Experiences - How did swim decide?

[SmokeNmirrors]

How did swim decide that he or she was going to give heroin a try? Or even more in depth if swiy moved up to the needle how was that decision made?

Swim would say for him after trying pretty much everything and doing lots of research when searching for the best high that heroin always came in 1st, swim isn't a fan of uppers unless its a speedball. So that is what made swim give it a try. Why swim went to the needle after only snorting H two times was he heard from anyone who did it that IV was the best way and swim obviously agrees being addicted for almost 2 years. Swim isn't happy with his life now from the the things he has lost because of dope but was even more unhappy and hating life without it.

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[Hapworth]

SWIM drank in his twenties and discovered pills in his early thirties and liked that fact that his drinking diminished once he switched to pharms. SWIM suddenly realized that opiates were his best fit. It took him five years to finally find an H connect (January of this year), though he had been eagerly wishing to try it for a long time. As for the needle, that decision was easy for SWIM. SWIM is an atypical opiate user. Opiates stimulate him more than make him nod out, and he has always been underwhelmed by snorting or popping opiate pills. The first time SWIM snorted H, he was also underwhelmed. Much like oxy snorted, H made him feel cloudy-headed and lethargic. But shooting is a whole different story. First, SWIM loved the rush: exhilirating, pleasurable. Second, SWIM felt like he literally and figuratively received "a shot in the arm." Suddenly, SWIM was ready to attack life, keep up with his kids, communicate with his wfie. So the needle was an easy decision, and SWIM does not regret it one iota. The hardest part was that SWIM didn't have a buddy who shot up, so SWIM had to learn the process of prepping a shot and adminstering the injection all on his own.

[dkmonk]

Well after doing pills, and knowing heroin was the best opiate swim was like swim got to have this. Problem was for like 2 years swim didnt know were to get it then when swim was 18 my friends started selling it so swim snorted it and was let down.

So for my second time swim was like well swim going to do it the way the drug is suppose to be done then swim found god in a needle.

[Junkhead23]

After pacman did near enough every drug known to man he hadn't tried heroin. His friend had started to take it and he decided to give it a go.

The thing is as well at the time he said to said friend as he was about to take it 'this is one of them moments in life when you should probably think about what you are doing and not do it' and then preceded to smoke it anyway.

He got on the needle because the heroin just wasn't working anymore when insufflated

[ex-junkie]

swim was into amphetamines and acid in her teens, she had a couple of good mates who smoked heroin, and she tried a few dots but didnt get much out of it tbh. fast forward a couple of years, and her bf at the times father was moving alot of heroin. her bf had gotten a heroin habit without swim realizing.

she tried it a couple of times with him IV, but didnt really like it. he was a prick when he took it, so she liked to try to avoid that! he was particularly cruel if swim had stopped to throw her gutz up somewhere, and impatiently cursed her whilst she was chucking. jeesh.

anyways this guy kept showing up more frequently with heroin, and at the time she didnt have much amphetamines accessible to her, so she would use a little smack. erm it made her amphetamine urges disappear yes, but what a fucker of a drug to replace them with.

in hindsight, swim would have had a lot of trouble quitting amphetamines, so if she hadnt spent those 7 years on heroin, she would probably have aged herself tremendously, and would probably be still on them. quitting the needle is hard.

swim is grateful that she never injected methamphetamines, otherwise she would probably still be on them. she partook in methamphetamine use after the heroin for about 18 months.

so yeah. lolz. long post.

[joshua666]

Swim started way way back in high school...started smoking bud..all day everday...it was fun... It dident take long but a couple party's to become an full blown alchoholic,even had mom bringing swim to the liquier store to pick out what ever he wanted 3-4 times a week besides all the beer swim drank weekly...
Then swim got into psychedelics..shrooms/acid/ect....
So swim got online and started reading everything he ever could on anything and everything,drug wise....
Swim tried just about everything...lots and lots of times...everything but meth and heroin....
So a couple years ago swim tried a half a bag of dope,just snorting it...it was the best thing ever!
By this time narcotics were his favorite,and swim stoped smoking and drinking and just did pills ect...
After a year of snorting heroin,the budy swim got it through told him all about shooting,swim was very scared of needles but read about it for hours and hours...well one day after getting a gram of dope...swim went and bought some needles....and started with a tiny bit on a spoon...1/4-1/2 bag...that was all it took!!!
That made swim re-live the first exsperiance with dope but even more so...everything was just perfect...and shooting and hitting veins wasent hard at all for swim...although somtimes harder then others...
Swim must say that the needle gave swim a new outlook on narcotics and now hydromorphome is swim all time favorite

[BrownStreakRailroad]

as others have said, for SWIM it was the last drug on the list to try. its about the barriers SWIY set SWIY'rself, for SWIM as a youth he started using cannabis and speed and LSD shortly after. Ecstacy was the next level but as it was recieving bad press at the time due to Leah Bates dying from too much water, he was reluctant to try it. Peer group pressure is a bitch and it is this that broke down nearly all the barriers that SWIM put in place for himself, but out of SWIM's group of friends he was the one always trying stuff first, being the guinea pig as it was his older friends who had made the drugs accessable and desirable. once ecstacy had been taken, cocaine shortly followed. this left crack and heroin at the top of the pile which SWIM would never touch. one new years eve SWIM gave his coke dealer some money to get some, he never came with the goods and days later called and stated he could not get coke and he did not have the money, but he did have crack, which according to him was the ''same as coke anyway, you just smoke it''. smoking this broke the final barrier SWIM had laid down and a week later the big H was no longer the big bad drug that SWIM would never do, but something he was inhaling and chasing on the foil with four of his best friends.

[chillinwill]

Red Rock tried it with his girlfriend at the time (who later died from an OD). She was already a heroin addict and Red Rock had never tried it before (although he had tried other opiates). He snorted just a little bit and didn't even like it because he was vomiting and nauseated. 4-6 weeks later after he kept on doing it, his tolerance grew and it became too expensive for him to keep up his habit at that time just snorting it. He moved to the needle and that was all she wrote there....Red Rock fell in love with the euphoria and how cheap it was since he could make it last much longer. Little did he know that once his tolerance grew, it would become much, much more expensive then before.

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Knowledgable factual and good advice.

[SmokeNmirrors]

Originally Posted by BrownStreakRailroad

as others have said, for SWIM it was the last drug on the list to try. its about the barriers SWIY set SWIY'rself, for SWIM as a youth he started using cannabis and speed and LSD shortly after. Ecstacy was the next level but as it was recieving bad press at the time due to Leah Bates dying from too much water, he was reluctant to try it. Peer group pressure is a bitch and it is this that broke down nearly all the barriers that SWIM put in place for himself, but out of SWIM's group of friends he was the one always trying stuff first, being the guinea pig as it was his older friends who had made the drugs accessable and desirable. once ecstacy had been taken, cocaine shortly followed. this left crack and heroin at the top of the pile which SWIM would never touch. one new years eve SWIM gave his coke dealer some money to get some, he never came with the goods and days later called and stated he could not get coke and he did not have the money, but he did have crack, which according to him was the ''same as coke anyway, you just smoke it''. smoking this broke the final barrier SWIM had laid down and a week later the big H was no longer the big bad drug that SWIM would never do, but something he was inhaling and chasing on the foil with four of his best friends.

Swim completely agrees with the Guinea pig part swim was always the first of his friends to try something new and slowly kept breaking barriers and rules/morals he swore never to break.

[dyingtomorrow]

SWIM hated his day to day life (and life in general since he was very young), and would basically do anything to escape reality and himself. He had tried most other drugs at that point, and stumbled across it through his brothers friend. After trying it once SWIM knew he had found exactly what he needed to function in life, and lived a highly successful 2 years from that point on, before financially crashing.

[SmokeNmirrors]

Swim agrees his life is bad now because of finances and with his family but also not having it put swim in the worst metal state even if he is past the withdrawal.

[BumpBump]

swims best mate started selling it. Swim had always enjoyed pretty much every drug he tried, and he always said he would try them all.... swim smoked it.
Swim had already done amph sulphate IV, so he wanted to know what everything was like IV lol swim was facinated with the idea of instant rush... and oh boy did he get it!

[Venusia]

SWIM has never used H, but has seriously considered it whenever her pain pills for her chronic pain are gone, not working well enough or are screwed up in the process of obtaining them (like a gap in coverage causing her to almost be close to serious withdrawal due to being unable to afford them at retail prices). These things have made SWIM think, if only I had H to make my pain better, I could get it cheaper and possibly more reliably than pills in case of a lack of insurance. Those has been the only times SWIM has considered taking it, so that would probably be what would make her decide to start.

[dyingtomorrow]

Originally Posted by venusia

SWIM has never used H, but has seriously considered it whenever her pain pills for her chronic pain are gone, not working well enough or are screwed up in the process of obtaining them (like a gap in coverage causing her to almost be close to serious withdrawal due to being unable to afford them at retail prices). These things have made SWIM think, if only I had H to make my pain better, I could get it cheaper and possibly more reliably than pills in case of a lack of insurance. Those has been the only times SWIM has considered taking it, so that would probably be what would make her decide to start.

Probably half the heroin junkies SWIM knows started off on oxycotin pain management and then found out how much more effective and cheaper heroin is. It's ironic that the black market, selling an illegal "pain medication," has managed to function more efficiently, DESPITE even having billions of dollars a year spent in a TOTAL WAR against it, than our supposedly capitalist pharmaceutical industry which has billions of dollars spent by the government to AID it. Makes ya wonder ...

[cra$h]

swim is dying to make that leap. vicodine is expensive, and has to take the time for a CWE, oxy is HELLA expensive, and morphine just isn't around. Heroin is the only thing left, but already swim's seing his morals and life slip into a typical junkie story, you know, the kid that had everything until lady H came along. But since swim's tolerance is pretty damn low, a bag could last forever, just like opium had, but opium's not around either. It's pretty much money based, and the only thing holding swim back is turning away friends, family, and swim's very grim financial situation.

[surftube]

Swim started using oxycontin after 2 years of chronic major depression and living with a highly distressing mental condition. None of the SSRI's, benzos, or other things swim has tried worked so he decided to give OC a go. After a while of using OC swim tried heroin and preferred it. Swim has a phobia of needles and has never shot up, and hopes he never will.

[xxdan123xx]

some Swims friends started doing it, and when they started he started using oxy. Well swim got hooked and then his oc connect went to jail . So know he is sick as can be lol or so he though and suddenly H doesn't seem so bad. His friend hooked him up with some for free and bam switched over to H instantly. It was a few weeks before he got his own connect but he is very resoursful and found someone actually 3-4 different people within walking distance. So he was addicted to sniffing. One day he found a needle in his house and gave it a try just because he thought he wouldn't be able to get another needle. He tried it loved it and broke the needle and went back to insuffation. but eventually he told a friend about this and his friend went into his house cameout with 2 needles and said "you'll hit me right?" So we did it and this time was just as good if not better. THe next day swim and his friend did it again same story as any one never went back to sniffing.

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Thanks for sharing this. Many people share swiy story and have been on H because of the OC

[sianny]

hey, i'm really new to this forum and stupidly wanted to ask what SWIM means?
if someone could let me know i'd appreciate it.

[chillinwill]

Please see
About the use of SWIM and alternatives

Noob Survival Guide: Drugs-Forum 101

"Do not self incriminate, even if it's legal for you" - I'm confused

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	Thanks for the links. Very helpful, esp #3. Much appreciated!
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[rokman nash]

As most of these stories start out,my friend developed a huge pill habit.He would take as many as 50 vics a day if there was no oxy available(insane, he knows). An acquaintance found out how many pills Dave was taking, and suggested that he try H. She claimed it was not as hard on the liver.Dave tried it(only snorted/smoked) and from that day forward, it became a daily thing. The only problem was that it didn't replace the pills, only augmented them.

So now Dave is taking vics, oxy, and H.Not necessarily all at the same time, but usually at least 2 of the above.The only bright spot was that he never IV'd H (thank goodness), but the double, and sometimes triple dipping took its toll very quickly.

He did all three for about 6 months before coming to his senses, and subsequently making a change.


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[Venusia]

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