Opinions - Molly (MDMA) and acid...

[durd123]

SWIM is on drug tests. They test for the standard 8 panel which doesn't include molly or acid. Should swim be worried about drugs at a festival he is going to having things that he could fail a drug test for in them. Swim means drugs like molly either not being molly or having other drugs in them.

[cannabis-sam]

LSD, certainly not, MDMA/ecstasy, could well have amphetamines, piperizines, and other things in it, but if it is reasonably pure MDMA it should be fine but due to the nature of street drugs you just don't know.

[durd123]

Thanks for the response. Swim has also read that ecstacy can make you fail for meth or amphetamines due to how chemically similar the two are. If so, does anyone have an idea of how long it would take to completely leave the system so meth and amphetamines would not show up as positive?

durd123 added 20 Minutes and 17 Seconds later...

Also forgot to mention it would be SWIM's first time doing ecstacy so would that affect how fast it would leave the system?

[electrolingus]

Originally Posted by durd123

Thanks for the response. Swim has also read that ecstacy can make you fail for meth or amphetamines due to how chemically similar the two are. If so, does anyone have an idea of how long it would take to completely leave the system so meth and amphetamines would not show up as positive.

Also forgot to mention it would be SWIM's first time doing ecstacy so would that affect how fast it would leave the system?

Positive UA results for methamphetamine generally indicate use within 1-4 days but could be up to a week following heavy chronic use. Rate of excretion into the urine is heavily influenced by urinary pH. Between 30-54% of an oral dose is excreted in urine as unchanged methamphetamine and 10-23% as unchanged amphetamine (slightly less when insulfated). Following an intravenous dose, 45% is excreted as unchanged methamphetamine and 7% amphetamine.

The average UA detection window for pure MDMA is 36 hours. MDMA is rapidly absorbed and the half-life of MDMA is ~ 7 hours. MDMA is metabolized to MDA which is the only metabolite reported in blood and plasma. MDA is further metabolized to its 3-hydroxy-4-methoxy and 3,4-dihydroxy derivatives (HMA and HHA). Additional MDMA metabolites include 3-hydroxy-4-methoxymethamphetamine (HMMA) and 3,4-dihydroxymethamphetamine (HHMA). These polar hydroxylated metabolites are conjugated prior to their excretion in urine. MDMA, MDA, HMMA, HHMA, HMA and HHA are typically found in urine following their hydrolysis. MDA and HMMA concentrations in urine are typically 10-15% of the corresponding MDMA concentrations. Using MDMA for the first time would have no bearing on how fast it will be metabolized.

[ex-junkie]

well really if its not a hair strand test, everything thats "usually" found amongst molly and acid, is out of your system in 2 days. shouldnt be a problem unless swiy is doing it regularly.

swim has tested clean to methamphetamines after less than 2 days.

[durd123]

Thanks for the reply! The test swim is taking is a standard 8 panel probation test. Tests for meth, barbs, benzos, opiates, thc, amphetamines, pcp, and one other im forgetting.

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Also, swim isn't really worried about the acid as the only thing that could really be in the doses would be research chemicals swim understands.