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I was just wondering what the opinions of the most visual research chem might be. Not looking for some OBE or anything, just wondering what causes some nice OEV/CEV's. Thanks //Moracca |
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2-CT-2, 2-CT-7, and 2-CE have all been reported as having very intense visual effects. Others also are known to elicit such, but these are the ones that most folkshave stated are the most visual for most people. MOST. Not all. Regardless: Do Not Ingest and Operate Heavy Machinery!
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2CI too, these visuals are colorful and warm.
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amongst the local lab rats, 2C-E and 4-HO-MiPT vie for top honours. that said, 2C-E was described as a much heavier trip.Edited by: nanobrain
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The only 2c I have experimented with was 2c-e and it is the most visual substance Swim has yet to use. 4-ho-det is nearly just as visual as 2c-e, it has a very colorfully sparkliness to it. At the dosages swim takes of 4-ho-det it is just as visual, swim kind of enjoys it more than 2c-e but his dosages are rather high he went through 500mgs in 1.5-2.5 months. The 4-ho-det dosages swim used where eyeballed he estimates using 25mgs when starting and as he got more used to the chemical up to 60mgs. Swim would never recommend eyeing out doses but was very comfortable with the substance.
Most likely people will be more impressed with 2c-e as a visual RC. For swim they both have wonderfully unique OEV's/CEV's. |
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Well there was that little mistake I made one night and 3mg. of pure Sandoz LSD25 went down. That was certainly visual! But LSD25 is not an RC anymore. 2-CE remains unknown to my pet Orangutan, but it dwells in the freezer...soon....
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^3000 mikes, thats bordering on thumbprint dose. how long were you gone?
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I entered the "white light" in about 20 minutes. No knowledge of time for about 8 hours. I could function again in around 12 hour hours, but was still very much effected for around 18 hours. Then sleep. Fine after that. Silly me.
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Anyone able to report on the visual stimulation of 4HO-DiPT? Swim
was interested in purchasing some, but maybe he should also buy some 2CE. I'll be sure to let him know. Thanks moracca |
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^ 4-HO-DIPT is visually good, right up there, nice paisley/fractal
CEV's and swimming, morphing, persian-carpet OEV's. Perhaps two-thirds as potent overall as 4-HO-MIPT, and a tad less inherently visual. But it has other stuff going for it: a magical euphoria, a real tendency to silly outrageousness and mirth, especally with music. In those respects it surpasses 4-HO-MIPT. These two 4-HO's are two great tastes that taste great together, BTW; effects are simply additive and neither seems to inhibit or potentiate the other. 2C-D at higher (90-110 mg or so) doses is also highly visual (some report more flowing neon landscape CEV's, less geometric) and about as short-lived at 4-HO-DIPT. And 2C-E, really visual, no doubt about it. Last edited by gn2osis; 07-05-2008 at 08:28. |
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SWIM has found 2C-I to be the most visually stunning material he has used. Mainly because SWIMhas beenable to push up the dose of 2C-I with little worry. One time SWIM and two friend's each ate 50mg of 2C-I. SWIM's vision was covered in rainbowish patterns and everything was moving. SWIM was not able to tell if something was actualy moving or not. 2C-E may be inherintly more visual, but SWIM would be weary about pushing the dose up so high. LSD takes a close second, again because one can take a lot of it. Sloppo |
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Most visual where legal, LSD, Mushrooms, Mescaline, smoked DMT. RC's-
High doses of 2CB, 2CI, 4-HO-MIPT. |
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That means where not legal, the visuals are nonexistent .... e.g. they're invisible? Rather poetic.... ![]() *<!-- var SymRealOnLoad; var SymReal; Sym() { window.open = SymWinOpen; if(SymReal != null) SymReal(); } SymOnLoad() { if(SymRealOnLoad != null) SymRealOnLoad(); window.open = SymRealWinOpen; SymReal = window.; window. = Sym; } SymRealOnLoad = window.onload; window.onload = SymOnLoad; //--> |
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Of course when discussing visuals one shouldn't forget synaesthesia, and the effect of hearing colours, seeing sounds etc. For me the two best synaesthetic drugs are 2C-B and 4-HO-DIPT. The latter is particularly wonderful and even involves the merging of a third sense, that of touch, so I can see/hear/feel music all at the same time - an experience sofantastic the recollection of it has me almost in tears!
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4-HO-DIPT is my favorite RC for visuals. Very fun oevs and cevs, with much patterning and overall funkyness.
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The most visually intense RC would have to be 5-meo-amt without a doubt. Eaten many a tab, and much fresh fungus, but surprisingly was throughly impressed with amt visuals. Almost a mix of acid and mushroom visuals, but with more variety of colors, very liquid, extremely intense and geometric. Be careful with this stuff, it can easily throw u into a pyschedlic trance overwhelmed with geometric patterns. A cliched pyschedelic soup if i may. Body load sucked, but definitly the most visually satisfying, compared with lsd, mush, 2ct7,mesc,dxm or any other trippy drug out there. |
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For me it's 2Ci (30 mg)
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2c-i was the most intense eye candy ive come across, 2c-b comes very close visually but the trip is much nicer.
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Similar results found here. The 4-HO-MiPT seemed to be much more pleasurable to the lab rats than the did the 2C-E. Reports say they highly visual, though. |
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Agreed 100%, although this is heavily dose dependant for swim. Small (well, normal)doses produced psilocin like visuals whereas a large (10mg) dose rivals vaporised N,N-DMT for visual intensity. Larger doses are even better. You know you're out there when you can't see through the visuals.Edited by: piperazine |
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the most visual rc's swim has enjoyed would be 2ci and 2ct2. 2ci (about 22mgs) is visual but yu do have to concetrate to see them, they don't seem to just jump out there at ya. 2ct2 was a little stronger visually (around 18-20 mgs) but the body load was not as comfortable.swim doesn't mean like uncomfortable physically, more menatlly. he says that he would feel very stoned for awhile and then very staight for several minutes, as though he wasn't really enjoying himself. He thinks 2ci is better becauseit seems to have amore constant flow of euphoria.
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Out of the people i know and rcs i tried, i enjoyed 2ci alot, because there wasnt alot of focus on your body, it was all mental...and if you just sat back and relaxed, the visuals would just flow, its very amusing. especially when you was lookin at something colorful! of couse the occasional smoke of your favorite green herb helps too
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