Injecting - For a good rush, where is best to inject?

[Wallet]

My friend has been injecting in the same vein in his arm for a couple weeks now. It is getting very noticable and he has to stop shooting there asap. What he wants now is another place on his body that isn't noticable where he can shoot but still get the same rush as he does when he shoots in the typical spot in his arm. He fears not getting a good rush when shooting in smaller veins. Any suggestions on other easy veins to hit?

[CrookedEye]

SWIM never noticed a difference in buzz/rush from using different veins, however, trying to hit smaller veins may be harder to get the full dose in without slipping out. Make sure to carefully inject if using smaller veins, so one doesn't slip out of the vein or end up missing the whole shot, altogether.

[Junkhead23]

Once a steady hand has been acquired while injecting it doesn't really go away. It just takes getting used to. Small veins give the same rush as the bigger ones. They say that ones in the feet though aren't as good because farther away from the heart.

[H Bomber]

SWIM find that if he uses, say, the large vein on the inside of his right ankle, the rush is diminished as compared to if he used the AC in the bend of his left elbow. It would seem that the diameter of the vein is not the issue (except as far as ease of use), but rather proximity to the heart and quality of circulation. An ankle is rather far from the heart, and legs also have notoriously poor circulation. An arm, particularly the left arm, is not only closer to the heart, but has good circulation. Of course, the reason veins are used is because they transport the shot to the heart to be circulated into the brain via the arteries.

SWIM has heard of people using the veins of the neck (yick) and getting a good rush by doing so. He has not done so and does not recommend it, but would be curious to hear of anyone else with experience doing it.

[east_of_eden]

Originally Posted by H Bomber

SWIM has heard of people using the veins of the neck (yick) and getting a good rush by doing so. He has not done so and does not recommend it, but would be curious to hear of anyone else with experience doing it.

Swim has used the vein in her neck but wouldn't recommend it, its not very safe and the rush isn't necessary better and on the down side, it tracked up quickly and looked horrible and swiny needs to hold their breath while doing it so the vein sticks out and they don't lose it.

swim once heard a story in NA about a guy shooting up in his neck in the car (while driving) and bending the needle and having it break off in his skin. he was able to pull it out luckily but if it would have gone into his blood stream i'm assuming that could've killed him.

^^ off topic, sorry but swim always thinks of that story when thinking about using the vein in the neck.

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by H Bomber

SWIM find that if he uses, say, the large vein on the inside of his right ankle, the rush is diminished as compared to if he used the AC in the bend of his left elbow. It would seem that the diameter of the vein is not the issue (except as far as ease of use), but rather proximity to the heart and quality of circulation. An ankle is rather far from the heart, and legs also have notoriously poor circulation. An arm, particularly the left arm, is not only closer to the heart, but has good circulation. Of course, the reason veins are used is because they transport the shot to the heart to be circulated into the brain via the arteries.

SWIM has heard of people using the veins of the neck (yick) and getting a good rush by doing so. He has not done so and does not recommend it, but would be curious to hear of anyone else with experience doing it.

SWIM always had a theory that the right arm was better than the left arm for shooting.

If SWIM is correct, when someone has a heart attack their left arm goes numb because that is where the heart outputs to first. Right?

Wouldn't it follow then that the left arm would be "further away" circulatory-wise from the heart than the right arm?

Just throwin out some theories here.

[H Bomber]

Originally Posted by dyingtomorrow

SWIM always had a theory that the right arm was better than the left arm for shooting.

If SWIM is correct, when someone has a heart attack their left arm goes numb because that is where the heart outputs to first. Right?

Wouldn't it follow then that the left arm would be "further away" circulatory-wise from the heart than the right arm?

Just throwin out some theories here.

To be honest, SWIM was just basing his preference for the left arm on anecdotal evidence, personal experience, the fact that the heart is left-center oriented, that heart attack / numbness thing, and, possibly the most biased reason, because he is right handed. He thinks he also might have read somewhere that left worked better, but at the moment he cannot locate the proper documentation.

SWIM doesn't follow SWIY's logic that it would be "further away circulatory-wise" please explain.

So he guess's it's mostly a matter preference when it comes to the arms. Can they agree that the legs are slow as fuck though?

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by H Bomber

To be honest, SWIM was just basing his preference for the left arm on anecdotal evidence, personal experience, the fact that the heart is left-center oriented, that heart attack / numbness thing, and, possibly the most biased reason, because he is right handed. He thinks he also might have read somewhere that left worked better, but at the moment he cannot locate the proper documentation.

SWIM doesn't follow SWIY's logic that it would be "further away circulatory-wise" please explain.

So he guess's it's mostly a matter preference when it comes to the arms. Can they agree that the legs are slow as fuck though?

There's some reason why the left arm goes numb with a heart attack having to do with the circulatory system SWIM believes - SWIM was basically seeing if anyone knew the reason and if it would demonstrate some impact on whether the left or right arm was better to shoot.

[H Bomber]

Originally Posted by dyingtomorrow

There's some reason why the left arm goes numb with a heart attack having to do with the circulatory system SWIM believes - SWIM was basically seeing if anyone knew the reason and if it would demonstrate some impact on whether the left or right arm was better to shoot.

This is the best SWIM could come up with-
"The cardinal sign of decreased blood flow to the heart (as in Myocardial infarction) is chest pain experienced as tightness around the chest and radiating to the left arm and the left angle of the jaw."

Its actually harder than SWIM thought it would be to locate the exact mechanism through which a heart attack causes its hallmark numbing of the left arm.

So SWIY is completely right in his guess that it had a correlation with the circulatory system itself. SWIM's guess was that the reason it was affecting the left arm specifically was because when the heart shut down it might cause the circulating blood to 'back up' in areas closest to the end of its circuit through the body, hence the pain in the chest, left angle of the jaw (jugular?), and left arm. SWIM chose to interpret this possibility as an indication that things put into the left arm may well get to the heart faster. Of course, this is all just speculation and assumption on SWIM's part, but it could be possible that this is the case.

[tourniquet]

Originally Posted by H Bomber

SWIM find that if he uses, say, the large vein on the inside of his right ankle, the rush is diminished as compared to if he used the AC in the bend of his left elbow. It would seem that the diameter of the vein is not the issue (except as far as ease of use), but rather proximity to the heart and quality of circulation. An ankle is rather far from the heart, and legs also have notoriously poor circulation. An arm, particularly the left arm, is not only closer to the heart, but has good circulation. Of course, the reason veins are used is because they transport the shot to the heart to be circulated into the brain via the arteries.

SWIM has heard of people using the veins of the neck (yick) and getting a good rush by doing so. He has not done so and does not recommend it, but would be curious to hear of anyone else with experience doing it.

SWIM is shooting in her neck veins for more than an year now, 7-8 months in the external jugular and now moved on to the Internal Jugular. The high is better...Coz of the best circulation and closeness to heart you get in no other place. The needle tracks are needle tracks and they look like shit wherever they are. The neck veins are really really BIG, so they will last a good while.
Plus, normal people wouldnt imagine that mark on your neck is from injecting, not as easily as they would notice the mark on swiys arms, just coz it's a pretty uncommon practice even among junkies, let alone normal people imagining swius actually stick needles in their throats lol.

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[RaverHippie]

Originally Posted by Wallet

My friend has been injecting in the same vein in his arm for a couple weeks now. It is getting very noticable and he has to stop shooting there asap. What he wants now is another place on his body that isn't noticable where he can shoot but still get the same rush as he does when he shoots in the typical spot in his arm. He fears not getting a good rush when shooting in smaller veins. Any suggestions on other easy veins to hit?

All blood is circulated in the body in less than 10 seconds. If you can't wait that long then I have worries for your self-discipline . On a serious note find a series of veins which are easy to hit and rotate between them.

[joshua666]

Swim hasent found much different in the rush, interms of speed or power but...
Swims right arm is way easy to hit in the big vein that goes up the arm...
Swim has also used the left arm and forarm,wich are a bit harder to hit then the right...somtimes the rush seems the same and other times it seems like the rush from the right arm is some how stronger...not sure how or why but swim is willing to bet 75 percent of the time,the right arm just works better/faster and provides a better rush...weird...
Swim has thought about trying a neck vein on a couple of ocasions but always got scared,lol...but swim imagines it would be easy as hell to hit and could imagine that it would provide a stronger rush/quicker ect...

[msmogadon]

SWIM finds that if she uses a vein that has not been used before it seems to give a better come on than the usual ones. But that's just SWIM and she's a weird one

[Spucky]

This is a very philosophic question,
because what means a "good rush"?

Do swiny have a Instant-Karma or do he believe in quality?

Look, my Cat believe in long-Term relationship, covered by Harm Reduction
to have a "good Rush" even after 25 Years of IV.-Abuse!
She will throw H. away/ or smoke it (now, after she is not addicted anymore )
if she can`t hit a "Healthy surface Vein".
It can`t be a "good Rush" if swiny have to hit a inner Deep-Vein
with all the related Risks even if the H. reach the Brain a few milliseconds earlyer!

SWIM is shooting in her neck veins for more than an year now, 7-8 months in the external jugular and now moved on to the Internal Jugular. The high is better...Coz of the best circulation and closeness to heart you get in no other place. .

My Cat becomes very upset when she read a myth like that!
That Vein is a absolute "No-Go", even a Doc will chose that Vein only in a Emergency!
The Mu- and Kappa Receptor is not located inside of our Heart.

In her career my Cat virtually hit all Veins, she can say after that experience that a "good Rush"
is not related to the Fix-Point, it depends fully on the quality of the Stuff and even more on the Setting!

[tourniquet]

Originally Posted by Spucky

This is a very philosophic question,
because what means a "good rush"?

Do swiny have a Instant-Karma or do he believe in quality?

Look, my Cat believe in long-Term relationship, covered by Harm Reduction
to have a "good Rush" even after 25 Years of IV.-Abuse!
She will throw H. away/ or smoke it (now, after she is not addicted anymore )
if she can`t hit a "Healthy surface Vein".
It can`t be a "good Rush" if swiny have to hit a inner Deep-Vein
with all the related Risks even if the H. reach the Brain a few milliseconds earlyer!

My Cat becomes very upset when she read a myth like that!
That Vein is a absolute "No-Go", even a Doc will chose that Vein only in a Emergency!
The Mu- and Kappa Receptor is not located inside of our Heart.

In her career my Cat virtually hit all Veins, she can say after that experience that a "good Rush"
is not related to the Fix-Point, it depends fully on the quality of the Stuff and even more on the Setting!

Could your Cat please explain to my stupid monkey how could it be a myth when it's my own monkey's experience?

[Spucky]

Originally Posted by tourniquet

Could your Cat please explain to my stupid monkey how could it be a myth when it's my own monkey's experience?

Hmmm,
do swiny use his own Body-Pressure and stop Breathing until
the Gun is properly inside of the Vein?