ETH-LAD

[Alfa]

ETH-LAD


6-NORLYSERGIC ACID, N,N-DIETHYLAMIDE 6-ETHYL; 6-NORLYSERGAMIDE, N,N-DIETHYL-6-ETHYL; N,N-DIETHYLNORLYSERGAMIDE, 6-ETHYL; N-(6)-ETHYLNORLYSERGIC ACID, N,N-DIETHYLAMIDE; 9,10-DIDEHYDRO-N,N,6-TRIETHYLERGOLINE-8b-CARBOXAMIDE; N-ETHYL-NOR-LSD



DOSAGE : 40 to 150 micrograms, orally


DURATION : 8 - 12 hrs


QUALITATIVE COMMENTS : (with 20 µgs, orally) "This has a very real effect at this level, whereas I have no response at all from LSD at 20 mikes."


(with 50 µgs, orally) "This is already coming on in fifteen minutes, and is completely developed in another hour. Very few visual changes or distortions but easy eyes-closed imagery. Pretty much out after ten hours; it was a good, repeatable experiment."


(with 60 µgs, orally) "In about an hour or so, gentle movements of the house plants were noted. The walkway of the painting above the fireplace changed as if the sunny spots were moving ahead. The visual aspects became more LSD-like after a couple more hours, though in a very gentle way. The spider windowpane looked three-dimensional: at first I thought the windows were double-paned, but they were not. Stones, rocks and glass had a magical look to them, but tree bark looked like tree bark. Occasionally, a dark streak (spot) would go through the visual field and a page of a book would move sharply without effort. These aspects were very pleasant to me."


(with 75 µgs, orally) "I am up to a ++ within the hour and am feeling lazy. It is very diuretic and certainly not anorexic. Have been dieting strenuously for the past 4 days, but could definitely be interested in food. Also a decongestant. Body feels balanced. Thinking easy. Concepts easy to follow through. Mind and feelings together as should be. Definitely a plus two, no further. I wonder if it would be possible, at any level, to attain that blurring of boundaries that is the plus three at its best? My mind was at all times capable of realistic and down-to-earth thought, this is not a material that will allow you to float two inches off of the floor."


(with 100 µgs, orally) "It sort of sneaks up on you. Certainly not the push of LSD and, sadly, not the sparkle either. Possible time slowing. Easy sleep and no price to pay the next day."


(with 150 µgs, orally) "Extraordinary experience, none of the demands of LSD, just a completely together trip. There were hints of tummy discomfort and some chills early in the trial, but they were trivial and quickly passed. Fine music, and fine sex."


EXTENSIONS AND COMMENTARY : What a remarkable compound. It is a little more potent than LSD, but much less aggressive in the nature of its action. There appears to be little if any of the push, the taking control nature, of LSD and a greatly modified degree of visual distortion. The warmth and humor appears to be there, but all seems more allowing rather than demanding.

[ODB]

Is Eth-Lad just as fragile a compound as lsd?

[raven3davis]

SWIM has heard rumors that a certain batch of Hoffman blotters being circulated is actually ETH-LAD. SWIM heard it is so clean you can sleep on it.

Any experiences? Sounds like a very interesting drug.

[dr_haldol]

SWIM thinks that all of these compounds (Ergot alkaloid derivates) are kinda same in instability.

[Samadhi]

If there is a dupe circulating a chemical that is actually requiring MORE steps AFTER the production of LSD, I'll eat my hat. The rumor mill is just so afraid that acid can be acid nowadays sometimes.

crazy to think that someone would even want to try whippin up an LSD analog after synthing good quality LSD in the first place.

[raven3davis]

Originally Posted by samadhi123

If there is a dupe circulating a chemical that is actually requiring MORE steps AFTER the production of LSD, I'll eat my hat. The rumor mill is just so afraid that acid can be acid nowadays sometimes.

crazy to think that someone would even want to try whippin up an LSD analog after synthing good quality LSD in the first place.

Well it is a good bit stronger than LSD so maybe that extra step could make it worth the trouble. The reports are intriguing.

[Dogears]

So is this an unscheduled chemical? Like a research chemical version of LSD.
Very interesting, finally an analogue of LSD that might actually be worth the trouble of making and putting on the market.

[Shampoo]

Originally Posted by Dogears

So is this an unscheduled chemical? Like a research chemical version of LSD.
Very interesting, finally an analogue of LSD that might actually be worth the trouble of making and putting on the market.

Though ETH-LAD is not scheduled like LSD, it would most likely fall either under the analogue act in most countries, or under the 'illegal' heading. Seeing as LSD is an intermediate in the procedure for the production of ETH-LAD, the possession of ETH-LAD, just as it was for Owsley and ALD-52, would imply possession of LSD, and thus a hefty jail sentence.

[trptamene]

maybe it's a legality thing.

Perhaps you gotta go through LSD but if doing another step gives u something to fall back on in court...perhaps its a new way to go about it...
the best would be having a route that does not go through LSD-25

[Panthers007]

There is still a little thing called the "Analogue Act" to take into consideration.

[trptamene]

Do UN agreements have analog legislation?

[Alfa]

Nope.

[Songcycle67]

According to Shulgin he stored a batch at below freezing in dark storage and within a few months the potency had been considerably reduced.

There's absolutely no way that someone would make a solid batch of LSD, convert it to ETH-LAD, only to put it on blotter that will let it degrade within a few days of relatively little exposure to the elements. Tabs and pills would also be rather useless in providing the amount of protection needed.

Unlike ALD-52, when ETH-LAD is exposed to the elements even for a small fraction of time it doesn't simply degrade to LSD (one of the bonuses of producing ALD-52). Instead it just degrades into water. This chemical, if it's being used, is being used by cooks themselves and their friends who are dipping straight from the jar--and even then they better be taking a shitload of it so that their work doesn't go to waste after a matter of months.

[raven3davis]

It doesn't hurt to dream.....

[Songcycle67]

When SWIM first read about it he dreamed a whole whole lot. If SWIY can find it, and if he hasn't taken it already, ALD comes fairly close to the description of ETH if you can get it before it degrades. He'll have to take twice the amount to illicit the same response from ALD, but it definitely provides that clarity and pronounced euphoria without so much tension.