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Old 30-05-2009, 11:48
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SWIM is an idiot …but let’s start from the beginning and you’ll see what he means.

SWIM was a curious guy and not the most stable person of all,most of his life he spent swimming trough anxiety,depression and sometimes strangly elated moods.It comes as only naturally that he tried to find something to bring him to baseline.Psychedelics where the most promising step towards normalcy he felt.

So,after researching ayahuasca he decided to try it,because it was easy to get and it seemed to hold much promise for change.This wasn’t his first journey with it,he actually tested the waters before diving in,but what he found in the depths was more then he bargained for.

Preparation
After much research he decided that the diet got to much credit for what it actually was,so he ignored it,and he is glad to say,without ill effect.After 2 hours from his main meal that day he parachuted 3 g Syrian rue,waited 30-45 minutes to see if there would be anything wrong and drank a tea made from 2,5 g of mexican mimosa.The key in avoiding getting sick here is strange-milk.Yes milk.He just added some milk to the tea.The milk instantly precipitated-a good sign as it was binding the tanins that would otherwise cause the emesis.So he drank this brew…it tasted bad…but he got it down.

The eye-candy
The trip was fantastic…and not to strong,he could still navigate reality quite succsefully and he saw and felt the beauty of the world.It was wonderfully orgasmic and one of the best experiences SWIM had.The hallucinations consisted of intricate patterns,wonderflully coloured motifs that seemed to be stemming from the folcloric conciousness of humanity.Rooms changed the lightning if he stared long enough and the whole room vibrated and shook.One of the srangest things he saw was in himself. When looking in the mirror he saw his face like that of man,dead for a long time.It got a blueish tint to,like being deprived of oxygen,and looked as though it was brittle and long dryed out by decomposition.

The horror and the king
SWIM began to come down.And as he did so he wanted to change into something more comfortable,so he got undressed,put on a pair of pants and still without a shirt on looked into a mirror.There he was,with his flesh dying,covered with tiny veins and getting blue.But he was still young,in his prime…he was strong. He breath in an momentarely got his vigour and look back,while breathing out his flesh turned blue and old again.But this could not be,he was the king o humanity and it all did not matter,he could do anything,because all that he did was right he being the warrior-king.Some time while dancing half-naked in front of his large window it dawned upon him that this was a pretty big delusion.So what?It wasn’t a bad delusion.he could still function on it,even better,or could he not?Well,from here on as all can imagine things went down-hill fast.He lost all points of refrence in his life because nothing seemed to be real anymore,everything was a delusion.The funny thing is that it all came in waves.Waves of euphoria and feeling like all was ok and waves of madness where the voice in his had would go crazy and start rambling in 3 different tones about how everything was wrong and all was lost.Mind you,this was not an external voice,but rather his own voice gone on some scared talking-frenzy.He has a deep sympathy and understanding of people hearing voices now.Anyway,he began craving his girlfriend, craving something warm and welcoming,craving love and friendship.In an desperate atempt to calm down he began a CWE on some codeine but decide half-way that a glass of scotch would be much quicker in bringing him down.And long story short,down it brought him.

Conclusion
So, thank you for reading this monster,SWIM would much appreciate if anyone showing the patience of reading so far would give some insight,he could really use it as he is still a bit shaken by it all.
What he learned?Three things really:
-harmala-alkaloids are not MAOI’s,check into it,they are quite safe if you don’t eat a kg of cheese and wash it down with wine or are not on some medications
-milk will bind tanins and you won’t get sick,there still was some nausea but he couldn’t throw up,and yes he tried
-don’t be a cocky bastard,or just don’t be a cocky bastard and try ayahuasca,it will send you crying to your mother
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Re: Mimosahuasca-disonsidering the diet,how not to throw up and insanity

First off I'd like to start with a

BIG WAG OF MY FINGER (please visualize it)

These diets and restrictions are there for a reason. The precautions taken, or shall I say lack of, were a clear statement of lack of research and sensibility. Syrian Rue works precisely like an MAOI and as such the SAME precautions must be take. The reason it is less of a concern on Rue is that it temporarily stops the MAO instead of destroying like prescription MAOIs. And the milk idea... please nobody try this. Dairy is a specific food that is supposed to be avoided and fasted from. Also eating a FULL meal 2 hours before the trip... Tsk Tsk my friend. The fasting has a variety of reasons, all of which are important.

I'll list a few;
1- Certain diet restrictions are mandatory.
2- The digestive tracts and stomach are empty, minimizing or stopping negative side-effects such as Nausea, Diarreah, and Cramping.
3- DMT is no drug. It is a spiritual experience and as such should be prepared for in a spiritual fashion. Fasting prepares the body and mind for a mind-blowing experience.

Remember, while you may not *feel* the negative health effects of consuming incorrect foods while on an MAOI, there are reasons for these diets. The damage you had done may be small, but it could have been avoided...


As for the insight... The way I sees it the DMT told you rather clear you fucked up. Continue that path and you will soon resemble the creature you saw in your mirror. DMT speaks to you and you must listen. For instance all SWIM could see for 3 trips was a wall of geometry, this was because the DMT knew he was not ready for this. As SWIM progressed spiritually the wall dissapeared and an entire new world was opened up.

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don’t be a cocky bastard,or just don’t be a cocky bastard and try ayahuasca,it will send you crying to your mother
Exactly. Now live by your words. You aren't invincible so don't be confident (cocky) that you will be alright even though you don't follow the same procedure people have for hundreds of years.


As for the nausea... This was caused by your lack of preperation. SWIM has never purged while on DMT tea or Pharmuasca and has learned to completely avoid nausea. I do hope you removed the nut from the syrian rue, as that causes much nausea in itself.

(fasting, in DMT case, does not mean restrictions from all foods, only a certain few. SWIM likes to eat fruit for a day [no bananas])
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Re: Mimosahuasca-disonsidering the diet,how not to throw up and insanity

Thanks for the response,I really appreciate it,and yes you are mostly right in what you say. I may have come off wrong from my previous post,I did not go trough all of this mainly because I was looking for a way to see pretty colours and have a fun time. I wanted healing,and to some degree it brought me that.

I understand where you are coming from with the spiritual view on this substance,it is just that I do not share it,I like to view the world as solid,at least to the degree that we can percive it and ascending to a higher state of being right now is not on my list of priorities I just would like to navigate the place we live in the best I can.

Regarding the diet,yes you are right but only half-way.I to feel it is important to fast before such an experience but mainly for spiritual reasons and as a way of preparing for what is to come.Harmala alkaloids act as MAOI’s as you said but the thing is that they have a lower affinity for the enzyme than tyrosine,so when it comes around the alkaloid simply gets pushed away.This being said I do not advise anyone to try this,just because some guy on the internet did and was fine and keep in mind there may still be some other interactions besides tyrosine.

After a lot of pondering what I actually got from this trip is that we all are powerful and unique beings in our own little world,but all that will pass so it is up to you what you make of it.
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