewhere you could easily find out whats recommended. SWIM just guessed though and that's how he used them and they worked.

[raven3davis]

SWIM just covers the powder with lemon juice. He puts in enough to make the mixture more of a liquid and not just a clump of wet shroom powder. SWIM usually puts it in a closed container so he can shake the hell out of it and he waits like 1 hour.

[Franklin's Tower]

SWIM is considering lemon tek for swim's next trip. SWIM is inquiring on the correct way to do this for best intensity/overall duration.

SWIM has read about grinding up and letting sit in lemon juice. Is this correct? and if so, for how long to sit in juice? How much juice to use? etc..etc...SWIM has tried to find detailed step by step instructions but to no avail OR too many different opinions on the matter.

SWIM seeks feedback b4 Friday - - THANKS

Franklin's Tower added 2 Minutes and 7 Seconds later...

Originally Posted by Franklin's Tower

SWIM is considering lemon tek for swim's next trip. SWIM is inquiring on the correct way to do this for best intensity/overall duration.

SWIM has read about grinding up and letting sit in lemon juice. Is this correct? and if so, for how long to sit in juice? How much juice to use? How fine to ground? etc..etc...SWIM has tried to find detailed step by step instructions but to no avail OR too many different opinions on the matter.

SWIM seeks feedback b4 Friday - - THANKS

SWIM has also read about cranberry juice.

[cra$h]

orange and grapefruit juice are known to potenate a little, but swim's interested in hearing more about this lemon tek. swim's planning on a trip this weekend to, and always enjoys mixing it up a little

[RedBaron]

Swim has never tried this method but is sure it will work....he once made mushroom tea and put orange peels in when it was seeping for the citric acid extraction.....thats all you really need and lemon juice would be a good choice for high levels of it.

Citric acid can be found in all sorts of drinks and even treated foods like potato chips.....it has been known to break down psycilobin faster and to hit the user with stronger effects......Swim made mushroom tea the first time and had 3gs between 2 people and was pretty high but still on this world......no word of a lie the second time he and 2 other friends had 2gs between them and let the orange peels seep this time......they were all tripping big time...visuals, audio changes, deep philosophical thinking as if all the propenents of the previous trip but at much more intense peak levels.

[cra$h]

damn, it really does that much? the only thing swim could relate the potenation to is tums and codeines, and from what swim's read they work similar, but how much it potenate compared to what tums do?

[RedBaron]

Swim has never heard of tums or codeine to potentiate the trip but could see the possibility of it........From personal experience though he knows that citric acid could definately enhance the effects just because of the quantity with and with out plus the highs that came with it......may Swim mention that the shrooms were from the same batch when he made the tea both times..

[cra$h]

oh, no, you got me all wrong. tums potenate drugs like oxycodone/hydrocodone. The tums and opiates have nothing to do with the mushrooms, it was intended more as an analogy.
How much more does citric acid add to the trip? Lets say a 10 would be a good trip, how much would the citric acid bump it up to? And how does it effect the come-up and durration?

[RedBaron]

Lol Swim should`ve been able to grasp that but is feeling pretty dissociative at the moment.....however he can honestly say that citric acid improved all aspects of the trip experience. The comeup was alot faster starting to hit him in 25 minutes and under.....the duration was pretty similar to other times but the minute,mild effects lasted longer than usual and jus seemed to slowly taper off at the end of the day.....if a good zoomer trip would be a 10, Swim would have to say that the citric acid would bump it up to a 15 as everytime hes done this its just been an out of this world trip...

[cra$h]

Damn! that's some good news! Swim's got some mushies that everyone's saying is visually intense, and off 1.5g a friend of swim couldn't even see. Now swim's pumped up to have an orange about a half hour before the mushies (3g of mostly caps) and just get zonked! Don't get me wrong, swim tries to base every trip, especially new or more powerful ones on a spiritual level. He hates kids who use psychedelics to giggle like fools at the pink elephants floating around.

[Franklin's Tower]

Thanks for all the feedback but so begs the question:

How or what does SWIM do to make lemon tek? Grind into powder (if so, how fine), mix (stir, blend, etc), drink (shots, hold in mouth)? Is fresh squezzed OJ better? Should ground up powder sit in liquid for any special length of time or just mix it and down it immediately?

Any feedback would be appreciated.

[Phungushead]

Yeah, I know... beautiful art, huh

Labrat has heard of others using many other substances to soak the
ground up mushrooms in (soda/pop [carbonic acid], for example).

One theory behind the Lemon TEK is based on that psilocybin is converted
into psilocin in the body by dephosphorylation under acidic conditions or
enzymatically by phosphates present in the body. So the conversion
from prodrug to psychoactive substance has already taken place before
ingestion. Labrat sees the science behind this as logical, although it does
have flaws...

Quicker absorption due to the mushrooms already being broken down
(similar to mushroom tea in that respect) is another theory.

Yet another is that it is simply a placebo... although Labrat has tried this
before, and it does seem give a much stronger trip...