Overdose - information on cocaine overdoses

[billy1nk]

Swim is about to inject a large amount of cocaine and would like to make sure he is not OD'ing. The amount is approximately 150 mg of cocaine. He just shot up about 75 mg and got a throat rush similar to the same one he got when he OD'd on meth where it kind of feels like you're being strangled for a couple seconds. The 75 mg shot gave swim a little nausea but felt good and gave him ear ringing but no flash. Swim's friend says the 150 mg shot should produce great ear ringing and a bright flash. That is what swim is aiming for. Swim does not mind OD'ing he just doesn't want to end up in the hospital. He is comfortable with puking and can control himself to not have a heart attack or stroke. Swim is a common heroin user and has strong opiate tolerance. He did a lot of heroin last night and shot up a couple hours ago. He is not sure if this is speed balling but he feels he has come down from the heroin so he thinks he should be safe. Swim doesn't really have uppers tolerance as he does not regurarly do cocaine or meth. Swim is 6'3" and 170 pounds in pretty good health and shape. What are swim's chances of OD'ing? Swim has only OD'd once on a 300 mg shot of meth. He is not sure how pure the meth was and how much of the 300 mg was actual meth but it caused him to OD. He just had palpatations, puked like 10 times, felt like shit for a few days, but generally was ok and didn't realize he OD'd until the next day. Swim just doesn't want to go to the hospital tonight. If swim does OD aside from remaining calm and keeping his heart beat level, what should swim do if this happens? What are the symptoms of a cocaine over dose and at what point is it necessary that swim goes to the hospital. Also swim plans on using his heroin to come down off the cocaine later, how many hours should swim wait after last cocaine injection before it's safe to use heroin without risking his heart stopping?

[100mg Methylphenidate]

That's ignorant. Very very ignorant. That's a huge leap in dosage and there's more to avoiding a heart attack or stroke than just calming yourself down. When swim overdosed on methylphenidate, he lost control. He couldn't control his heart any further. Swiy can't control vasoconstriction or seizures on his own either. That's just dumb. I'm not aware of the bioavailability of insufflated cocaine, but swiy may wish to look into that.

[billy1nk]

Swim didn't say you can calm down and completely avoid a heart attack, stroke, or seisure. Swim said that it simply helps and when he OD'd on meth that's what he did. If you are OD'ing on the drug then having a panic attack can cause the worse OD symptoms leading to death while if you calm down you can avoid the panic attack and not die. Swim mostly just asked a lot of questions in his post and doesn't see how he was percieved as ignorant. Asking questions is not ignorant. Sitting here rattling off false facts as if I know what I'm talking about is. Therefor, I believe you are ignorant about ignorance. GOT'EM

Anyway, swim injected the 150 mg of cocaine and was fine for the most part. He got the weird throat strangulation feeling followed by intense ear ringing for a minute followed by extreme nausea and puking. Swim hung out in his room for about thirty minutes to an hour listening to music and playing online games then injected the rest of the cocaine which was approximately 200+ mg. This brought on even more intense ear ringing and vomiting by still failed to get the flash effect.

Swim is going to wait until his heart beat slows down and then inject heroin until he can fall asleep. Swim is buying an 8 ball of heroin cut with morphine tomorrow afternoon, who's jealous?

And next time swim come's on a forum asking for advice to not OD, simply give him the advice rather then sit there and call him ignorant. It's a waste of time I'm simply trying to be safe about my drug use which is what this site is for. There is no need to be an asshole.

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[100mg Methylphenidate]

"Swim does not mind OD'ing he just doesn't want to end up in the hospital. He is comfortable with puking and can control himself to not have a heart attack or stroke."

I'm not trying to start an argument with you. It's just that original statement is pretty 'not smart'. Nothing you do at a certain dose is going to control a seizure. And even if your heart is going 180bpm and you're controlling your breathing and trying to relax, your blood vessels are still contricted and your blood pressure is probably way too high to consider remotely safe. Overdosing to any degree is dangerous, and if swiy is willing to push his limit on dosages, it would be wise to lay off for a while and let his tolerance drop.

With stimulants especially, ones mental tolerance grows much faster than the physical one. It is very possible to overdose and not get as high as desired.

I'm sorry you took my post so personally. And I'm glad swiy made it out okay. I don't wish an overdose upon anyone. Otherwise, I wouldn't have even bothered posting here.

[Benga]

second that. stimulant overdoses are often quite drastic, and it's easily possible to reach a state where little can be done. because swiyou had a "lucky" overdose on meth is no reason to state that swiyou doesn't mind overdosing on cocaine, and just doesn't want to have a stroke or heart attack. it's a little more complex than that as i'm sure you know, so please rethink this whole approach and lower those doses.


I.V. Cocaine Overdose

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[Fight Club]

OP - glad to hear that you are OK. Your approach was a bit reckless, but your questions are good. Without knowing the purity of your coke, and a bunch of other factors, no one can say what amount of IV cocaine would produce a life-threatening OD.

NIK has injected as much as much as .4 g of relatively pure (washed) coke and fished around a bit without any other ill effects. He once injected .5 g and had a grand mal seizure which ended in cardiac arrest and near death. He was kept alive by CPR until EMTs arrived. If he had been alone (which he usually was) when he slammed that dose, he would not be alive today.

NIKs not sure what "flash" you crave, but proceed carefully until you get there.

A few suggestions that will help:

1. Premix all your solution at once. 3.5 g / 10 ml of water or saline is a good place to start.

2. Prefill your syringes. You won't blunt the tips trying to fill them when you get the shakes, and you won't be as tempted to load a "really fat shot" when you are gakked out.

3. Space out your shots. Every 30 minutes or so will give the coke in your system time to burn off, and you will get a better rush than if you do them one after another.

4. Remove tie after you register. Shoot half, wait 10 seconds, shoot the rest. If you get a way strong batch, the 10 second pause may save your life.

All the best. Be carefull; have fun.

FC

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[dkmonk]

swim would start out at .1 grams and go from there, swims g/f had a grand mal seizure from doin .3 grams iv'ed and when swim did .5 he had to control his breathing and move around a little bit because swim was scared if he diddnt that he wasnt going to be able to control himself

edit what is this flash you guys are talking about, swim has never experience this and has done a lot of quality coke, done so much swim heard converstions going on in my head and it sounded like there was and ocean in there too or a metellic fly going around but never a flash, dont know what you mean by that

[BoxStar]

No one can predict on what amount a particular person will overdose, however cocaine has a narrow therapeutic index due its local anesthetic effects on the heart and CNS which means that beyond a certain dose, approximately 250mg IV, the systemic local anesthetic effect becomes very dangerous and the danger increases dramatically above 400mg, this effect plus the hyperadrenergic state induced by cocaine is what causes life-threatening seizures, deadly cardiac arrhythmias and respiratory collapse; anyone can die of a heart attack or stroke with much lower doses (slamming coke can particularly cause a hemorrhagic stroke) there is no such thing as safe dose of cocaine, especially injected.

75mg of injected cocaine is a good dose for a non-tolerant user; 150mg is a high dose and is strongly advised not to go above that unless tolerance is present and the effects felt are reduced considerably.

Speedballing usually means to inject cocaine and heroin at the same time dissolved together in one syringe.

If SWIY slams enough coke to require a hospital there is a pretty large chance that SWIY will be unable to do anything about it, slamming cocaine can cause complete loss of consciousness in less than 30 seconds and death in 5 minutes, the symptoms of an stimulant overdose are pretty much universal if SWIY has gone too far on meth before he will probably recognize the symptoms, for cocaine is especially important to carefully measure the heartbeat; a very disorganized beat can be the only warning of a possible deadly cardiac arrhythmia like polymorphic ventricular tachycardia.

SWIM had that one a few times caused by overdoses ranging from 375mg to over 600mg, once he ended up being defibrillated wide awake because of his tolerance to benzos and his hyper stimulated state made the sedative given useless and SWIM was about go into fibrillation (heart rate was rapidly increasing), it was an experience SWIM cant forget; the worse overdose he ever had (around 650mg injected due a mix of unusually pure substance and being too fucked up to properly measure) literally killed him, he had a massive seizure within 15-20 seconds after injection lasting around 2-3 minutes and although it stopped and he was still breathing he did not regain consciousness; lucky for him paramedics were less than 5 minutes away, he went into ventricular fibrillation (cardiac arrest) in the ambulance (about 7-9 minutes after injection) and was “dead” for two minutes, lucky for him his heart restarted with a normal rhythm after the third shock; he left the hospital with no lasting “serious” damage 8 hours later, walking on his own and signing his release form to the astonishment of medical personal.

In SWIM opinion, SWIY drug use is reckless and may prove suicidal, SWIY must not care about his life whatsoever; SWIY is not worried about overdosing but doesn’t want to end in a hospital? No problem; SWIY will most likely end up in the morgue.

There is no point on doing drugs to end up overdosing, puking all over the place and potentially killing oneself, this is not preaching from the safe zone; SWIM has been there doing that for years and has meet people that had the same attitude as SWIY, the ones still alive now take life much more seriously after having seen its fragility but many are no longer among the living, having pointlessly faded away in a rush of terror; SWIM was there to see a girl overdose, by time SWIM noticed that something was wrong with her about two minutes after injection she could not speak and was partially paralyzed, SWIM called 911 right away but she died of a massive brain hemorrhage on the hospital; SWIM will always remembers her eyes, she was in the most overwhelming terror SWIM has ever seen in someone, not a nice way to go.

SWIY might think SWIM is an asshole but honestly he doesn’t care as he writes this for all the people who might be reading and could be considering following such a path; someone needs to speak the truth about what is like to slam coke, the risks and to advice that overdosing is not fun, not the way to do drugs and really unreasonable.

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[ctsracer06]

Swim had a overdose onetime on some pretty good Cola. Probably 60 to 75% pure, big chunck right of the brick. I bought a quarter ounce and could not stop myself, probably snorted 4 grams within 24hours with about 3, 3hour breaks, at the end of the night of all this I took two small key bumps and smoked two hits of pot, then it started. swim felt tingling in his arm and heart was racing, swim took cold bath to cool down his body temp and drank lots of water then but never drank much water before said events. This didnt work as my arm started to go numb, I called 911 and they sent the ambulance, when the got their my whole arm was numb to the point where if I would scratch it HARD i wouldnt feel it. When the paramedics got to my room to help me the left side of my face was starting to go numb along with my left arm. Luckily they i think pumped my stomach, im not sure. But swim survived, after he got home from the hospital he did a LONG FAT LINE OF COLA and never did it again after that.

[bugatti99]

SWIM would have (since SWIY has already done it) recommened not to try this. It was double the dose of the first. Maybe tried 100mg then maybe 125mg THEN maybe 150mg? That would much more safe and give SWIY a better idea on how much SWIY can handle before its too much too late. SWIM doesn't think he would/could have talked SWIY out of it but just trying to make sure you have thought about possible consequences before plunging in. If you were to have a real OD there would be little SWIY could do. Heart attack, stroke, convulsions, skipping heart beats. If its a serious OD, medical attention might not even make it in time. Trying to calm SWIY down and all that will help but it doesn't mean it will work. It is hard to say how much it would take to have a OD, since quality of the cocaine and SWIY tolerance and many factors come into play but SWIY will know if SWIY od'ing. Have someone there that is able to dial for medical attention is a must, dont try this alone. SWIM wouldn't count the meth OD as something to compare by, this could be much worse or much better. Just be safe of course if SWIY must try this again.

SWIM would consider himself lucky.

[xxdan123xx]

IF swiy were to od on coke swiy wouldn't even realize it before swiy were in the ambulance. (provided someone is there to call).. It hits like a truck and swiy will black out and start convulsing. Swim has seem 2 good friends have this happen...ONly one came back. Seriously it's a terrible way to go and swim watched his friend puking and convulsing so violently...It was terrible probably the most traumatic experience of swims life..